Morgan Schneiderlin | BBC: Morgan Schneiderlin is currently having a medical at Manchester United.

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He's also capable of playing box to box. So I don't think he's limited to being a pure DM.
 
He's also capable of playing box to box. So I don't think he's limited to being a pure DM.
If anything he's more of a box to box than a DM. I've no idea why people keep labeling him as a DM.

He's basically LvG's alternative to Strootman (well, if we want him).
 
Schneiderlin is such an unsexy signing.

The DM role hasn't been sexy for a long long time. Even SAF criticized which is kind of funny considering that he bought Keane, Ince, the German patient + he also played Phil Nev and Nicky Butt there.
 
Would absolutely love this transfer. It makes so much sense even though Gundogan is the better player, I would rather have Schneiderlin in for him.

It would give LVG a second option, so he has different sets of midfielders he can use against different teams.

Ideally, I would love something like this:

Against Big teams:

Depay-------Rooney-----Di Maria
-------------Herrera----------------
------Carrick---Schneiderlin--

Depending on Di Maria's form, would opt for Mata there, or Nani/Young/New player. Depending on the team, for example, Arsenal, Fellaini would be used possibly ahead of Herrera.

Smaller teams:

Depay-------Rooney-----Di Maria
-------------Mata----------------
------Herrera---Schneiderlin--

I think that would give the teams all sorts of troubles - but the main point is that even without signing someone like Gundogan, it just gives so much options and a backup option even if Carrick gets injured (as much as I like Blind, he hasn't looked good in midfield when Carrick isn't there). Adding Gundogan in will give us even more variety in the midfield, which we will need if we are going to challenge for the league and Europe next season.
 
Not as over the top excited as some in here, maybe because I took some good signings as a given this summer. Think he is a good player and the price of £25 million would be about right. Happy enough with this if it goes through.
 
The DM role hasn't been sexy for a long long time. Even SAF criticized which is kind of funny considering that he bought Keane, Ince, the German patient + he also played Phil Nev and Nicky Butt there.
Many top teams have been using a DM recently. It's a key role if you're playing 4-3-3 and you want to allow your other midfielders more freedom to go forward.

I think Schneiderlin would be perfect because he's not just a destroyer, his technical ability is good as well.
 
Yes, they are reliable, there is no reason for them to say something that isn't true, someone that they trust gave them the information. The real question is , is their informant reliable?
I've also considered them the French version of Sky, where if Sky uses the words 'Sky sports understands' there's a 90% chance its true. Am I valuating their reliability too highly or is it a fair comparison?
 
That came as surprise with no media linking him with us a week back or so,hope the news be true.We are missing kind of player for so long period now.
In Carrick's absence, i like to see something like

----------Schneiderlin-----------
----Herrera----------Gundogan--
Mata-------Rooney-------DiMaria
 
I've also considered them the French version of Sky, where if Sky uses the words 'Sky sports understands' there's a 90% chance its true. Am I valuating their reliability too highly or is it a fair comparison?

I think that it's a fair comparison.
 
At the moment we play with a midfield that looks a bit like this:
Carrick
Herrera - Fellaini
However, there is a better than reasonable chance that that shape will change to that of a forward facing triangle (a shape LVG has used many times in the past). Something like:

Carrick - Schneiderlin
Herrera​

I was going to post the same. LvG says he likes the #10 to be further forward and play with two further back.

Only thing I would suggest is that Schneiderlin could play with Herrera, with Mata at #10, depending who we sign. That would give us more of an engine in midfield and creativity further forward. We could then drop in Carrick or Blind for either as and when required... we must assume Carrick will be treated with kid gloves next season to avoid wearing him out.

I think an MF selection of Carrick, Blind, Schneiderlin and Herrera gives a nice enough balance. If we are after another player as well then perhaps LvG does see Blind as a utility player.
 
Wouldn't Schneiderlin coming in mean Herrera moving into the forward position occupied by Mata (& Mata becoming surplus)?

With Depay assured a start & a striker being muted (Benzema/Benteke), this suggests to me Rooney at 10, doing his job of making up a flexible three man midfield, in front of Carrick & Schneiderlin.

---------------Striker--------------
Depay-----------------Herrera
--------------Rooney--------------
------Schneiderlin-----------------
Shaw-----------Carrick-----Valencia
---------Jones------Smalling-----
--------------Valdes---------------

EDIT. Schneiderlin in midfield & Carrick plays as often as possible. Depay starts, Young is staying, Nani, will anyone pay his wages? If Nani stays, surely this can only result in Di Maria moving on.
 
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Many top teams have been using a DM recently. It's a key role if you're playing 4-3-3 and you want to allow your other midfielders more freedom to go forward.

I think Schneiderlin would be perfect because he's not just a destroyer, his technical ability is good as well.

They are still widely used however they don't get the respect they deserve, at least not anymore. Which is kind of stupid TBH. A quality defensive midfielder will not only give breathing space to the defense (ask Juventus when they lost Davids) + would win the ball but would also allow attacking midfielders time to settle down.Pirlo and Scholes would have never been able to make the transition from forwards to midfielders without the help of two bullmastiffes (Gattuso and Keane) who covered for their mistakes and allowed them the time to settle down.

As I said in a post written two-three days ago. You can get away with winning with kids or with a team of nobodies but you will never win with a team made up of 11 boy scouts. Someone must do the dirty work.
 
That came as surprise with no media linking him with us a week back or so,hope the news be true.We are missing kind of player for so long period now.
In Carrick's absence, i like to see something like

----------Schneiderlin-----------
----Herrera----------Gundogan--
Mata-------Rooney-------DiMaria

Depay?
 
They are still widely used however they don't get the respect they deserve, at least not anymore. Which is kind of stupid TBH. A quality defensive midfielder will not only give breathing space to the defense (ask Juventus when they lost Davids) + would win the ball but would also allow attacking midfielders time to settle down.Pirlo and Scholes would have never been able to make the transition from forwards to midfielders without the help of two bullmastiffes (Gattuso and Keane) who covered for their mistakes and allowed them the time to settle down.

As I said in a post written two-three days ago. You can get away with winning with kids or with a team of nobodies but you will never win with a team made up of 11 boy scouts. Someone must do the dirty work.
Exactly, not to mention that when playing without a DM, one of the CBs has to come out to sweep danger and try to intercept plays. With a DM, he takes those responsibilities which allows the CBs to fully focus on what's behind them and on their side. It minimises both defensive errors and positional errors from the back 4 and that is why we are so solid with Carrick in there.
 
Sure it's been mentioned but I can't be arsed to read all the way through - didn't he miss the end of the season with knee ligament damage? Has he recovered from that yet?
 
Yep. A lot of posters in this thread who don't seem to have seen him play much, and just speculate on Schneiderlein.
Check whoscored. Southampton play a flat midfield with either 2 CM or 2 DM.
 
Yep. A lot of posters in this thread who don't seem to have seen him play much, and just speculate on Schneiderlein.
Yeah I havent watched too much of Soton, but whenever i have, it seemed Wanyama was holding.

I always had it as:

------------------Back 4

-----------------Wanyama

------Ward-Prowse-------Schneiderlin

But like I said, I could be wrong, because I haven't watched them enough.
 
If you are gonna have Carrick and Schneiderlin as 2 Pivot's then the AM needs to be more attacking.

A Mata or Di Maria kind who can give you high number of goals, assists and attacking contributions.

You don't think Herrera has shown he can be a good attacking player?

In terms of goals and assists he has 10 this season in 1868 minutes, Mata has 13 in 2309 and Di Maria has 13 in 1645. That seems fine from Herrera considering the other two have both benefited from taking set pieces and have generally played in more attacking positions throughout the season.
 
Yeah I havent watched too much of Soton, but whenever i have, it seemed Wanyama was holding.

I always had it as:

------------------Back 4

-----------------Wanyama

------Ward-Prowse-------Schneiderlin

But like I said, I could be wrong, because I haven't watched them enough.

Schneiderlin normally plays alongside Wanyama and then the third guy, which is only sometimes Ward-Prowse, is the attacking player.
 
Yeah I havent watched too much of Soton, but whenever i have, it seemed Wanyama was holding.

I always had it as:

------------------Back 4

-----------------Wanyama

------Ward-Prowse-------Schneiderlin

But like I said, I could be wrong, because I haven't watched them enough.

Nah they usually have 2 holding mids
 
At last, after years and years of fruitless muppetry, thousands of posts, we might be getting a Schneiderlin! :drool:

 
Imagine the commentators if United had a midfield of Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger and Sneijder.
 
If you are gonna have Carrick and Schneiderlin as 2 Pivot's then the AM needs to be more attacking.

A Mata or Di Maria kind who can give you high number of goals, assists and attacking contributions.
Ander has 8 goals and 5 assists playing a rather reserved role in 20 something appearances. His goals and assists won't be an issue.
 
So anything else said about this apart from the original story in France? Any other source backing it up?
 
I would be pretty happy with this signing. He might not be Pogba or Vidal, but he is Premiership proven and about to reach his prime.
 
So anything else said about this apart from the original story in France? Any other source backing it up?
Nothing good. A couple of crap English papers clearly getting their info off the initial story.
 
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