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2015-16 Performances


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5.7 Season Average Rating
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Adds a level of physicality and solidity to the side, but doesn't appear to work well with Carrick at all. I feel their roles are almost the wrong way around at times (when together that is). Both play so much better when it's one or the other with Schweinsteiger.
 
He's a holding midfielder.

What do you want him to do? His job is to win the ball, press and pass to the better players around him.
I know

I'm not fair, but this type of player takes some getting used to for me.

He is and will forever be 6/10
 
Adds a level of physicality and solidity to the side, but doesn't appear to work well with Carrick at all. I feel their roles are almost the wrong way around at times (when together that is). Both play so much better when it's one or the other with Schweinsteiger.

I agree. Schneiderlin and Carrick seem to operate in very similar positions on the pitch, despite having different jobs, but it creates a big gap between midfield and attack and makes it difficult to play through the middle. Schweinsteiger plays a more advanced game and will go forward more than the other two. We look better when it's Schweinsteiger +1
 
Not disagreeing, but he's a pure DM and he's not really supposed to offer that much on the ball.
I thought that he was quite good on the ball at Southampton but for some reason hasn't shown that at United yet. He always plays it safe and backwards (not the only one in our team) but I know there's more to his game
 
I thought that he was quite good on the ball at Southampton but for some reason hasn't shown that at United yet. He always plays it safe and backwards (not the only one in our team) but I know there's more to his game

Aye, I'm guessing it's part down to instructions and part due to feeling his way into the team.
 
Aye, I'm guessing it's part down to instructions and part due to feeling his way into the team.
That is very likely as our general play is so cautious that we can't build up pressure or attack when the other team is not yet organized
 
Not disagreeing, but he's a pure DM and he's not really supposed to offer that much on the ball.

That's just not true, if you have seen him for Southampton. He's no Carrick, but he can definitely play better in possession.

Aye, I'm guessing it's part down to instructions and part due to feeling his way into the team.

I agree with that.
 
He seemed a little sluggish and mentally slow in the first half. He seemed too slow in passing the ball and was playing way too slow even when there were options further up the pitch. He improved a lot defensively in the second half and at least looked to drive forward with the ball a couple of times.
 
Been solid without being spectacular for us so far.
 
And sometimes that's all you need.

True. Definitely think he's got a lot more to offer us though. Certainly looked decent so far. Perhaps isn't helping that we're rotating the three midfielders around a lot, although that's unlikely to change with Schweinsteiger/Carrick since they'll both need rested a lot. Schneiderlin will probably benefit as he gradually gets more and more used to playing alongside the two of them, though.
 
I was expecting better. Not sure I agree with the 'he's a DM you can't expect good passing from him' as Carrick did the DM role for years while being a good passer. The people who said they would rather have Schneiderlin over Schweinsteiger in the summer are a little crazy!
 
People were saying the same about Carrick at the start because he didn't play like Keane.
 
I was expecting better. Not sure I agree with the 'he's a DM you can't expect good passing from him' as Carrick did the DM role for years while being a good passer. The people who said they would rather have Schneiderlin over Schweinsteiger in the summer are a little crazy!

Nah, I'm pretty confident that Schneiderlin will become a far more important player for United than Schweinsteiger.

People need to remember that Schneiderlin has never played in this type of environment before, where every single thing you do is critiqued by both fans and journalists. I think he has handled it very well so far, but there's so much more to come from him.
 
Thought he was very good. Played a very important role and is settling in nicely.
 
I don't think him and Carrick are a particularly good partnership in all honesty. They're both quite similar players, albeit at different stages of their career, but we do lack attacking momentum from the middle with those two. I think it should be one of Carrick/Morgan partnered with one of Basti/Herrera. That, or play 3 of the 4.
 
I thought he was pretty good to be honest. He made some good interceptions and tackles. He doesn't look as good with Carrick though.
 
Nightmarish performance in the first 20 minutes but grew stronger. Was everywhere and was quite immense in defense. He is going to be really big for us.
 
He is good, but I still think Carrick-Schweinsteiger is our best partnership.
 
He was pretty good but he can still be a bit sloppy in possession. Hoping he improves his work on the ball as the season goes on because he shows glimpses of it every now and then. Because if he's going to just be a defensive screen then he needs to absolutely incredible at it ala Makelele.
 
He was made to look worse yesterday because Carrick played like a coward. I don't think they're similar players at all unless Carrick goes into his shell. On form Carrick makes things tick for us in a way Schneiderlin never will. He just didn't do that at all yesterday.
 
I know

I'm not fair, but this type of player takes some getting used to for me.

He is and will forever be 6/10

He's better with the ball than he has shown. He isn't a Tiote as some would like you to believe. Our system takes time getting used to, I'm absolutely sure he'll get better with the ball.
 
He's better with the ball than he has shown. He isn't a Tiote as some would like you to believe. Our system takes time getting used to, I'm absolutely sure he'll get better with the ball.

This is what I'm hoping for. I have to say I was never enamoured with the signing and certainly didn't agree with the belief on here that he would be our best signing this Summer. I'm just looking for him to be a bit more positive in possession. There have been a fair few examples so far this season where he could turn and run forward into the space for 20-30 yards and has instead chosen the safe sideways pass. In actual fact the responsibility of bringing the ball out of defence has fallen to Blind and Smalling, which naturally leaves a hole at the back.

I'm sure he'll improve, I'm just not sure he'll ever be more than good - more of a steady but unspectacular player.
 
This is what I'm hoping for. I have to say I was never enamoured with the signing and certainly didn't agree with the belief on here that he would be our best signing this Summer. I'm just looking for him to be a bit more positive in possession. There have been a fair few examples so far this season where he could turn and run forward into the space for 20-30 yards and has instead chosen the safe sideways pass. In actual fact the responsibility of bringing the ball out of defence has fallen to Blind and Smalling, which naturally leaves a hole at the back.

I'm sure he'll improve, I'm just not sure he'll ever be more than good - more of a steady but unspectacular player.

He's never going to be running 20 30 ards with the ball or become a spectacular passer. He is definitely better than what he has shown though. I think the onus of creating things will always be on the one playing next to him and our attackers who drop deep. He's there to let them flourish but isn't as useless as a Tiote.
 
He's never going to be running 20 30 yards with the ball or become a spectacular passer. He is definitely better than what he has shown though. I think the onus of creating things will always be on the one playing next to him and our attackers who drop deep. He's there to let them flourish but isn't as useless as a Tiote.

I don't think anyone was expecting a spectacular passer, but I think we're fully entitled to expect him to carry the ball 10, 20 or 30 yards out of defence and then distribute it to our attacking players. This is part of the reason he was so good for So'ton, he wouldn't just stifle opposition attacks and press/tackle/intercept. He would relieve pressure by carrying the ball forwards. Someone posted a video of him against Man City when we signed him where he was often moving past Toure into the space in behind which opened up space in their midfield.

This is what I'd like to see more of, I'm not suggesting he turn into a 25 year old Paul Scholes, just that he carry the ball a bit further when the opportunity presents itself. Hopefully this is just a confidence thing, whereby he doesn't want to make any costly mistakes so early into his career here.
 
He seems to fit the system well enough. I'd like to see him venture further forward in the way Toure does but guess that goes against the 'philosophy'. I think there is more to come but don't expect high energy runs and careering into the penalty box. He's the water carrier and lets face it every successful team seems to have one. I think he's there as much as anything to compete with Carrick and ultimately dethrone him. This season will be a bedding in one for him and perhaps it will be a year or so until we see the very best of him.
 
I don't think anyone was expecting a spectacular passer, but I think we're fully entitled to expect him to carry the ball 10, 20 or 30 yards out of defence and then distribute it to our attacking players. This is part of the reason he was so good for So'ton, he wouldn't just stifle opposition attacks and press/tackle/intercept. He would relieve pressure by carrying the ball forwards. Someone posted a video of him against Man City when we signed him where he was often moving past Toure into the space in behind which opened up space in their midfield.

This is what I'd like to see more of, I'm not suggesting he turn into a 25 year old Paul Scholes, just that he carry the ball a bit further when the opportunity presents itself. Hopefully this is just a confidence thing, whereby he doesn't want to make any costly mistakes so early into his career here.

I don't think it's something he's incapable of but our CMs aren't really encouraged to run with the ball. Especially given he plays as the deepest CM, I don't see him doing it. Ofcourse, if a chance for a quick counter comes up and he has the ball, he'll do it but those are rare.
 
I don't think anyone was expecting a spectacular passer, but I think we're fully entitled to expect him to carry the ball 10, 20 or 30 yards out of defence and then distribute it to our attacking players. This is part of the reason he was so good for So'ton, he wouldn't just stifle opposition attacks and press/tackle/intercept. He would relieve pressure by carrying the ball forwards. Someone posted a video of him against Man City when we signed him where he was often moving past Toure into the space in behind which opened up space in their midfield.
When have you seen any player, let alone midfielder in our team carry the ball 10/20/30 yards out of defence and distribute it to our attack? That is an absolutely absurd expectation. Carrick and BFS don't even do that on a regular basis. In fact, barely anybody bar Smalling has really done it this season.
 
I don't think it's something he's incapable of but our CMs aren't really encouraged to run with the ball. Especially given he plays as the deepest CM, I don't see him doing it. Ofcourse, if a chance for a quick counter comes up and he has the ball, he'll do it but those are rare.

I'm not sure why Blind/Smalling would be encouraged to bring the ball out from deep over our central midfielder.
 
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