Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager

Longsden_7 said:
I hope he comes here or we're fecked, only man for the job.
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No doubt he's a world class manager, but can he build a team without unlimited funds available and both Chelsea and City competing for every player he'll be interested in?

Further more, is he willing to stay long term? I don't think Mourinho's bored easily, but he never stays longer than 3 years at a club. What if he takes the United job, but is planning to coach the Portugal national club one day?

Last and the most important point: his destructive and childish behavior has tarnished Real Madrid's reputation. I won't allow any coach to do that to my club, regardless of how great the manager is.

I don't think his career goal in life is United. To him, Manchester United is another nice name on his CV.
 
Longsden_7 said:
I hope he comes here or we're fecked, only man for the job.
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I wouldn't go as far to say that he's the only man for the job. He may be the best option, however it's very dismissive to say that we shouldn't even look at anyone else when making our choice.
 
If he does leave at the end of the season we'll see how much he really wants the United job. I think he's the next Utd manager if he is willing to wait for it, but with SAF showing no signs of stopping (long may he continue) will Jose be able to resist City until SAF does retire?
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
I want Guardiola.

He's a better bet than Mourinho.

Fergie goes probably in 2 seasons and in this time Guardiola could/will leave Barca.
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I'd love Guardiola to come here. But for some reason I can't see him coming and managing in England. He'll probably take a break and then end up in Italy.

In all honesty we have 0 clue of when Fergie is going to retire. So lets enjoy him while he's still here.
 
Sean_RedDevil said:
I want Guardiola.

He's a better bet than Mourinho.

Fergie goes probably in 2 seasons and in this time Guardiola could/will leave Barca.
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I'd love to see what Guardiola is capable of accomplishing when he's not coaching the team filled with world class talent, the best youth setup that produces the likes of Busquetz, Pedro and Thiago Alcantara on nearly annual basis and the best midfield in the world by a country mile before I start comparing him to Jose.

Pep is undoubtedly a talented manager who's done very well but he inherited a nearly ideal situation in a club where he came through the ranks and is respected and trusted by everyone. Most managers don't have those breaks.
 
Where's all this come from BTW? There's nothing on SSN or anything like that and wasn't there the same rumours last season?
 
cw1984 said:
Where's all this come from BTW? There's nothing on SSN or anything like that and wasn't there the same rumours last season?
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Yeah it seems to just be a rumour. Don't know why everyone on here is taking it as fact.
 
antihenry said:
I'd love to see what Guardiola is capable of accomplishing when he's not coaching the team filled with world class talent, the best youth setup that produces the likes of Busquetz, Pedro and Thiago Alcantara on nearly annual basis and the best midfield in the world by a country mile before I start comparing him to Jose.

Pep is undoubtedly a talented manager who's done very well but he inherited a nearly ideal situation in a club where he came through the ranks and is respected and trusted by everyone. Most managers don't have those breaks.
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You see, that's exactly why I want Guardiola to come here. A lot of people like you still believe that he has a lot to prove as a manager, which could spur him on to prove that he's not someone who just did a good job at Barcelona.

They did have a lot of talented youth players when he arrived, but their youth setup wasn't in an overly good state, and players like Busquets and Pedro weren't really expected to make it. Guardilola changed the whole youth setup, getting players to focus on their style of play from a very young age. It's a brilliant way for them to learn, and Guardiola deserves credit for this.

He also didn't really inherit the best midfield in the world at all. Xavi was a top midfielder, as was Iniesta, but they were a shadow of the midfield force that they've become now. You can hardly call it a coincidence that they've massively upped their game since Guardiola went to Barcelona, can you?
 
Longsden_7 said:
I hope he comes here or we're fecked, only man for the job.
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What a complete and utter load of wank.

If he DOES come here we are fecked. It would be the final step down the road that began with floating the club on the stock exchange, whoring our name and image to sell every product imaginable and ending up with the glazers, we'd kiss our dignity goodbye and to me there isnt a trophy in the world thats worth it.

Can you imagine how that classless wanker would have handled the whole Evra race row, certainly not with the class SAF did, we would by now be as big a laughing stock as those slum dwellers down the east lancs rd.

On the flip side, if he did come here we could sell the one product we dont, "utd brand tampons, make your twat as unpopular as the one in our dugout"
 
So it's just some journo?

I've been back through Guillem's tweets and in 1 tweet he's saying it's fact and in the very next tweet he's saying "if".
 
I wouldn't be surprised if he left after this year, as I've always thought his venture to Spain was a temporary placeholder until something interesting developed in England. Fergie doesn't appear to be going anywhere soon, so Jose may well just take a year or two off before taking his next job- which lets face it- will more than likely be at United at some point.

In any case, he can leave Madrid at the end of this year after having won the Copa del Rey, probably the league, and with a decent shout for the CL. Not surprisingly, Madrid are quite clearly a far better side than before he arrived
 
Naah, dont see him moving to City. He's alluded to wanting the United job in the past, moving to a club like city would totally rule him out. That said, i dont see him at Real for another 3yrs and i dont see SAF leaving before that.
 
Timing is everything in football though.

If he does leave in the summer I don't see him taking up to 3 years out waiting for the United job.
 
Bryan_Munich said:
Not sure he would be able to resist an offer from the richest club in the world though.
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Can't see him going to City. First, I can't see Mancini leaving anytime soon. They're competing for and winning trophies, which seems sufficient to buy him job security for a few years.
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
What a complete and utter load of wank.

If he DOES come here we are fecked. It would be the final step down the road that began with floating the club on the stock exchange, whoring our name and image to sell every product imaginable and ending up with the glazers, we'd kiss our dignity goodbye and to me there isnt a trophy in the world thats worth it.

Can you imagine how that classless wanker would have handled the whole Evra race row, certainly not with the class SAF did, we would by now be as big a laughing stock as those slum dwellers down the east lancs rd.

On the flip side, if he did come here we could sell the one product we dont, "utd brand tampons, make your twat as unpopular as the one in our dugout"
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SAF is one of a kind and you need to realise that. NO other manager would have handled it the same. Think of the club in the long haul, what we need post SAF is to keep winning and he is the only one to do it in a league he knows inside out.

It's not wank, its truth. Or we could just wait for SAF to go out in a blaze of glory and wait for Moyes to come in or someone else who can work with "a limited budget" Oh hang on Ole is getting the job:rolleyes:
 
Bryan_Munich said:
Timing is everything in football though.

If he does leave in the summer I don't see him taking up to 3 years out waiting for the United job.
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And that's assuming Fergie will retire in three years time.

I'm sure Mourinho would love the United job more than anything else, and he'd easily be my first choice. But you can't expect him to put his career on hold and not take certain jobs just so he keeps his chances to get a job that he may get in two, three, five years - or never.
 
Raoul said:
Can't see him going to City. First, I can't see Mancini leaving anytime soon. They're competing for and winning trophies, which seems sufficient to buy him job security for a few years.
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I can. If Mancini fails to win the league this season with the most expensive squad ever assembled and Mourinho becomes available they'd drop him like a stone in my opinion.

It wouldn't surprise me if they replaced him with Mourinho even if they won the league to be honest, there's no loyalty in football these days.
 
Raoul said:
Can't see him going to City. First, I can't see Mancini leaving anytime soon. They're competing for and winning trophies, which seems sufficient to buy him job security for a few years.
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If city don not win the title this year and Jose is available, I am certain they will try to get him to replace Mancini.
 
Bryan_Munich said:
Timing is everything in football though.

If he does leave in the summer I don't see him taking up to 3 years out waiting for the United job.
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Which is what i was saying. Even though he wants the job, there's no way he'l wait for 3yrs. I think he'l end up at some other english club. Hopefully not City.
 
Bryan_Munich said:
I can. If Mancini fails to win the league this season with the most expensive squad ever assembled and Mourinho becomes available they'd drop him like a stone in my opinion.

It wouldn't surprise me if they replaced him with Mourinho even if they won the league to be honest, there's no loyalty in football these days.
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Well City do look like a good bet to win the league, and even if we win it, it wouldn't be by much. That sort of improvement will be enough to keep Mancini's project moving forward, as I don't think City's owners are quite as knee-jerkish as Abromovich or the executives at Madrid. The other obvious issue is that Mourinho would probably take a year or two to readjust the squad at City just as he did with Inter and Madrid. In that sense, it would be less disruptive for City to retain Mancini.
 
Raoul said:
Well City do look like a good bet to win the league, and even if we win it, it wouldn't be by much. That sort of improvement will be enough to keep Mancini's project moving forward, as I don't think City's owners are quite as knee-jerkish as Abromovich or the executives at Madrid. The other obvious issue is that Mourinho would probably take a year or two to readjust the squad at City just as he did with Inter and Madrid. In that sense, it would be less disruptive for City to retain Mancini.
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Mourinho has a CV with 2 European Cups on it.
 
Longsden_7 said:
SAF is one of a kind and you need to realise that. NO other manager would have handled it the same. Think of the club in the long haul, what we need post SAF is to keep winning and he is the only one to do it in a league he knows inside out.

It's not wank, its truth. Or we could just wait for SAF to go out in a blaze of glory and wait for Moyes to come in or someone else who can work with "a limited budget" Oh hang on Ole is getting the job:rolleyes:
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To suggest no one else could keep united winning is ridiculous.

Add to that we dont have bottomless pits of cash like madrid and chelsea, and mourinhos transfers flop about 40% of the time......he is not some manegerial god, just a very good manager who has done well in very favourable positions.

Porto: won the league with the biggest club in the country....although th CL win was a hell of an achievement, granted.

Chelsea: won trophies with an unlimited budget, bought some great playrs and some utter shit.

Inter: wonthe league with a side that had won it three times on the trot already, admittedly again won the cl against the odds

Madrid: before he went there they were the second best side in the country, spent a fortune and they are still the second best team in the country.

Add to this the man is a monumental bellend of john terry proportions and I can honestly say id rather we brought big ron back before jose.
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
To suggest no one else could keep united winning is ridiculous.

Add to that we dont have bottomless pits of cash like madrid and chelsea, and mourinhos transfers flop about 40% of the time......he is not some manegerial god, just a very good manager who has done well in very favourable positions.

Porto: won the league with the biggest club in the country....although th CL win was a hell of an achievement, granted.

Chelsea: won trophies with an unlimited budget, bought some great playrs and some utter shit.

Inter: wonthe league with a side that had won it three times on the trot already, admittedly again won the cl against the odds

Madrid: before he went there they were the second best side in the country, spent a fortune and they are still the second best team in the country.

Add to this the man is a monumental bellend of john terry proportions and I can honestly say id rather we brought big ron back before jose.
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While i do agree with the overall gist of your post in that mourinho isnt my 1st choice either, you do his managerial credentials on field a huge disservice. If it was only the field results and performances we wanted, there are few better than him. The CL wins with porto and inter were superb achievements. Real too look a much better and more organised side now.

Its what he brings off the pitch that makes me not want him here. Too much goes around the man. That said, it'd take a man with serious balls to take over SAFs massive boots. Mourinho certainly has that.
 
crappycraperson said:
If city don not win the title this year and Jose is available, I am certain they will try to get him to replace Mancini.
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They may, but the City owners don't strike me as knee jerk as say, Abramovich. A 20 point improvement in the league and a 2nd place finish will be enough to keep Mancini in the job. He strikes me as increasingly settled, and when you factor in the Tevez debacle, Balotelli's distractions, and the African Cup, City's season will be considered a success if they narrowly lose the league on 85-90 points.
 
Bryan_Munich said:
I believe it will, on the basis that managers with 2 European Cups on their CV don't become available that often.

Mourinho could take them to the next level.
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So could Mancini, especially if City continue buying up top players in the summer. Not having won a CL yet, doesn't mean that Mancini is sufficiently bad to where he should he sacked.
 
Do some of you actually believe Mourinho, probably the second best manager in the world, would take up an assistant job at Man utd? The main job a great job for sure (though not as desirable as some of you would believe imo, the task of following Ferguson is going to be an absolute bitch) but I really don't think Mourinho dreams of United and has Ferguson and Rooney posters in his room.

Can't see Ferguson leaving this season. He won't want to leave on a season where you got knocked out of the CL in the group stage and there's a risk of finishing the season with no trophies. That would 100% be unacceptable for him imo.

Don't think City will fire Mancini, especially if he wins the league. Kenny will have immunity for a while if he wins the carling or FA cup. I'm not sure the extent to which Abrahmovich and him have burnt bridges. So that leaves us and Arsenal. Not sure I can see him taking either of those jobs tbh.

So, in conclusion, after writing all that, I have no idea who he's going to manage next. He should start learning German.
 
On Sunday Supplement on Sky one of the guys on that was saying he thinks if Mourinho became available that Sir Alex would step down to allow United to appoint him. Don't see it myself.
 
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