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Gazza said:
Probably spot on. Be interesting to see if Coleman pushes on or if his development is more like Walker's. Zabaleta was a steal for City similar to when we signed Evra in terms of the price paid and the types of player they were.
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Walker's a shame because he possesses all the physical attributes but is brainless. However, I don't think playing in such a shaky backline of late has helped his development - I also think it's served to highlight his deficiencies. Maybe in a more steady team he'll get back in to some decent form.
 
NoPace said:
Spurs' problem is a lack of real upside. Where can you see them really getting top production? For me it's:

Manager - Pochettino was brilliant at Southampton and he loves pressing. Good enough for me.
RW - Lamela has the tools
LCB - Vertonghen had an off-year, but he's a good player and was fantastic for 3 or 4 months in his first season
DM - Let's say one of Sandro or Schneiderlin could make a leap forward

I left out Eriksen because I don't think he'll score a bunch or be a plus defensively, so even though he's a lovely player you need more from a 10 to be top bracket. Soldado could score 20 goals, but won't do much else. The fullbacks are fast in straight lines but otherwise a bit average.

I think Pochettino will improve them, but a good season for them would be 6th place (finish ahead of one of United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton, they won't catch Chelsea or Citeh), a Cup final and one of Chichires/Kaboul, one of Davies/Walker and one of Sandro/Paulinho really taking to Pochettino's system and leaving them poised to do something after next summer if they can sign another winger with talent, a CM who can really pass the ball to properly replace Modric and a fullback to start opposite the one that improves.

And even then they'll probably lose Vertonghen and Lloris and be right back to square one, really.
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You need more to be top bracket? He was our most productive player last season with 7 goals (One less than Oscar, less games) and the same assists as Ozil (9). He doesn't just look pretty on the ball. Despite a very rocky year for the club he shone brilliantly and went on a couple of brilliant scoring runs where he carried the team. No idea why he's not bracket but Oscar is; when Eriksen is putting out better numbers in an inferior side. If Soldado and Lamela start scoring next season you'll see him getting a bucketful of assists. Next year I'm very excited because I think he's going to be even better and really establish himself after a brilliant first season. Not sure what "more" you want from him: he's capable of smashing one in from range on either foot, he's an excellent dribbler, a very good passer, an intelligent player. What more is it you want from that position?

Our fullbacks are fine. Davies was very good for Swansea and is very highly rated and is PL proven. He's very good going forward by all accounts and Swansea fans rate him very highly. Walker as I've said is brainless but still has the talent to be a good fullback and shouldn't be written off.

Your perception of Soldado is also way off. The best thing about him last season was his ability on the ball. His passing and creativity was actually surprisingly good, he's excellent in the build up so he won't just score and nothing else. He contributes massively to general play, everyone thought he'd come in, score some goals but be a bit of Defoe in that he'd be selfish and just a poacher and nothing more. Totally wrong.

As I said: If we sign a centre back to partner Vert and a good left winger I'll be excited for the coming season. If not we could see more of the same.
 
I'll be happy if we can sign Schneiderlin. He'll fit into our squad perfectly alongside Carrick or Herrera.

A no-fuss signing like Schneiderlin that would improve our 1st team is much preferred; I would go as far as to say screw marquee signings like Vidal, the long-drawn out drama of ArturON and ArturOFF and Juve board holding us to ransom is just weary.
 
Red Comet said:
I'll be happy if we can sign Schneiderlin. He'll fit into our squad perfectly alongside Carrick or Herrera.

A no-fuss signing like Schneiderlin that would improve our 1st team is much preferred; I would go as far as to say screw marquee signings like Vidal, the long-drawn out drama of ArturON and ArturOFF and Juve board holding us to ransom is just weary.
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Same here. Get Schneiderlin or lars Bender and our midfield would improve immediately. Get into the Champions league this season and then try and get someone better next summer.
 
I hope we aren't letting another potentially very very good central midfield signing pass us by. Everything I've read about this guy seems to be very positive.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
I hope we aren't letting another potentially very very good central midfield signing pass us by. Everything I've read about this guy seems to be very positive.
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Well we don't know if we're in contact with any other midfielder but it would be annoying if we signed nobody or a thug like De Jong. Think him, Herrera and Mata would have been a very good midfield three. Not City or Chelsea level but good enough so that we don't get bummed every time we come up against a good midfielder.
 
Eriksen said:
TLDR: SPURS
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Re: Eriksen, I really like him, but I think Mourinho was basically right to get rid of Mata in that a 10 in a 4-2-3-1 really needs to be incredibly productive to justify being mediocre defensively in such a key position. If Soldado, Lamela and Townsend/Lennon all produce fine seasons due to Eriksen's playmaking, than fair enough. But that's the focal point position. Same reason why Rooney can score 15 goals playing as a 10 and still not have had an incredible season in that position. A 10/SS can have a great season without really moving the needle a ton. Look at the the players in the hole in the Prem: Ozil, Mata, Oscar/Cesc, Eriksen, Aguero/Toure, Barkley, Sterling/Coutinho. If 2 of the young Merseyside players have the season they're capable of, I'm not sure any of those players will be a ton better than 4 or 5 of their rivals. More likely, Eriksen will have a fine season and Spurs will get the 4th or 5th most production in that list, right?

The case for Oscar is that he's a plus defensive player at his position in addition to his good work offensively, unlike everyone else on that list.

Re: Soldado, He's not a bad overall player, but his strength is movement and finishing. Spaniards look like all-around talents in the Prem, but I would expect more goals from him and comparatively, his other work will be seen as less impressive. I don't think he's the creator for others that Giroud or Rooney are, for example.

Re: Transfers, I totally agree. A partner for Vertonghen and a left-winger and they'll have a serious chance at a top 4 situation.

I think you've found a really, really promising manager, but Arsenal, United and Chelsea have all strengthened significantly, and you're miles from catching Citeh, and with your 4 wide starters right now being: Lamela, Lennon/Townsend, Davies and Walker, that's not going to change.
 
Perhaps because Southampton have decided that they have already sold enough and that there will be no more exodus
 
Ringo 07 said:
Perhaps because Southampton have decided that they have already sold enough and that there will be no more exodus
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Force their hand,thought i read he wanted out and they where just trying to keep him happy and he is acting professionally.

Id take him here in a second and our midfield would be half functional again you could bet.
 
Ringo 07 said:
Perhaps because Southampton have decided that they have already sold enough and that there will be no more exodus
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If we'd payed something similar to Fellaini, they'd consider it IMO. He highlights our problem really. We could have signed him last year, we could have signed him this year, before Koeman was appointed, at least that's what I keep telling myself. I'm not saying it was van Gaal's mistake and in hindsight you couldn't expect anything from Moyes other than identifying good players, but we should have acted a lot quicker this summer and last. The assessing of our squad is doing my head in. Fletcher, Cleverley, Young, Valencia and Anderson have not looked good enough for quite some time.

I'm past caring, what we spend. Usually I like value signing like Hernandez and Smalling, but I hope and would want us to pay silly money for him. I also don't care, if that makes us look desperate. He's quality and would give our midfield balance.
 
Box to Box midfielder is his best role. Not really the ideal partner for Herrera.

If we aren't getting Vidal whose quality is enough to make a slightly imbalanced combo work, i'd prefer we signed a #6 who can pass well.
 
bucky said:
If we'd payed something similar to Fellaini, they'd consider it IMO. He highlights our problem really. We could have signed him last year, we could have signed him this year, before Koeman was appointed, at least that's what I keep telling myself. I'm not saying it was van Gaal's mistake and in hindsight you couldn't expect anything from Moyes other than identifying good players, but we should have acted a lot quicker this summer and last. The assessing of our squad is doing my head in. Fletcher, Cleverley, Young, Valencia and Anderson have not looked good enough for quite some time.

I'm past caring, what we spend. Usually I like value signing like Hernandez and Smalling, but I hope and would want us to pay silly money for him. I also don't care, if that makes us look desperate. He's quality and would give our midfield balance.
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Fecking A.

We could have had him,Stootman and Cabaye in the last 12 months.
 
FromTheBench said:
Box to Box midfielder is his best role. Not really the ideal partner for Herrera.

If we aren't getting Vidal whose quality is enough to make a slightly imbalanced combo work, i'd prefer we signed a #6 who can pass well.
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He certainly is a very disciplined midfielder and has no problem being the holding midfielder, he has done it for Southampton. Actually I think there aren't many out there that would be more suited to partner Ander Herrera.
 
Is he okay staying with Southampton for the time being? He isn't making any more noise.
 
FromTheBench said:
Box to Box midfielder is his best role. Not really the ideal partner for Herrera.

If we aren't getting Vidal whose quality is enough to make a slightly imbalanced combo work, i'd prefer we signed a #6 who can pass well.
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Well to be fair, if we had either and Di Maria to then we wouldn't be looking to play a midfield two.

I don't think we should be playing a two anyway but still...
 
RDCR07 said:
Is he okay staying with Southampton for the time being? He isn't making any more noise.
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No, he still very much wants to come to Spurs (his angry tweet has not been deleted) ... and this may still well happen before the window closes IMO, possibly with Townsend going the other way.
 
Said it a million times we should go in for him. Even Ward-Prowse would be a good signing. Basically anyone who can play as a CM and has some ability would improve us.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
If we are going to for a Southampton midfielder in the near future it should be James Ward Prowse.
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Good lad, but not a DM/CM at all, isn't he? Schneiderlin would be a good buy imo, but don't think Southampton will sell another player till the window closes.
 
Should've offered 'em Hernandez for him while they wanted him and were still selling players.
 
Empire said:
Yeah because Hernandez dreams of playing in the relegation dogfight.
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There's a fair few teams in much worse states than Southampton, they'll still be closer to 8/9th than they will be the relegation zone.
 
Santos J said:
Should've offered 'em Hernandez for him while they wanted him and were still selling players.
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Doubt he would want to move there anyway when teams like Juventus, Athletico and Inter were interested in him at the same time.
 
Just scored - worth two Fletcher atm who was shit againa s our DM... but we aren't in for him ffs
 
27mil yee say? Hmmm seems about right for his abilities. Won't set the world alight but does a very good job and can chip in with goals. Hilarious that we ain't looking to the likes of him to replace the dross in squad depth.
 
This bloke and dejan lovren would have been excellent signings but maybe lvg has something else up his sleeve
 
Yes I like Scheniderlin a lot. Probably more than any other of the saints players including those who have left this summer. Ward-Prowse is showing real promise too...
 
Scheniderlin is the midfielder we should be targeting over the next 2 days. He is an energetic player with a good touch who can actually tackle and win the ball back. I know a lot of people wanted Vidal or another superstar, but Scheniderlin would fill a lot of what we need until we can get hold of that superstar. Fletcher is done, Carrick is too slow and passive, Anderson may help if he stays fit and motivated, but other than that we are very light in defensive midfield options.
 
i feel as if this is another Cabaye Scenario, a ready made insta fix to our midfield shower of shite who undoubtedly we will pass over, only for him to make a big move next summer or january.
 
Still not too late to grab him, we just have to make an actual bid. I just dont think that he is on our radar.
 
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