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2015-16 Performances

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5.7 Season Average Rating
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38
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1
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ivaldo said:
Carrick plays too far back to be compatable with him, they get in each others way.
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I actually thought today was the first time they actually had quite a bit of space between them. Carrick was pushing quite high up the pitch, particularly in the first half, and left it to Morgan to dictate the tempo a bit more... Which he did a poor job off
 
His best game for us so far imo.

His passing still leaves a lot to be desired, but his defensive work is great.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
His best game for us so far imo.

His passing still leaves a lot to be desired, but his defensive work is great.
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I only watched the second half, but thought he looked like our best player out there. Proper box-to-box midfielder, he will become great for us.
 
podurban2 said:
I only watched the second half, but thought he looked like our best player out there. Proper box-to-box midfielder, he will become great for us.
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He was much better in the 2nd half than 1st half. The entire team played better in the 2nd half.
 
ivaldo said:
Carrick plays too far back to be compatable with him, they get in each others way.
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It's that and also because Carrick has a serial lack of movement. Carrick is too happy to sit, even in games like today against Sunderland. Schneiderlin is a very good defensive player but I don't think he's 'naturally' defensive minded i.e right now he's doing what's been asked of him and being disciplined. Schneiderlin wants to press, attack the opposition with tackles and with passing; he's like a more defensive version of Herrera but more physical.

Come to think of it, in games where we need some speed on the ball, during the game and more movement from our central midfielders, who can actually play 'well' with Carrick (as a long term solution because surely we can't rotate them to suit the opposition all the time)?
 
His lack of bombing forward surely can be somehow justified by Depay's reluctance to track back, somebody actually has to cover it.
 
Kostur said:
His lack of bombing forward surely can be somehow justified by Depay's reluctance to track back, somebody actually has to cover it.
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Mata too, its why he is in the side and why we are conceding so few goals. He isn't in the side to bomb forward, even though he can, because if he does we'll be heavily exposed at the back. He is there to cover the defence because the front four except for Rooney sure as hell aren't going to do it.
 
He seemed to take charge a bit more today I thought. Still not overly ambitious but he seemed to be getting to ball first a lot more and directing more of the play which was nice to see.

A good player helping us to be better.
 
Thought he had a fantastic second half. Seemed to take more responsibility and looked more comfortable on the ball.
 
Poor first half. Much better 2nd.

I haven't seen a United midfielder get ignored by his teammates in possession this much since O'Shea was playing there.

I think his passing will improve (I don't think it was this mediocre for Southampton) but it's pretty poor at the moment. He's athletic enough to make decent runs off the ball but he's sitting deeper and if that's the case, he needs to move the ball better. The top teams in Europe don't have such a limited ballplayer in their first choice midfield like that anymore. Not just Barca, Bayern, Real, but even Atletico, Dortmund, Chelsea or Citeh.

He'll be more useful in tougher games, obviously, and it's early for him after so many years at a smaller club, but I am starting to think he might be an Ambrosini or Butt type for us, not that there's much wrong with that, rather than a nailed on starter.
 
This is the first time I've read this thread and I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one that hasn't been overly impressed. I see him as being the physical holding mid that we all hoped Fellaini would be (before we realized he is too attack minded). I don't mind having him sitting in the hole as I want to do anything possible to free Bastian up to be able to go everywhere and do it all for us. I've rated him a 5.5 so far this season which is a good bit below the redcafe average.
 
Kostur said:
His lack of bombing forward surely can be somehow justified by Depay's reluctance to track back, somebody actually has to cover it.
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It's clearly LVG's instructions, he wants 2 midfielders sitting at all times. He calls them a "double 6", obviously want's the front 4 players to take more risks, but that means holding the ball up and movement is extra important. That's why Martial's involvement has been such a big improvement.
 
11101 said:
Still think hes arguably our most important signing. Leaves the flashy stuff to others, and concentrates on his job of stopping the opposition going at our centre backs.

No coincidence our defence is now rock solid and Southampton's has fallen apart.
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Exactly. He does all the hard work behind the scenes which doesn't get noticed in the natural run of the game - but it is so critical in cutting off passing lanes and shielding the back four. As you said, it's no coincidence that our defense has instantly looked better and Southampton's is a mess. And for that reason I do agree that he is our most important signing.
 
Man Utd 2:1 Wolfsburg
I'll probably cop some flak for this, but that is an incredibly tame, borderline cowardly performance I've seen from one of our CMs inside OT for ages.

He isn't asking for the ball, he's barely moving for people on the ball, and he's even pulling out of challenges (before the booking)! Needs to grow a set and start imposing himself more.
 
Disappointed in him. He doesn't really do anything on the ball, doesn't get on it enough and he hasn't been anywhere near the rock he was in front of the Saints back four. The games pass him by
 
His positioning off the ball when we have possession is poor. He doesn't get open enough.

Carrick-Schweinsteiger is our best CM pairing imo.
 
Same great passes today though, would like to see more of it.
 
Lucky not to get sent off tonight. Very rash at times and prone to jumping in to tackles when it's not needed.
 
His play from losing the ball to then getting the booking was terrible. Could've been very costly for us.
 
Idiotic from him. And generally rubbish tonight. Not that impressed yet with him.
 
In a game like tonight were we were under pressure I would expect him to really stand out, but at times he was more of a hinderance
 
Seems a bit overawed so far, struggling to make the step up just yet. Needs to learn what he can and can't do in European games as well.
 
Really poor tonight. Worst game in our shirt, and, to be honest, he's looking out of his depth at the moment.

He'll improve as the seasons continues and we've to persevere with him until he does.
 
Played with so little intelligence tonight. Positioning was awful, and very rarely showed for the ball. Seemed quite content to let the game drift him by.
 
Carrick, Schweinisteiger, and Herrera are all better than him in midfield imo.

His defensive work is good, but it's not that good to excuse how poor he is at times when we have the ball. Has to improve.
 
Defensively poor dscisions, on the ball useless. He hides most of the times and just doesnt offer a lot in posession. Needs to improve massively
 
Had a shocker tonight, no doubt about it.

The midfield went to pieces the moment Basti went off.
 
Champions league is an entirely different animal to him right now. He looks more comfortable in the league games.
 
Morgan looked like a big fish in a small pond tonight. Could not cope with the pressure of needing to win at this level. The moment where he dawdled with two players open to receive passes, which led to him losing the ball and us conceding a dangerous free kick, typified his night. It was like having an average centre back in midfield.
 
Adisa said:
He's new. You can excuse him.
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To an extent. I still think he's settling in and we've got a lot more to see from him, but that doesn't mean people aren't going to be critical if he has a poor game.
 
Randall Flagg said:
I agree

I can't take to him at all

Just doesn't seem like a Utd player yet
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This. He seems like a real backwards step in terms of what we're looking for. He doesn't seem to show for the ball, he's unbelievably negative and doesn't look confident in possession at all.

He'll get time but as it stands he's looking massively out his depth. I'm really hoping that he's just struggling to adapt to the lack of space you get at United and with confidence will grow. However a big part of me thinks that his piers in his position are much better technically which is going to make it difficult for the fans to take to him.
 
He's a Gattuso, or so I've always thought. Very solid and occasionally brilliant if he has a game controller playing besides him, leaving him to do all the donkey work, but ask him to play and he fell to pieces.

Early days though, he'll improve.
 
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