Mourinho on Martial after today's game

[donkeyfish]

Doesn't really matter what's being said. Win games or vanish.

To some extent everything that comes out of United right now will be responded to with anger, and the only way to change it are results.

 

[Red_toad]

But we've employed 3 managers with not wildly dissimilar philosophies on football, we've undoubtably upgraded the quality each time, but the fundamental concern of each is to prioritise making their team difficult to beat (ironically hasn't worked either) over attacking football, so we end up in this awkward juxtaposition of our teams not being coached or structured in attacking football but being too concerned with fan and pundit backlash to embrace to a fully defensive set up so commit fully to neither and end up in a limbo playing with no real intent.

I think the only way you can have success at clubs like Utd,Madrid,Barcelona and Liverpool is to actually embrace the attacking ethos of the clubs otherwise there is always a cloud hanging over the place which eventually becomes a storm.

Why'd you include Liverpool in that comment? What have they actually won in the since the 2012 League Cup?

 

[Red_toad]

He's an idiot. lukaku does feck all again yet he uses his post match time to dig out Martial who was the only player dropping deep trying to get on the ball/run at people and make things happen.

What exactly did he say that was a dig at Martial? He was asked about changes he made, he stated he'd made changes, which included bringing in Martial, not a single comment on his performance. But somehow this was a dig at him, yet not one single person can say how exactly it was a dig, yet the same lie gets repeated. Looks like some simply haven't bothered to watch his post match comment and are just repeating a load of sensationalised rubbish that simply wasn't there..

 

[rotherham_red]

This is much worse than Pogba's post-Wolves comments...

 

[ivaldo]

Again, watch it in context and it's a fine response to the line of questions. He doesn't slag either play off.

 

[Random Task]

Again, watch it in context and it's a fine response to the line of questions. He doesn't slag either play off.

Not directly, no, but the implication is blatantly obvious. He is suggesting that Martial was equally as bad as Sanchez has been all season long and we (the fans, the media and anyone else asking for Martial to replace Sanchez) were wrong and he was right. I honestly do not know how anyone could interpret Jose's latest statement any other way given he has previous for saying things like this.

 

[WR10]

If it wasn’t for Martials ball control and skill in his hold up play in the first 30-40 minutes, we would have been 4-0 down. He was our only player that had a) any desire b) any skill to actually play with the ball and unsettle west ham. feck off mourinho

 

[Sayros]

Not directly, no, but the implication is blatantly obvious. He is suggesting that Martial was equally as bad as Sanchez has been all season long and we (the fans, the media and anyone else asking for Martial to replace Sanchez) were wrong and he was right. I honestly do not know how anyone could interpret Jose's latest statement any other way given he has previous for saying things like this.

The same way people interpreted Pogba's comments as being selfish and not taking any responsibilities for his own performance; people will interpret anything with their bias.

 

[Kostur]

Well all we need to hear now is that Martial 'came on to defend' today.

 

[Cassidy]

He could have easily said "Look i gave Martial a chance today because he's been doing great and deserves it. I try to make sure i keep the rhythm of my players and Sanchez needed a rest so i gave Martial this chance and then maybe Snachez on Wednesday" A simple short reply rather than one that basically says "i do what you guys tell me since i can't be the manager anymore, i let you guys decide."He's certainly lost it. He doesn't even trust himself anymore. He sounds like a lower league manager testing the waters.

don't get me wrong I don't think he handled the question well at all. I was just saying I wasn't sure it was a dig at Martial. TBH more the media and fans.

 

[cj_sparky]

Again, watch it in context and it's a fine response to the line of questions. He doesn't slag either play off.

Post match he questioned Martial's focus on defensive duties and that playing him centrally as a second striker meant he only had to track Rice.

Whilst praising McTominay who wasn't great.

Jose has an agenda in everything he does.

 

[Sb_16]

Can't see anything wrong in that video. Your judgment is just getting clouded by your hate

If nothing else, it was a dig on the fans who have been saying Sanchez has been underwhelming.

 

[SCJY]

I really believe Lukaku is the problem. Yes, he does convert some chances, but I just don’t have any true confidence in him at all. And I think it’s quite evident in the players around him. He is no talisman. Drop him I say. What’s the worst that can happen?

This is the lineup I’d like to see:

—————Alexis—————
————————Rashford
————Pogba—————
Martial—————————
—————Matic—————
Shaw-Jones-Bailly-Valencia
—————De Gea————


Just drop Lukaku for a few games, please, for the love of God.

Edit: only 10 players. Shit, I left out Fred on the right.

 

[Kostur]

Post match he questioned Martial's focus on defensive duties and that playing him centrally as a second striker meant he only had to track Rice.

Whilst praising McTominay who wasn't great.

Jose has an agenda in everything he does.

Quite frankly McTominay was probably the best of our 'defenders' today plus he's played at least one splitting pass that led to a chance (Lukaku's post in the first half), something that cannot be said about Pogba, Matić or Fellaini. And it was McTominay who was supposed to be the shittest player of the all today, according to our friendly moaning fecks who also are agenda driven around here.

 

[JohnnyKills]

Not directly, no, but the implication is blatantly obvious. He is suggesting that Martial was equally as bad as Sanchez has been all season long and we (the fans, the media and anyone else asking for Martial to replace Sanchez) were wrong and he was right. I honestly do not know how anyone could interpret Jose's latest statement any other way given he has previous for saying things like this.

Yeah.

All that stuff he said in praise of the fans was just a sly attempt to get us onside. He clearly things we're idiots and yet his apologists lapped it up.

 

[Vato]

Mourinho always does this shit, he just can't help himself.

 

[Nuts]

Yes. That's Jose. Game gone bad - put the two players you are having trouble with in the limelight to take the blame.

This is classic divide and rule. Let the fans go at those players!

It’s cos he’s only got a Plan A. He sends them out with the same instructions every week and they’re not working. I’m sure behind the scenes he’s saying to the players ‘The plan I’m giving you is fine. If you were good enough it would work’.

All he can do his hang the players out in public as he’s no alternative to plan A.

 

[Shejkus]

José is trying to justify why Martial will be kept on the bench for the rest of the season. He would of never came with that statement if it was the other way around...

 

[Aloysius's Back 3]

It’s cos he’s only got a Plan A. He sends them out with the same instructions every week and they’re not working. I’m sure behind the scenes he’s saying to the players ‘The plan I’m giving you is fine. If you were good enough it would work’.

All he can do his hang the players out in public as he’s no alternative to plan A.

If you work hard enough*

 

[Sb_16]

Like anything Jose says, it's open to interpretation, but the message I got was yes, he was blaming Martial.

Also the fans, not necessarily Martial fans but also those who said Sanchez has been poor.

 

[Baxter]

It was obvious. The Pogba and Martial sub was a total ego trip.

He can defend it all he likes, but to then come out and say McTominay was great sums him up. A fecking child.

 

[golden_blunder]

Jose is a Chelsea sleeper agent

 

[Random Task]

Also the fans, not necessarily Martial fans but also those who said Sanchez has been poor.

Yeah, maybe.

Basically blaming everyone but himself as per usual. I guess no one told him that the buck stops with the manager.

 

[Shiva87]

It’s cos he’s only got a Plan A. He sends them out with the same instructions every week and they’re not working. I’m sure behind the scenes he’s saying to the players ‘The plan I’m giving you is fine. If you were good enough it would work’.

All he can do his hang the players out in public as he’s no alternative to plan A.

He was much better in the last two seasons. Sometimes I think he buys into his own 'third season meltdown' narrative!

 

[cj_sparky]

Quite frankly McTominay was probably the best of our 'defenders' today plus he's played at least one splitting pass that led to a chance (Lukaku's post in the first half), something that cannot be said about Pogba, Matić or Fellaini. And it was McTominay who was supposed to be the shittest player of the all today, according to our friendly moaning fecks who also are agenda driven around here.

I don't hate the lad. I don't think he has let us down when he has played, but I also don't think he is United quality. Whilst I would say he was actually excellent with the ball today, I felt poor defensively. He was deepest for the first goal (albeit offside) and not aware of Felipe Anderson's run for which Young was also culpable. He and Smalling where also equally as bad for the last goal.

Post match press conference. Jose was asked about tactics, he chose to speak about Martial initially and then quick to praise McTominay's passing, personality and attitude. The next question from a Journo was regarding the other players not having the right attitude. Everything he says and does has an agenda.

 

[K2K]

This is much worse than Pogba's post-Wolves comments...

It is.

Its not even the first time he has done something like this either.

 

[Kostur]

I don't hate the lad. I don't think he has let us down when he has played, but I also don't think he is United quality. Whilst I would say he was actually excellent with the ball today, I felt poor defensively. He was deepest for the first goal (albeit offside) and not aware of Felipe Anderson's run for which Young was also culpable. He and Smalling where also equally as bad for the last goal.

Post match press conference. Jose was asked about tactics, he chose to speak about Martial initially and then quick to praise McTominay's passing, personality and attitude. The next question from a Journo was regarding the other players not having the right attitude. Everything he says and does has an agenda.

Think it was Lindelof who was the deepest plus Zabaleta was in fact offside so blaming him for that is silly. Shaw hasn't tracked Zabaleta back either for the cross.

 

[Sb_16]

Jose is a Chelsea sleeper agent

You joke and it probably isn't true, but when he was signed, I had a faint suspicion of the same. A Chelsea legend coming to his then greatest domestic rival.

 

[kiristao]

I really believe Lukaku is the problem. Yes, he does convert some chances, but I just don’t have any true confidence in him at all. And I think it’s quite evident in the players around him. He is no talisman. Drop him I say. What’s the worst that can happen?

This is the lineup I’d like to see:

—————Alexis—————
————————Rashford
————Pogba—————
Martial—————————
—————Matic—————
Shaw-Jones-Bailly-Valencia
—————De Gea————


Just drop Lukaku for a few games, please, for the love of God.

We are piss poor with 11 men and you want to go with 10?

 

[JohnnyKills]

He was garbage - one little tricky dribble to get to the byline that as usual led to nothing. Mourinho still shouldn't be pulling this shit though.

What did anyone else produce though?

 

[limerickcitykid]

Not directly, no, but the implication is blatantly obvious. He is suggesting that Martial was equally as bad as Sanchez has been all season long and we (the fans, the media and anyone else asking for Martial to replace Sanchez) were wrong and he was right. I honestly do not know how anyone could interpret Jose's latest statement any other way given he has previous for saying things like this.

Or the implication is he's taking a dig at the media for now making a fuss about Sanchez getting dropped when they've been saying he should pick Martial. In line with all of his actions towards the media he is calling them out because they'll criticize him for making a decision they were criticizing him last week for not making. The line has nothing to do with saying the two are shit.

You can make up any implication you want.

 

[Aloysius's Back 3]

If anything - Sanchez & Martial should play upfront together and it should be Lukaku who is dropped. Oh well.

 

[Dumbat12]

He's not doing himself any favors with these statements. So arrogant and so pointless. He gains nothing by throwing his players under the bus.

You can put Messi himself in this team and he would underperform. When your tactics are so negative and defensive, and your only strategy is for your players to have a moment of brilliance to score a goal, there is so much anyone can do.

 

[Ballache]

So he publicly admits to playing a player due to outside pressure then uses that as an excuse...the guy is losing it.

 

[iluvoursolskjær]

Funny how when most of the times the collective team plays shite, Mou goes out of his way to name drop certain players to bring particular attention to them. While his little band of soldiers can literally cost us games and he'll be full of praise.

The difference in treatment from player to player is so blatant and something he's done from day dot. It's quite disgusting how natural it comes to him to throw anyone he doesn't fancy under the bus, turning people against them and skewing perceptions for his own personal agenda.

Then he has the audacity to play the victim and go all high and mighty when people stand up to it to protect themselves in public? feck off man. Prick level over 9000!!

 

[Steven Seagull]

Total prick. He’s well and truly lost the plot and has to go. Give him his money and try and learn something from this debacle

 

[Sb_16]

What exactly did he say that was a dig at Martial? He was asked about changes he made, he stated he'd made changes, which included bringing in Martial, not a single comment on his performance. But somehow this was a dig at him, yet not one single person can say how exactly it was a dig, yet the same lie gets repeated. Looks like some simply haven't bothered to watch his post match comment and are just repeating a load of sensationalised rubbish that simply wasn't there..

He was asked, if in hindsight he lacked attacking options. He had Mata and Rashford on the bench. He completely excluded his regulars today; Sanchez and Lingard. You are right the statement alone sound innocent.

However, consider the context, his past comments on Martial and the Sanchez-Martial conundrum, its easy to see how. In answering the question, he didn't need to bring up Martial and Sanchez only. He made two attacking subs and one of them scored. To me it was also a dig on the fans who consider Sanchez's performance as poor.

Jose has played a blinder in today's and yesterday's interviews. Was it a dig? If he starts Sanchez and benches Martial against Valencia then yes it was a dig since

• Martial performed better (not great though) than Sanchez has this season, regardless we lost
• By his own admission, he tried Martial today instead of Sanchez because "...for months people have said Sanchez has been poor"
• In the same interview, he said McTominay was the best CB today.

 

[steve zizou]

He was terrible. Kept running to where the defenders were instead of trying to get open and constantly tried to dribble through 3 defenders when he should have just passed the ball to someone who was open.

Name who

 

[starman]

If only this was about dropping Lukaku instead, maybe next game

 

[sunama]

Great, one step closer to a fan vote led team choice, we can get an app for it and everything. It will be great

Well, fan opinion does count for something.
If you have a fan's favourite player sitting on the bench, while the guy in his position is playing badly, I think it's a good thing to put on the fan favourite, to see what happens.