Mourinho not happy with transfer window - Exclusive interview with Ogden

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I'm not gonna blame Ed or Jose tbh.

Jose has put his list since March as he said and sure he puts multiple targets for each position. Media reporting them or not doesn't matter as what we saw in Lukaku's deal. Even if we consider the players we're linked to, it doesn't look like Messi or Ronaldo. They seem reasonable choices on paper before approaching their clubs. Players like Perisic, Morata, Lindelof or somethings like that are hardly difficult choices when you look at them. Even Griezmann isn't considered that hard tbh except for that transfer ban. I can't see anything unrealistic in this list. We're not chasing Bale or Neymar!

Ed on the same time is struggling to cope with the price demand the clubs we approaches are asking, and it was pretty unpredictable tbh that Inter for example will ask such a price for a player like Perisic, or Madrid asking 80m for a sub. He doesn't want to get involved in a deals that cost much more than the expected and he's willing to pay only in the players that deserve as what we did in Lukaku. He tried to negotiate for Morata and Perisic to get them at reasonable price and in vain. Not working on other targets ? Why we know that ? Just because the media knows nothing ? The media has proved multiple times it knows feck all and we can be working on any player without the news reaching the media. IMO people are giving what media is saying much more than what it deserves.

Ed will deliver and I'm sure of that.
 
AshRK said:
Exactly. To just hope all this would work is a bit lame. Also, it's quite surprising we have not moved on to other targets. It is clear he never wanted james, same with fabinho it seems. Maybe jose this time is very choosy, which can be good if he gets his player but he has to move on to other targets.
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If his list truly had Dier/Matic he is one optimistic motherfecker, I don't rate either that much but even if they both lost their places their clubs will make them unavailable just because it is us who wanted them. The race for CL footie is so tight that no club within the CL equation would dare strengthen a rival even if its for feck you money.
I appreciate the importance of established PL players but competition and the money flying around in the PL make it impossible to get a reasonable deal for a good player.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
I think we should be more aghast that Romelu Lukaku is anywhere near a world record fee.
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He's young and banging them in, what's not to like here? :nervous: You see the likes of de Bruyne or Pogba going for the big bucks, why should Lukaku be excluded from that list?

I'm looking forward to seeing the mentioned 65 mio. Euros for Morata go up a bit, the number has to be made up, IMO.
 
Mourinhonista said:
He's young and banging them in, what's not to like here? :nervous: You see the likes of de Bruyne or Pogba going for the big bucks, why should Lukaku be excluded from that list?

I'm looking forward to seeing the mentioned 65 mio. Euros for Morata go up a bit, the number has to be made up, IMO.
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KDB is a better player at what he does than Lukaku. You pay a world record fee for a Lewandowski.
 
Nate Dogg said:
I'm slightly worried that we haven't strengthened in the key areas of our squad, we need a CDM not only to replace Carrick but it is an area we desperately need depth and quality. Furthermore, cover is required for Valencia and possibly in the LB postiom with Shaw being injured.

We also need a winger that can cross and finally and even another striker but i guess the backup striker will be Zlatan when he returns end of the year.
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I think Mou is planning to utilize TFM as the back up for Valencia. Plus Darmian can always switch to the right if required. On the LB, we have Shaw, Rojo and Blind (and Young, Darmian). None of them are the best RB/LB a team can have but there aren't any of these excellent RB/LB in the market anyway.

Finding a replacement for Carrick is like replacing Obamacare - just won't happen :lol:
 
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It has been an absolutely ridiculous Summer in truth. I was one of the few people saying we only needed 3 signings in thr first place but even then my primary concern was someone who would score 20 goals from a supporting role (with Griezmann being the obvious candidate). The biggest problem of last season was too much pressure on one goalscorer, meaning the 1 in 3 games he couldn't hit a barn door we'd invariably drop points. That problem is still clearly there irrespective if our attacking targets are to be believed (unless Martial has an epipahny).

However I look at the market now and think we'd almost be better of waiting until either January or next Summer for someone like Griezmann or Sanchez, rather than invest £75m on a 4 year deal for someone like Perisic.

Likewise in the defensive midfield role I can't see anyone available for anything less than a ludicrous fee that would have a huge effect on the team.

I would like to see us be a bit more creative in the transfer market though. If Matic, Dier and Fabinho are unrealistic for various reasons; I'd like to see someone who is easy to attain, doesn't come at a ridiculous fee and if it didn't work out wouldn't be lynched by the fans.

Just because the market is crazy doesn't mean there isn't players like Evra, Vidic, Alli out there. Hell for all I know the likes of Pereira, TFM or Tuanzebe might be those players.
 
Why would he be happy? As things stand, we've bought a centre forward at the very top of the market, who's arguably no better than the one we've lost/who's out until the new year and a young centre half who's probably going to need time. I'm not sure those two signings do a massive amount to change last season's sixth place into first or second this time around. Bottom line, Mourinho will be held responsible for the results, so he's bound to be a bit arsey if he's still nowhere near having a squad he's happy with three windows in.

All that said, I'd be amazed if we don't sign three players for big money by the end of the window, so that should perk him up a bit.
 
If we sign no more players which is conceivable it surely means the younger players like Pereira TFM and Tuanzebe Etc . Will get more time ? I would really like that actually . Don't get me wrong I think we need more fire power but there are upsides to having young players hungry for success playing on a more regular basis in the long term.
 
I'd be surprised if anyone was happy with the way this summer has gone so far. In my opinion the squad isn't any stronger than what it was last season and given how we struggled to cope with the amount of games, I fear the squad will once again get tested and struggle this.
 
Kill 'em all said:
"What I will say is that, a long time ago, we thought about four players to strengthen our squad, but it is really hard to do it. If we do the third and forget the fourth, I would be quite happy with that because I know it is difficult."

"Everton started really strong in the market without the Lukaku money," Mourinho said. "AC Milan, without selling players, are buying nonstop, so it depends on the moment, the objective, maybe on new owners."

Those parts really says a lot. Almost putting all the blame on the person responsible for transfers or the owners. 'I did my part but you didn't do yours'
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Not really

"What I can also say is that it is a difficult transfer window, and I don't blame anyone -- it is just a reality of things
 
dove said:
Hardly a surprise. I don't think we improved much with our 2 signings so far. Lukaku replaces Ibra and Lindelof is a defender so he won't solve our biggest problem from last season. If we don't sign a good winger and DM, we will have exactly the same problems scoring goals as last season.
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Definitely, we haven't done enough to sort our goal scoring problems.
 
All the more reason to give the youth players a chance and see if you can grow them organically again a la Lingard, Pereira, Rashford. But the big difference makers that Jose sees are not currently at the club or need to step up in big ways (hi Tony Martial)
 
Didn't he say, at the end of the season that he had already identified his targets 2 months(IIRC) prior to that? We got CL football and we already on preseason, surely somewhere along the lines someone is not doing their bit. We have cleared up massive wages and we evidently have the revenue to spend. The whole Griezmann sage took a twist, i get that , but that was one target, what about the other three?

If I come across as negative or whiney, I apologise, but why do we take this long to sort our transfers out and I know media add fuel but it seems like we do drag things out.Would we not have preferred to let our new signings get some preseason minutes under their belt with the squad and allow them time to settle in. If said target was unavailable or their club played hardball, we should have alternatives in mind? We badly need a CDM midfielder and another forward whether or not Zlatan stays on (which is in December, optimistically).1 or 2 injuries and we are looking somewhat lean up front again.
 
Mourinhonista said:
He's young and banging them in, what's not to like here? :nervous: You see the likes of de Bruyne or Pogba going for the big bucks, why should Lukaku be excluded from that list?

I'm looking forward to seeing the mentioned 65 mio. Euros for Morata go up a bit, the number has to be made up, IMO.
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The figure appears to be 97m euros.
 
Ali Dia said:
Who's this marquee signing then? That's off again is it? Following United during the close season is exhausting! Fake news every day : /
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was meant to be Griezman

thats the 4th player jose talks about in my opinion saying he would be happy with 3 but wanted 4
 
If there's one person I trust at United, it's Ed. He's been the one constant shining light for the last four years. The man will do his best but a club and manager of our stature should be able to draw up a list of options for players.
 
dichinero said:
If there's one person I trust at United, it's Ed. He's been the one constant shining light for the last four years. The man will do his best but a club and manager of our stature should be able to draw up a list of options for players.
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You're posting under the assumption he hasn't. No manager would give a list with one option. He provided him a list which I guarantee had multiple options for each. (Look at Morata and Lukaku, Belotti was also an option it looked like). It's not Jose's fault, but I won't place the blame on Ed's feet either. It's a difficult window, prices are ridiculous and clubs don't want to sell their players.
 
We aren't the only ones with a hard time in the transfer market though. Liverpool can't sign anyone, Chelsea hasn't done any sensational deals so far either and Tottenham isn't even trying it seems. Okay City seems to have done reasonably well so far but they also didn't bring in the players that would me immediately make me shit my pants and think they are guaranteed champions next year.
 
NoLogo said:
We aren't the only ones with a hard time in the transfer market though. Liverpool can't sign anyone, Chelsea hasn't done any sensational deals so far either and Tottenham isn't even trying it seems. Okay City seems to have done reasonably well so far but they also didn't bring in the players that would me immediately make me shit my pants and think they are guaranteed champions next year.
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The financial capability and current status of the squads also matter. We have the need and means to reinforce our squad substantially with 4-6 signings. One can compare to how Citeh are going about it

I expected us to do better than we have done so far this window, and using Griezmann as an excuse is simply being delusional.

Either our scouting and/or negotiation needs to improve going forward, otherwise we will struggle to assemble a squad that can compete with the very best.
 
I said it the other week this window has been poor. We have only signed two players that is not enough if we want to be competing for the league if we had signed out CDM before the tour started then this window would have been a good one. The LW we wanted to sign in my opinion is the only position we should be taking our time in so we get that player that will make our front line click.
 
Womp said:
You're posting under the assumption he hasn't. No manager would give a list with one option. He provided him a list which I guarantee had multiple options for each. (Look at Morata and Lukaku, Belotti was also an option it looked like). It's not Jose's fault, but I won't place the blame on Ed's feet either. It's a difficult window, prices are ridiculous and clubs don't want to sell their players.
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I'm not saying he hasn't but it doesn't look like he gave Ed many options either, which is understandable given that the manager may just be very specific but maybe too specific to put all his eggs into one basket is not the wisest thing. Take the Lukaku and Lindelof deal, there is evidence to suggest that Ed had been on the job for months now, even though they may not have been the first choices, he got the job done. For the sake of argument, the Perisic deals like an all eggs in one basket kinda thing to me. I should suspect that dealing with a club in the same league like Everton, and Benfica who seek to make the most in transfer dealings would be more difficult than an Inter side who finished 7th, are not in Europe and are poor. Ed is making the sensible economic decision and not get bent over unnecessarily and IF there is another option it makes sense to move on.
 
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Everyone is struggling in the market because of there is literally no value. £40m gets you a squad player these days. That fee for Walker is utterly insane. The money for Keita is stupidly ridiculous and the Perisic fee is also incredibly expensive. Don't even get me started on the Morata fee.
 
Mourinhonista said:
He's young and banging them in, what's not to like here? :nervous: You see the likes of de Bruyne or Pogba going for the big bucks, why should Lukaku be excluded from that list?

I'm looking forward to seeing the mentioned 65 mio. Euros for Morata go up a bit, the number has to be made up, IMO.
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I think if we'd signed Morata the fee would be reported as being around the Pogba fee.
 
This is a window where 40m+ has been rejected for fecking Sigurdsson.
I am hopeful we still bring in players but I'm not keeping my hopes up.
 
Adisa said:
This is a window where 40m+ has been rejected for fecking Sigurdsson.
I am hopeful we still bring in players but I'm not keeping my hopes up.
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The same thing happened with Troy Deeney last summer. This summer is no different to previous summers.
 
dichinero said:
I'm not saying he hasn't but it doesn't look like he gave Ed many options either, which is understandable given that the manager may just be very specific but maybe too specific to put all his eggs into one basket is not the wisest thing. Take the Lukaku and Pinewood deal, there is evidence to suggest that Ed had been on the job for months now, even though they may not have been the first choices, he got the job done. For the sake of argument, the Perisic deals like an all eggs in one basket kinda thing to me. I should suspect that dealing with a club in the same league like Everton, and Genetics who seek to make the most in transfer dealings would be more difficult than an Inter side who finished 7th, are not in Europe and are poor. Ed is making the sensible economic decision and not get bent over unnecessarily and IF there is another option it makes sense to move on.
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Maybe, but just because we aren't heavily linked to a player doesn't mean we aren't working on some other deals. Lukaku came out of nowhere when it looked like Morata was done.
 
Guys, if you look at what we got, we actually didn't get anything new from the last season. Just back up for two spots of players that are injured at the moment (ibra and rojo), so i can't see how Mourinho's strategy works. Looks like he's putting his belive in that everyone will have a better season and score more goals...
 
He always does this.

Job's on the line, this year, so we all need to know it's not his fault if it doesn't come off.
 
I do think we need to reinforce in CM and attacking areas. And, we will get some this summer.

But regardless of how the window goes, he still has a squad to manage and get something decent out of it to get in top 4 next season. He will still be expected to deliver it at the very least. I doubt any of us are expecting to win the title or play 38 games of finals against Barca/Madrid.

We just lacked an extra tiny edge to win so many games last season. At least a lot of people said so. So the squad can't be so shit.
 
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chicha14 said:
Didn't he say, at the end of the season that he had already identified his targets 2 months(IIRC) prior to that? We got CL football and we already on preseason, surely somewhere along the lines someone is not doing their bit. We have cleared up massive wages and we evidently have the revenue to spend. The whole Griezmann sage took a twist, i get that , but that was one target, what about the other three?

If I come across as negative or whiney, I apologise, but why do we take this long to sort our transfers out and I know media add fuel but it seems like we do drag things out.Would we not have preferred to let our new signings get some preseason minutes under their belt with the squad and allow them time to settle in. If said target was unavailable or their club played hardball, we should have alternatives in mind? We badly need a CDM midfielder and another forward whether or not Zlatan stays on (which is in December, optimistically).1 or 2 injuries and we are looking somewhat lean up front again.
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I believe there have been lot of other factors too for our dull summer. Athletico's ban , inter decides to being a j*rk, Perez decides to be a j*rk. Other clubs charging inflated amounts when we try to buy. I think woody and jose thought buyingngriezmann, perisic, morata, lindelof and even dier wont be that tough, maybe the latter but rest were all attainable targets but circumstances made it tougher.

This is why I said jose should have planned better and have other alternatives ready. Maybe he has other alternatives but he is still playing the waiting game. I still think perisic will come , it's the 4th player which will be to see who will that be.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
He always does this.

Job's on the line, this year, so we all need to know it's not his fault if it doesn't come off.
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Or he's just frustrated that he might not get what he wants to compete? Any manager would be frustrated. Everything is turned as a negative to Jose when he does it, but when basically every other manager in football would complain (just as Conte did, who had a team that walked the league ffs), it's completely normal.

Also his job is on the line every year. If he doesn't perform he goes, but not getting the manager his targets makes things just that little bit more difficult. Not that it's Ed's fault or anything.
 
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