Mourinho on Martial after today's game

Would you like me to criticise mourinho?im more than willing. He’s fallen way short of where I thought he’d have us by now. He didn’t adapt for two years and now when it looks like he’s trying to freshen things up we’re probably too far gone. Some of his public comments have actually annoyed me although I don’t stockpile them to conflate them into some mythical agenda he has, and however bad he is , calling somebody a ‘vile pig’ is pathetic. If you want a chat about mourinho then by all means, I’ll have plenty to say from a critical stand point. But when did criticism mean calling somebody a vile pig, cancer, a disease, poison, and many more base slurs. It was the same under van gaal. And moyes. Some of the things these guys got called were disgusting. Posters can pretend all they want but it’s clear than unless they’re getting success there’s no level some won’t stoop to. Twice is a coincidence, three is a pattern. It just reeks of deep anger or hatred and we all know you can’t actually hate a person you’ve never met. I believe posters express something else when they stoop to that level. If you want to make a list of let’s say 50 sample posts and put them on the same post, with all of these pathetic insults, against any of our previous three managers, I think it degrades the entire forum. They’re genuinelynauseating and make the place look like a teenagers Facebook.
I agree with all that, although I think exceptions can be made for the likes of Trump, Kavanaugh, Bolsonaro, etc.
 
I think it is. He used the term, "base slurs" before. I think we might be in the presence of Frasier Crane.

I'm half expecting him to challenge someone to a duel over Mourinho's honour.

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No "supporter" has the right to say the words that we've seen towards mourinho in the past few days.

Calling him a vile pig and a cancer is absolutely not on. You don't need to be a "moral guardian" to fecking know that.
Haven't seen you complaining about the shit that's been thrown at Martial on here over the last few months.
 
He is openly crying for Ed to put him out of his misery.
I agree with this. He wants the sack and the massive payoff and from his point of view you cant blame him. For the teams sake he wont do the honourable thing and walk.
 
You're a fecking disgrace. Stick to criticising his choices and his interviews - there are many examples to pick from.

Refrain from personal attacks and grow up.
Oh the irony. Must be a Mourinho fanboy.
 
Oh the irony. Must be a Mourinho fanboy.

Nothing ironical. It was disgraceful.

My stance on the manager has nothing to do with it. You don't need to be a fanboy to be against calling someone a vile pig or a cancer.
 
Are we turning into Arsenal?? Fans turning on each other over the manager, poor performances on the pitch, general discontent with every decision made by the board/manager/player closest to the ball,
Fecking shambles.
People can have different opinions, be great if people respected that and agree that we all want what's best for the club...
By the way, Jose is using his usual deflection tactics in this instance.
 
Are we turning into Arsenal?? Fans turning on each other over the manager, poor performances on the pitch, general discontent with every decision made by the board/manager/player closest to the ball,
Fecking shambles.
People can have different opinions, be great if people respected that and agree that we all want what's best for the club...
By the way, Jose is using his usual deflection tactics in this instance.
No it's just like his last season at Chelsea. Just waiting for the full on revolt or woody takes action before that.
 
Are we turning into Arsenal?? Fans turning on each other over the manager, poor performances on the pitch, general discontent with every decision made by the board/manager/player closest to the ball,
Fecking shambles.
People can have different opinions, be great if people respected that and agree that we all want what's best for the club...
By the way, Jose is using his usual deflection tactics in this instance.

The most embarrassing thing in all this for me is seeing the state of 90% of our fan base. Spoilt wankers with zero football knowledge bar computer games, stats and social media influences.

Imagine being pretty much every other club in the world bar the current top 3-5. It’s football. Personal insults and it affecting your actual personal lives... FFS get a grip.
 
Martial says nothing, he doesn't go to the media and complain, he gets on with it, he tries to play when he comes on but then receives criticism like this, i'd be crushed as a young player. Especially after the world cup fiasco, how can you motivate yourself tow ant to play for him.
 
Nothing ironical. It was disgraceful.

My stance on the manager has nothing to do with it. You don't need to be a fanboy to be against calling someone a vile pig or a cancer.

It is ironic though. You tell her to refrain from personal attacks while in the same exact post calling her a "fecking disgrace" Just relax a little, why are you taking so much offense to people venting at Mourinho? Have you forgotten how he himself ridiculed us fans and the club with his phenomenal quotes during the embarrassing post match presser vs Sevilla? Face it the only one who is a disgrace is Mourinho.
 
Kind of makes me wonder what people think Jose should say. Like after yesterday's game....

I’d prefer if he said we weren’t good enough as a team rather than critising individual players. He did the same thing
Martial says nothing, he doesn't go to the media and complain, he gets on with it, he tries to play when he comes on but then receives criticism like this, i'd be crushed as a young player. Especially after the world cup fiasco, how can you motivate yourself tow ant to play for him.

Tend to agree. It seems to be Mourinho’s tactic to try to motivate players into proving him wrong. I’m not sure where he has picked this up from as it was never something he did 10 years ago.

For some players this type of tactic doesn’t work and I would suggest Martial is the type of guy that needs an arm round him. It was something Sir Alex was so good at understanding how to motivate a player. Mourinho’s strength in the past was his man management. The number of players that have come out from his Chelsea and Inter days saying they would walk through walls for him. I really believe modern day footballers don’t take criticism as well anymore and he hasn’t realised that yet. He then takes offence to them not responding and it becomes personal.

I read a great article about how Mourinho is a narcissist. I initially took it as yet another Mourinho bashing opinion piece but I am starting to believe it’s true. Some of his tactical approaches just seems to be a way of proving people he’s always right. The fans cry for attacking football now we start losing games. He made a point of subbing Pogba and Martial at the weekend. He then specifically states in his post match interview that fans wanted Martial to start and he didn’t perform. Everything he does at the moment feels like he fighting with someone be it with players, fans, the media, the board. He’s ironically always on the defence.
 
Just when I think Jose has lost it completely, he makes a Brady Bunch reference... and totally redeems himself!
 
You're a fecking disgrace. Stick to criticising his choices and his interviews - there are many examples to pick from.

Refrain from personal attacks and grow up.
reported for personal attacks
 
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Aw no, now you guys are just hurting my feelings. Ekkers, Jeppers, jungle drums and footy girl xo don’t like my posts. Pretty devastating. Really though you know it’s ok for people to have different opinions to you? It doesn’t mean they have the extreme opposite opinion and even if they did is that so upsetting? It’s not a threat to you. You’re all big boys and footy girls Im sure you can cope. Sorry if telling her making a post calling the manager (or any united staff) a vile pig is a bit of a shit post, but you guys are all being good frasier cranes and defending her honour.

As you were.

*garde
 
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There are Manchester united supporters who have never been within 50 miles of Old Trafford who are just as fanatical as someone who has a season ticket . They are just as entitled to be unhappy with the current management as the rest of us . If they want to vent let them vent in whatever way that they want to , you are not their or anyone else moral guardian .

I’m not trying to be. I have no clue what being within 50 miles of the stadium has to do with anything , perhaps youre in the wrong thread? But if this site is just a place for people to ‘vent’ then no wonder it’s saturdated with such bile. Quite telling when randomly calling the manager (couldn’t care who the manager is) a vile pig is fair game, but suggesting that’s a rubbish post and calling it out as such is so offensive.
 
It is ironic though. You tell her to refrain from personal attacks while in the same exact post calling her a "fecking disgrace" Just relax a little, why are you taking so much offense to people venting at Mourinho? Have you forgotten how he himself ridiculed us fans and the club with his phenomenal quotes during the embarrassing post match presser vs Sevilla? Face it the only one who is a disgrace is Mourinho.
People seem to have swept that post-Sevilla tirade under the carpet, I guess he threw so many folks under the bus everyone went to Rekall
 
Aw no, now you guys are just hurting my feelings. Ekkers, Jeppers, jungle drums and footy girl xo don’t like my posts. Pretty devastating. Really though you know it’s ok for people to have different opinions to you? It doesn’t mean they have the extreme opposite opinion and even if they did is that so upsetting? It’s not a threat to you. You’re all big boys and footy girls Im sure you can cope. Sorry if telling her making a post calling the manager (or any united staff) a vile pig is a bit of a shit post, but you guys are all being good frasier cranes and defending her honour.

As you were.

*garde

It’s not different to you defending the fair maiden Mourinho’s honor in here by being overly aggressive. Don’t worry love, one day he’ll adore you like you adore him.
 
It’s not different to you defending the fair maiden Mourinho’s honor in here by being overly aggressive. Don’t worry love, one day he’ll adore you like you adore him.

I don't adore mourinho. Think you have me mixed up maybe? In fact id say ive been critical of him. Regards defending honor, i was responding to another poster who said vaguely the same as you, so youre kind of going round in circles. But thanks for the love, its appreciated
 
Nothing ironical. It was disgraceful.

My stance on the manager has nothing to do with it. You don't need to be a fanboy to be against calling someone a vile pig or a cancer.
LOL how is it not ironic? You behave just like your idol Mourinho, banging on about not calling names while calling the person you replied to a fecking disgrace, just like Mourinho moaning on and on about "respect" while insulting and denigrating other people every chance he gets.
 
Tend to agree. It seems to be Mourinho’s tactic to try to motivate players into proving him wrong. I’m not sure where he has picked this up from as it was never something he did 10 years ago.
No it's not. It's something invented by Mourinho fanboys here trying to justify Mourinho acting like a prick.
 
Just watched the full post match presser and tbh I’m kinda surprised. Based on what some have been saying here and on fan channels I was fully expecting to be incensed by Mourinho throwing Martial under the bus in an attempt to deflect from the performance. But I don’t think that’s what happened.

He was asked why he played a back 3 so he brings up Martial. He says he doesn’t think he’s too focused on defending so he played him up top, where he’d only have to cover Declan Rice. But of course that meant he needed an extra man in defence to cover those duties. You can tell by his tone that it’s all very matter of fact. Not at all like when he did throw him and rashford under the bus by effectively saying - see that’s why I play Lukaku instead of them, in an exercise of I’m better than you.

Jose has many faults. He has a huge ego. He’s extremely stubborn. And he can be very snipey when he feels people are questioning his decision. But right now I think things are being spun because people sense blood.

Same as the training ground incident. I just watched that with the actual words that were said and it’s not nearly as bad as made out. Yes he shoulda done it behind doors but it’s not his style. He’s fighting a battle and he’s trying to reassert himself. Cos you can’t have a player challenging ur authority.

Nothing about Mourinho suited United, except that he’s a winner. And it was gonna be nice having people hate us again. But he’s walked into a club that clearly isn’t bothered about winning. Meanwhile his arch enemy up the road is being treated like some kind of Demigod, while being given everything he wants, like a spoiled baby.

Man it must suck being José right now. Almost as much as the football.
 
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It is ironic though. You tell her to refrain from personal attacks while in the same exact post calling her a "fecking disgrace" Just relax a little, why are you taking so much offense to people venting at Mourinho? Have you forgotten how he himself ridiculed us fans and the club with his phenomenal quotes during the embarrassing post match presser vs Sevilla? Face it the only one who is a disgrace is Mourinho.

Not at all.
Repeatedly calling Jose a vile pig is just not on. If he crticisises players then give him the right level of criticism. Say its disgraceful in fact. Don't fecking go out and call him a vile pig and take it to a next level.

It's a joke. Like most of her posts.
 
Jose is toxic. He is a narcissist, he won feck all big recently and has been sacked from his previous teams twice because of his selfish, idiotic character. He is about to be sacked for the same reason for the third time in a row. The players he bought and pissed the club's money on are playing poorly. It does not suck to be Jose now, in fact the fecker is going to be paid a dozen million of quid for failing spectacularly in his job. What it does sack now is to be a fan. Thank God we are Man Utd fans not Jose Mourinho's.
 
Aw no, now you guys are just hurting my feelings. Ekkers, Jeppers, jungle drums and footy girl xo don’t like my posts. Pretty devastating. Really though you know it’s ok for people to have different opinions to you? It doesn’t mean they have the extreme opposite opinion and even if they did is that so upsetting? It’s not a threat to you. You’re all big boys and footy girls Im sure you can cope. Sorry if telling her making a post calling the manager (or any united staff) a vile pig is a bit of a shit post, but you guys are all being good frasier cranes and defending her honour.

As you were.

*garde

Sorry, I wasn't defending anyone....I was just wondering if your post was actually genuine.
 
Just another example of Jose throwing his players under the same bus he plays with. Nothing new. And it will happen again, as long as his reputation is preserved.

You must be able to cut the atmosphere at training with a knife.
 
Sorry, I wasn't defending anyone....I was just wondering if your post was actually genuine.

Yeah i replied to you. As you did with your pal in the hilarious little anecdote. To clarify again my post was genuine, i think calling a united player or staff member a vile pig while getting emotional about your own interpretation rather than any fact is dreadful posting.