Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea

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A lot will depend on who we sell, but it's been well reported that the budget is probably just north of £100m due to FFP restrictions, as it stands.

Well that gets Onana & Mount,however really hope it isn't that low and Athletic have it wrong just like ESPN last summer
 
Thats before any player departures/sales though.

FFP restrictions are well overblown.

I did say it depends on who we sell. Shift Henderson and McT for decent fees and it opens up a lot more funds because they're from the academy.
 
Thats before any player departures/sales though.

FFP restrictions are well overblown.

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They mean a new owner wouldn't have been able to go on a mega-splurge even if they'd been in place to do so. But we'll still likely end up spending about what we do in an average summer transfer window.
 
A lot will depend on who we sell, but it's been well reported that the budget is probably just north of £100m due to FFP restrictions, as it stands.

It was reported £100-£150 million plus sales and Kieran Maguire said with certain realistic sales we could have £250 million.
 
If it’s a negotiating tactic for Mount, first time I’ve seen us do that. If we’re actually interested in him, then quite strange that we move from Mount to Caicedo given the differences in their profiles.
 
We could have got this kid for £5m a few years back. Just like United to f-k that up and end up getting him for £85m.

Ah well, at least we actually need a midfielder like Caicedo. Still have no idea what we'd do with Mount.
 
If we won’t pay for Mount, I don’t think we’ll splash more on this guy. We have to think that we still want a ST and a keeper. Caicedo will probably cost 70-90m.
 
bUt hEs nOt tHe sAmE pRoFiLe.

I reckon ten Hag might have more than one way to play. Good if we actually have pulled out. Hope we have just because of principle. And Chelsea come to us asking us for our previous offer. If not, let's move on and get Caicedo.
 
bUt hEs nOt tHe sAmE pRoFiLe.

I reckon ten Hag might have more than one way to play. Good if we actually have pulled out. Hope we have just because of principle. And Chelsea come to us asking us for our previous offer. If not, let's move on and get Caicedo.
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I mean just look at his Ajax teams it's pretty clear he can change it up when he has different kind of players
 
If it’s a negotiating tactic for Mount, first time I’ve seen us do that. If we’re actually interested in him, then quite strange that we move from Mount to Caicedo given the differences in their profiles.

Yea i think that is what it is.
 
It's pretty damn simple, sell Fred or McTominay, whichever is quicker. Replace with Caicedo.

Massive instant improvement.
 
If it’s a negotiating tactic for Mount, first time I’ve seen us do that. If we’re actually interested in him, then quite strange that we move from Mount to Caicedo given the differences in their profiles.
I hope not because I don’t rate Mount and I really rate Caicedo

But it seems possible. Saying we’ll be going after their #1 midfield target, who supports us, will probably apply pressure to them to sell Mount
 
Seems like we’ve briefed it so we don’t look like mugs after yesterdays “final offer”.
 
If it’s a negotiating tactic for Mount, first time I’ve seen us do that. If we’re actually interested in him, then quite strange that we move from Mount to Caicedo given the differences in their profiles.
This is something a club like Chelsea would do and I have little to no hope of it actually happening. However, if it did...

The only other time we've done something like this is when Madrid were being dicks on the Morata deal and out of nowhere, we signed Lukaku.
 
Lets for fun believe its true, and it is somewhat of a tactic to show Chelsea they are not going to be held for ransom over Mount.

Does that not all fall apart when Brighton would want close to 80 million for Caicedo? Chelsea would just say, if you have 80 million spare then you obviously could afford 60+ for Mount.
 
If we won’t pay for Mount, I don’t think we’ll splash more on this guy. We have to think that we still want a ST and a keeper. Caicedo will probably cost 70-90m.

They're different situations though. Mount has a year left on his deal, while Caicedo just signed a new deal. Chelsea moved on Kovacic to City for £30m quickly but assumed they could get United to pay £65m for Mount because United have been largely inept in the transfer market for years. It would make more sense to pay £70-80m for Caicedo than £60m for Mount.
 
This would be a lot better than mount but we will probably cave to Chelsea in the end
 
Lets for fun believe its true, and it is somewhat of a tactic to show Chelsea they are not going to be held for ransom over Mount.

Does that not all fall apart when Brighton would want close to 80 million for Caicedo? Chelsea would just say, if you have 80 million spare then you obviously could afford 60+ for Mount.

Mount has a year left and won't renew, while Caicedo just signed a new extension. Chelsea can get £55m or nothing for Mount, while Brighton have more leverage for Caicedo.
 
Lets for fun believe its true, and it is somewhat of a tactic to show Chelsea they are not going to be held for ransom over Mount.

Does that not all fall apart when Brighton would want close to 80 million for Caicedo? Chelsea would just say, if you have 80 million spare then you obviously could afford 60+ for Mount.

That's not how it works though. United could afford to pay £120m for Mount. Chelsea valued Kovacic, last year of contract, at £30m, when dealing with City.

Caicedo is not in the last year, Brighton have a much stronger hand than Chelsea.
 
Lets for fun believe its true, and it is somewhat of a tactic to show Chelsea they are not going to be held for ransom over Mount.

Does that not all fall apart when Brighton would want close to 80 million for Caicedo? Chelsea would just say, if you have 80 million spare then you obviously could afford 60+ for Mount.

It’s about how you value the players. Chelsea were OK paying £105M for Enzo but they for damn sure weren’t going to pay up if for example Sporting wanted £80M for Ugarte.
 
Let's see if we actually offer for him. He's brilliant IMO, hope it goes through and next year take Mount on free.
 
Move quickly for him and we get it done. Can’t risk dithering and making it a bidding war with other sides. Cause we lose and then come back and pay even more for Mount.
 
We could have got this kid for £5m a few years back. Just like United to f-k that up and end up getting him for £85m.

Ah well, at least we actually need a midfielder like Caicedo. Still have no idea what we'd do with Mount.

As could any team in the world, yet there are a number of them prepared to spend big money on him. We could have had RKM for free last year. We could have had Hoijland for 17m last year. If you go back far enough, we could have gotten almost anyone for less than their peak value. Get over it.
 
Isn't Caicedo a United fan? Or was that not true?
I really hope this is true.. I wouldve liked either him or Rice.
 
Caicedo over Mount for me. The new Kanté. A Casemiro/Caicedo double-pivot would be a brilliant foundation for a team to go forward from.
 
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