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2015-16 Performances

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Trizy said:
We bought him for the job he's best at and that's cleaning up the lost balls in midfield & energy, its not glorious but by no means did they club think they were getting Iniesta. I think he's be fine any game he's played he is also young and after coming to a new club, give him time. As for people calling him out on his passing that's fair enough, it has been off but trust me this guy can pass as good as Carrick.
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I assumed he'd be a little less mobile and physical than he seemed when he was so good against Chelsea, but that his passing and technique would be a pleasant surprise. Instead, he's better at his strengths than I figured and worse at his weaknesses.

I doubt it will be under Van Gaal, but does anyone else think he's got everything you need to be a great CB? Strong, quick, physical and can play a long pass. Not sure about his reading of the game or how long it would take him to adjust but that's where he would play for Barca or Bayern and I think he'd be pretty damn good in that kind of role.
 
NoPace said:
I assumed he'd be a little less mobile and physical than he seemed when he was so good against Chelsea, but that his passing and technique would be a pleasant surprise. Instead, he's better at his strengths than I figured and worse at his weaknesses.

I doubt it will be under Van Gaal, but does anyone else think he's got everything you need to be a great CB? Strong, quick, physical and can play a long pass. Not sure about his reading of the game or how long it would take him to adjust but that's where he would play for Barca or Bayern and I think he'd be pretty damn good in that kind of role.
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Nail on head for me. Hope he can improve his passing, but it's hardly a given,
 
United again! said:
This season? I've not even seen his second half in the Liverpool match but Schneiderlin has been worlds ahead of Carrick/BFS this season.
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Yeah this season. I think a midfield two of Carrick and Schwein is a lot better than having Schneiderlin in there.

Carrick has a lot more quality about him.
 
Attila said:
Yeah this season. I think a midfield two of Carrick and Schwein is a lot better than having Schneiderlin in there.

Carrick has a lot more quality about him.
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That doesn't discount Carrick from being pretty dire at the start of the season and BFS having obvious fitness struggles. The protection of the back four that MS gives goes unnoticed because there is no real way to quantify it with something tangible.
 
United again! said:
That doesn't discount Carrick from being pretty dire at the start of the season and BFS having obvious fitness struggles. The protection of the back four that MS gives goes unnoticed because there is no real way to quantify it with something tangible.
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Schweinsteigher and Carrick's best performances this season have been streets ahead of Schneiderlin imo. Early days but he needs to learn how to pass better. Not sure if he has that in his locker though
 
United again! said:
That doesn't discount Carrick from being pretty dire at the start of the season and BFS having obvious fitness struggles. The protection of the back four that MS gives goes unnoticed because there is no real way to quantify it with something tangible.
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There is, with tackles and interceptions and in the opening 3 games Schneiderlin was our or one of our best in those departments so he is having a very quiet but important effect on stability in the side, more so than Carrick so far IMHO.
 
Attila said:
Schweinsteigher and Carrick's best performances this season have been streets ahead of Schneiderlin imo. Early days but he needs to learn how to pass better. Not sure if he has that in his locker though
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Fair enough, we disagree. He's not there to pass incredibly well and he hasn't passed badly at all in any case. I did see after one of the Brugge games people really got stuck into him about how terrible his passing is when he had about 3 or 4 bad passes and he had an accuracy of 90% which I thought was really reaching and uncalled for, maybe it is the same here? Maybe not.

In any case, I'm happy to agree to disagree.
 
United again! said:
Fair enough, we disagree. He's not there to pass incredibly well and he hasn't passed badly at all in any case. I did see after one of the Brugge games people really got stuck into him about how terrible his passing is when he had about 3 or 4 bad passes and he had an accuracy of 90% which I thought was really reaching and uncalled for, maybe it is the same here? Maybe not.

In any case, I'm happy to agree to disagree.
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He lacks the football brain of the other two I think. Ability wise Carrick and Schweinsteiger are still far ahead of Schneiderlin and I think there's lots of room for improvement for him.

Also if he's going to be playing in a midfield 2 for us then well he should learn to pass well and not freeze in the final third.
 
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Trizy said:
Grant it it's only a few games into the season but Carrick has been our worst midfielder up until today.
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Carrick was really good when he come on against Newcastle. Direct forward passing with a purpose
 
Midfield options :)

Plus hes a different type of midfielder than what weve got or had for a while which is a plus. I think it was the right decision not to start him today but to bring him on when we did.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
I agree with this.

His awareness when we're in possession on the ball and off the ball are poor. Schweinsteiger-Carrick together defensively are easily good enough.
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To be fair this was a really tame Liverpool midfield. Schweinsteiger and Carrick both played very well but don't expect them to be able to consistently dominate against your Crystal Palaces, West Hams, Evertons etc. There was not much intensity, composure and/or fight in that Liverpool midfield (which extended to their forward play too).

Schneiderlin will have to learn to be more disciplined and positionally aware (as does Herrera at times) but he's got some great team mates to learn from.
 
criticalanalysis said:
To be fair this was a really tame Liverpool midfield. Schweinsteiger and Carrick both played very well but don't expect them to be able to consistently dominate against your Crystal Palaces, West Hams, Evertons etc. There was not much intensity, composure and/or fight in that Liverpool midfield (which extended to their forward play too).
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This is the big thing, Carrick could run matches like yesterday without Schweinsteiger or Schneiderlin. The problem has always been with the high tempo physical mid-fields like Everton, Crystal Palace etc. Those are the matches Schneiderlin will be needed because Schweinsteiger isn't going to solve it. When teams sit off, and allow us to play a slow game then there is no need for Schneiderlin but most teams don't allow that.
 
I personally think Schneiderlin is better as a 4, being behind 2 more advanced CM's would suit him best, but he is very good in a 2 as well. The only time he struggles I find is when a team is sitting back deeper, he hasn't got much experience with unlocking defences like that. When he came on though he added great energy and steely tackling. It's nice to have Carrick/Schweinsteiger/Schneiderlin all at a high level, they all seem to work well together it doesn't matter which 1 starts which is great for rotation.
 
limerickcitykid said:
This is the big thing, Carrick could run matches like yesterday without Schweinsteiger or Schneiderlin. The problem has always been with the high tempo physical mid-fields like Everton, Crystal Palace etc.
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I'm not sure about that. Maybe in the past but not the Carrick of today. Carrick certainly played very well but he had Schweinsteiger, who was essentially doing the running for both of them.

Against PSV, who I believe were a very counter attacking team last season (but obviously they've lost big big players in Depay and Wijnaldum) I'd expect Schneiderlin to start. Maybe give Schweinsteiger a rest after what 3 consecutive 90+ min games now?
 
Should of came on today for Mata who was struggling and pushed Herrera forward. Against teams who are just going to sit and try to get us on the counter Morgan should always play.
 
Bwuk said:
Should of came on today for Mata who was struggling and pushed Herrera forward. Against teams who are just going to sit and try to get us on the counter Morgan should always play.
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He should play frequently. We need his tenacity and industry through the middle seeing as we are only conceding goals on the counter late in matches. By this point Basti and Carrick seem knackered.
 
I know we have quality now in midfield(I love saying that) but I feel Schneiderlin has been fantastic with the job his done. Before we bought him he wasn't known for his passing so I don't get why its expected of him now? Is that the reason his been dropped??
 
No idea why he hasn't been playing, it makes no sense to not play the one young energetic proper defensive DM that we have regularly.
 
It'd be interesting to hear LVG's reasoning behind dropping him. I'm not having a pop at LVG or anything, it would just be genuinely interesting.
 
Doubt he's going to say much. Doubt he's even going to be asked. He has been guilty of giving away the ball cheaply. That might be a reason.
 
We finally have some great midfield options for rotation.

We cant play Carrick, BFS, Schneiderman & Hererra every game especially if Mata takes the #10 spot.

Unfortunately for Schneiderman, Hererra has been performing at a higher level in an attacking sense, and defensively LVG seems to trust Carrick & BFS more.
 
We look so much more secure at the back with Schneiderlin in front of them. He is one of the best tacklers I have ever seen, but can also pass well enough for a DM and has the energy to go from one box to another.

I'd play him as the deepest MF with BFS just in front of him.
 
No idea why he hasn't been playing? 3 doesn't go into 2.

If we dropped Carrick, it would be why isn't Carrick playing, if we drop Schweinsteiger, it would be why isn't he playing. Now it's Schneiderlin. Can't play all 3 at once. I think he has been very good and want to see him play as much as possible but it's a long season and he will feature regularly.
 
LvG rightly expected that Liverpool will field a defensive lineup whereby it made no sense to field Schneiderlin. Without defensive work, we could rather play 2 pass masters not that good at tackles than a tackler without passing abilities.

PSV is a team where LvG has never won as a manager according to him so I reckon he went all out attacking so that he can win there once before his retirement. Mistake maybe but understandable. Fully think LvG rates him very highly and he has done the exact job he was bought for. The fact that we play with 2 shows LvG was aware of his passing weaknesses.
 
HabeasC said:
We look so much more secure at the back with Schneiderlin in front of them. He is one of the best tacklers I have ever seen, but can also pass well enough for a DM and has the energy to go from one box to another.

I'd play him as the deepest MF with BFS just in front of him.
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Schneiderlin closes down pretty high up the pitch, that is his game.

He will never play as the deepest midfielder under LVG.
 
I think he is being trained to learn LVG's philosophy and that's why has he has featured much less. To be fair he has seemed a little out of touch with other team members in the last few games and maybe this is being ironed out. I have no doubts that he would have a good season though, similar to Herrera last season.

I actually wish that LVG takes Darmian out of the firing line a bit too, he has been going downhill a bit steadily. No harm in playing Valencia for a couple of matches IMO.
 
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He was quietly good today, I just feel he needs to release the ball quicker at times but no complains otherwise, very solid against a good midfield.
 
Played his way into the game and I think helped Smalling out as almost an extra CB as we got our footing in the game.
 
He was excellent today, we suffered in these kind of games last year. Solid signing and address what we exactly needed. LvG has a specialist now as he puts it.
 
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