No, they all get scrutinised. Jose more because of his track record when it comes to fall outs.
Mourinho not happy with transfer window - Exclusive interview with Ogden
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What? So he's not allowed to be upset because he has fallen out with clubs who are notorious for that kind of activity?
He shouldn't be doing it publicly, no.
What he said was hardly revolutionary. He was asked a question and he answered it. In fact he even went on to say that he doesn't blame anyone and he understands that the market is difficult.
He's been around long enough to know what headlines his answers will bring. This is hardly a naive young manager being tricked in to criticising the board.
All the teams in the EPL have so much money and others know that..
Once again, where did he criticise the board? He blatantly said that he didn't blame anyone. So we have to begin judging articles by purely their headlines, just to have a stick to beat him with, rather than you know, actually paying attention to the interview/article?
Yes. It's a bit hard to claim we're tight for cash when a decent right back is going for around £50m
If you think a manager can claim they aren't getting what they want, without this being a criticism of those controlling the purse strings, then we're probably at a loss when it comes to any potential agreement here.
Trust me, that's all I'm hoping it is
Hopefully. It would be worse if Perisic was the third and the fourth, a midfielder, was even harder to get.
how do we know matic and dier were the targets? the press? cmon man we don't know shit until we see some goon holding a united shirt with a daft grin on his face.
He's being diplomatic there.
He's saying he doesn't blame anyone, but he wouldn't keep bringing up how long ago he decided what players he wanted, if he didn't blame someone for not signing them, or at least communicating to him that that dooing so wasn't possible.
It's also difficult to understand why the club has managed to drag it's feet for so long. Players have asking prices and you either meet them or you don't. That was clearly the case with Lukaku. It was clearly the case with Morata, so feck knows what the club were playing at there. It seems apparent it is the case with Perisic. If the money isn't there or the club deem the asking price to been too high, this should have been communicated to Jose a long time ago now so a decision could be made, and from what he keeps saying, repeatedly, it seems pretty apparent that it hasn't been. Either that or he's been pointlessly dishonest.
Suspect the main reason for him being diplomatic is that for the moment he cares about keeping his job.
He's saying he doesn't blame anyone, but he wouldn't keep bringing up how long ago he decided what players he wanted, if he didn't blame someone for not signing them, or at least communicating to him that that dooing so wasn't possible.
It's also difficult to understand why the club has managed to drag it's feet for so long. Players have asking prices and you either meet them or you don't. That was clearly the case with Lukaku. It was clearly the case with Morata, so feck knows what the club were playing at there. It seems apparent it is the case with Perisic. If the money isn't there or the club deem the asking price to been too high, this should have been communicated to Jose a long time ago now so a decision could be made, and from what he keeps saying, repeatedly, it seems pretty apparent that it hasn't been. Either that or he's been pointlessly dishonest.
Suspect the main reason for him being diplomatic is that for the moment he cares about keeping his job.
Manchester 'feck about' United.
I'd imagine most managers spare perhaps Vinny Montella at Milan are annoyed by this window. Prices have suddenly surged by 50% and most clubs aren't landing their preferred targets.
As for Mourinho, it all went a bit off course when Griezmann decided to stay and Madrid decided to muck about with Morata. You can't always get what you want.
As for Mourinho, it all went a bit off course when Griezmann decided to stay and Madrid decided to muck about with Morata. You can't always get what you want.
Chelsea have agreed a fee for Morata that's less than what we paid for Lukaku. That simply makes it impossible that there hasn't been a degree of pointless fecking about on United's part. Both of these players had prices. It took us most of the summer and Mourinho having to whine to a journalist for us to pay for the one with the higher price. Makes no sense whatever way you try and piece it together.
We're resigning Lukaku
Can't believe no one got there before me.
Left sided player we need you say? Good crosser of the ball you say? His name being Lukaku you say?
I got this:
It's completely possible to be upset but understand the conditions though. But aye, doesn't seem we will come to an agreement so I digress.
The big clubs nowadays, including us, just seem to buy whoevers in fashion.
Of course it's going to be hard to attract those sort of players from the biggest clubs without paying an arm and a leg - employ better scouts like we used to have that bring in the relatively un-heard of players that turn out to be class. I find those signings much more exciting, like hopefully Lindelof and Bailly.
Of course it's going to be hard to attract those sort of players from the biggest clubs without paying an arm and a leg - employ better scouts like we used to have that bring in the relatively un-heard of players that turn out to be class. I find those signings much more exciting, like hopefully Lindelof and Bailly.
You got that right. The market was waiting for that big move to get going. If he had joined us for 75 mil, I can't imagine we'd see wing backs and bench warming strikers (good as they may be) being touted for those prices.
Pretty much sums it up.
Yeah, it sums up Perišić.
Just hope there's a winger (Perišić) there, instead of the defensive midfielder.
I think thread title is misleading. It's more about not being satisfied than being unhappy.
I'm hoping it's the other way. We need a DM to get the most out of our best player Pogba.
A.Pereira is that guy, I'm hoping.
I'm not sure if Jose is either giving up on Perisic and focusing on a DM signing, or if he's viewing Andreas Pereira as "almost like a signing" given that he's been playing him in DM in the pre-season games, and he'll move on to another wing target instead.
Wouldn't mind that, kid looks talented. Only problem could be putting all your faith in someone with still very little experience. I guess that's where the coaches and manager earn their money though.
He didn't criticize the board. All he did was establish a potential narrative to point to if his season doesn't go according to plan.
Jose is the one who picked players from clubs that it is difficult to buy from. He also made his list long ago before actually seeing who was on the market and hasn't adjusted accordingly. Instead he left it all up to Ed while he took a vacation. Meanwhile the likes of Kessie and Fabinho who both expressed willingness to join us were overlooked. Players like James, Semedo, Silva were all buyable and in the end bought or loaned by other top clubs--quality players available pn the market while we rigidly stick to Perisic or nothing based on an old list. Even if we do get Matic and Perisic it is still a team that has barely improved and will still struggle to challenge for the title and is too lightweight for the CL.
This must be what they call fan fiction.
Only 3 signings would be a downer, but if Andreas can step up and share the load, filling in for Pogba and/or Herrera when they are tired or injured, we should focus on signing a winger. More goals needed to even assure a top 4 finish.
We need a dm more then we need a winger.
Can andreas play as a dm? Else we risk relying on a former player (carrick) and a no 10 (failini) as dm again
Neither scenario is ideal but no goals = 6th place for sure again. Getting a winger and forsaking a DM is the lesser of 2 evils.
I trust Jose's tactics to work around the DM problem as setting up a defense is his strength. But we need an additional goal-threat as well as a huge improvement from Mkhi and Martial to compete with the other teams.
We got martial, mkhitaryan,mata,pogba, lukaku and rashford to create chances/score them. Andreas has returned from loan and in january we will also add ibra to the mix
The only 2 dms we have are former player carrick and failini
Cant blame Jose, the window has been shocking. I think a lot of people on here have forgotten just how poor we were in attack last season, with only really Ibra contributing, Now he is gone (or at least until Jan), and so farwe have signed only Lukaku. We need another striker, a winger, CDM and a LB
We will be milling around fighting for 4th this season
We will be milling around fighting for 4th this season
Clearly it is a negotiation tactic to get Inter to lower the price for him. I think jose by saying this has basically said, lower the price or we dont sign him. It will make perisic more annoyed with inter, he is unsettling him and also laying down a message for rest of the window that Just because we are man utd we arent going to pay over the odds for players who are not world class.
The window is difficult. I guess he meant
(a) Why the hell GriezON became GriezOFF? Nobody expected that.
(b) Too much money in the market = Average players cost a fortune.
Is Mou ever asked if there are any players leaving the club, by the way?
(a) Why the hell GriezON became GriezOFF? Nobody expected that.
(b) Too much money in the market = Average players cost a fortune.
Is Mou ever asked if there are any players leaving the club, by the way?
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