Reminded me a quote from one of my favorite movies, Christmas Vacation.
"Get me someone. Anyone. And Get me someone while I'm waiting."
Mourinho not happy with transfer window - Exclusive interview with Ogden
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Reminded me a quote from one of my favorite movies, Christmas Vacation.
"Get me someone. Anyone. And Get me someone while I'm waiting."
Most transfers nowadays become public way ahead of time via social media
Not doubting that, all i am saying is that you can't solely rely on transfer gossip to determine how active we are. We're not as open with the press any more.
I don't want Perisic though. It is bloody depressing to read about the club chasing him relentlessly as though he is Neymar.
A DM that can function as a dlp would.
And it would free up Pogba to do it more frequently.
I wish I had your optimism. I think your predictions are quite fanciful.
Is refusing to go anywhere near the clubs asking price the definition of "chasing him relentlessly as though he is Neymar" now then?
My definition, would be the reluctance, or the refusal to walk away and go for an alternative target.
Inter's latest comments suggest that we have done just that. We haven't made a bid for weeks and they have been the ones coming out with comments on how we should "make a bid if we want him" and "pay the asking price to sign him".
It sounds very much to me like we have either:
1. Bid up to what we will pay and have walked away and Inter are now trying to get our attention again
2. We are stringing them along with enquiries to keep public our interest as it provides us a way of saying to another club about another player "we have an option to fall back on if you start taking the piss with your asking price".
I wish I had your optimism. I think your predictions are quite fanciful.
Lets play a fun game - in the Premier League how many goals would you attribute to those 4? If you want to add Mkhitaryan & Mata be my first.
My view:
Lukaku - 28
Rashford - 10
Martial - 11
Pogba - 8
Mata - 8
Mkhitaryan - 8
The play seems pretty similar too last night(second half I only saw).
United have like the highest revenue in world football, over 500mill a year, we can afford virtually any price & match everything City do if we wanted, and be comfortably within FFP rules
Is it safe to say squeeky bum time has kicked in with regards to our transfers ?
Mouriniho will be pissed off we haven't sorted them in time for tour but there's still ages ago until the actual deadline. We will strengthen the key positions by then I'm sure.
But we are a PLC and we have shareholders to consider and a value of the club that needs to be maintained. Our revenue is the best but that doesn't mean we have an open cheque book like City or PSG have. We can compete for any individual and offer them wages and transfer fees, except this Neymar deal which I'm sure the club wouldn't be able to justify.
However, throwing upwards of £250m in one window on multiple players like City look like doing is not possible for Utd.
£250m is certainly doable. We spent about £200m in 2014.
Still more than a month to go. No top team is done with their signings.
Not even Spurs?
Everton are making 45 million bids for Siggurdson after signing 7 players and we cant sign 4. City have made The best window so far and chelsea's is getting better and better, Arsenal have kept ozil and may keep Sanchez (or he goes to city either way bad for us) All of our top 4 rivals plus everton improving significantly while we make our world class manager wait for signings just for a chance that we may get them cheaper.
We are losing ground and mourinho is absolutely right to be pissed about this. Woodward will need to get the two signings as this time any faliure in the season will be blamed on him. Need three more players but 2 would get us in the fight for top 4, We need to spend money and not haggle for small details, city have wanted players and got them. We need to stop labouring and get things done quickly.
We are losing ground and mourinho is absolutely right to be pissed about this. Woodward will need to get the two signings as this time any faliure in the season will be blamed on him. Need three more players but 2 would get us in the fight for top 4, We need to spend money and not haggle for small details, city have wanted players and got them. We need to stop labouring and get things done quickly.
That really was a one off though after a number of years of not spending at all. Ed was determined to land a few big names and we desperately needed investment in a rather ageing and poor squad. In fact it was a net spend of around £140m so nowhere near £200m!
I don't think we'll see a net spend anywhere near that again, hence why we are baulking at some of the asking prices for the likes of Matic, Dier and Perisic. If we were truly cash rich we would get the business done and make a statement that we can compete with City this summer.
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I know every manager wants their signings now, but the prices are at a premium atm. Towards the end of the window there will be a lot of movement, and for cheaper than the premium fees being discussed in July.
I agree about that, but we're not being linked with DLPs - just immobile, limited destroyers like Dier and Matic. Don't see either of those breaking lines with quick incisive passes, so we'd end up stuck with the same laboured, stifled play. Someone like Weigl would be a positive step but we don't appear to want that kind of player.
I'd wank myself silly if we got Weigl or someone of his perceived qualities.
I think we've spent (approximately) £170m (14/15), £140m (15/16), £140m (16/17), and we're at about £100m so far for this window. Obviously we've offloaded players in each of those seasons, but I'm not going to calculate net spend. All I'm saying is that whilst it's unlikely we will spend £250m this window, we definitely could spend £250m if needed. For instance, should a player like Mbappe become available and it was realistic so long as we were willing to pay the fee, I don't doubt that we'd pay it.
Incorrect.
Yeah, about £30m out, but not a massive misrepresentation.
I can understand why you'd be frustrated at our lack of progress getting the new players on board, but you're being a little hysterical with some of the above.
Everton have signed a lot of shit which is largely no better than what they already had. And they've lost their main goalscorer. Not a great summer.
City have spent nearly £200m and the only player they've signed that I might have wanted for us was Mendy. They've signed a Brazilian goalkeeper(never the best) Kyle Walker for £50m and Bernardo Silva who isn't better than David Silva, who's place he's probably going to take. They've done ok but the spaffing of lots and lots of cash part is probably the most impressive thing about their window.
Chelsea have lost a proven PL goalscorer (Costa) and replaced him with somebody who despite his potential is anything but PL proven.
Arsenal finished 5th last year and have so far managed to cling onto their two best players from last year, although even that's not guaranteed yet. I don't see how you think they have strengthened.
It's not going great and I really want to see us sign a couple more players before the end of the summer window, but we've not lost any ground so far IMO.
Exactly. We spent about 160 that year. And that's after going about 4 years before that hardly spending anything between 2009 and 2013!
first signs of a meltdown are coming.I'm fairly certain that a number of people work on whatever you need night and day at Utd. Also, isn't it pretty established that you're trying to get one of Matic or Dier?
Lukaku - 24
Rashford - 8
Martial - 8
Pogba - 7
Mata - 7
Mkhitaryan - 6
Edit: on second thought, this is being optimistic. I don't expect these 6 players to reach a combined 60 goals in the league. Maybe 55.
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I'll go -
Lukaku 26 (think he beats his Everton tally just)
Rashford 8
Martial 11
Mata 5
Mkhitaryan 8
Pogba 10
That's 68. That would probably mean we score around 80 goals which on paper would mean a genuine title challenge if we are as good defensively.
Who do the extra 12 come from?
Looks like we'll need some help from Own Goals - that lazy fecker has done nothing for us since 2012/13.
for us to win the title looking at Spurs and Chelsea last season and Mahrez the season before for Leicester someone from the midfield will have to contribute 15-25 goals or assists and the striker up front to score 30 goals for a serious title challenge.
I dont see anyone from the united midfield churning out numbers like Dele Alli, Hazard, Sanchez do, so being 15-25 goals or assists short in the midfield is the reason i think we will realistically be fighting for a top 4 place.
I ll see you when you are banging your fingers on your keyboard about how you always wanted united to sign players after a shit result against bournmouth.
United are not even being linked to players now, its like it doesnt matter who we sign. The press arent even bothered to report about our targets. Under investment in this window will be very harmful to the club.
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