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Moises Caicedo | Chelsea agree £115M fee | signed for Chelsea
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Exactly what I think. It’s a bit surprising to me that people are thinking about caicedo like he’s world class set in stone. I’m very skeptical about him. He’s good that I agree but not this amazing midfielder many are talking about. I think he’s hugely overpriced.
That's simply my own personal opinion based on what I've read, which I thought I made clear.
But if it needs to be moved or deleted by mods then I apologise.
Any chance he's joining us? We seem skint so I'm assuming no? Would be a real bummer
And guess who Brighton play against next? Fecking jammy cnuts.
Well pretty much every big pl club is tracking him, there was never anything like that much interest in bissouma even when his contract was running down
There was a very significant other factor at play with that
Brighton furious!?
They have gotten £90m just from Trossard & Cucurella alone, two average players...
Did your club expect to win 3 league titles or a CL or what are they "furious" about?
These absurd fees they are getting from these players will secure the clubs economical standings for years to come if not decade. If they now get £70m for Caicedo that's £160m for 3 players!!
Most clubs of that size would dream to be in Bringhton position with all the financial & economical issues these days.
I think any club rightfully would be pissed off if a player openly releases that kind of message, regardless of the potential transfer fee.
I’d have liked to get him back when he was a 5m player but I’m okay missing out on him at the prices he seems to be going for now.
The main factor here is that he's 21. He's good now, but he could be a lot better in 2 or 3 seasons and then he can serve a club for a long time. He can already compete for the ball well in midfield and pass it about. And he's capable of out performing Xhaka for Arsenal or Jorginho for Chelsea, and Kante has barely played this season and could be off.
It’s only the injunction that’s allowing Arsenal fans the chance to play him and act as if it’s normal practice. No injunction and the pressure the club would be under would be ridiculous.
That’s another thing, injunctions don’t apply to Ireland and this is an Irish forum. Unless I’m missing something this place is being too careful
Gone on strike it seems
So for example if at the end of the year a judge decides that Mason is innocent, could be the case, United have effectively fecked his career with the two year suspension. It's a highly competitive environment, you can't sit out for two years and not allowed to train with the team with just allegations. Innocent until proven guilty. So let the man train and play, if it can be proven he's guilty, throw the book at him, but enough of this nonsense which is going on at the minute. Arsenal are doing right by the player. Players should take notice who they're signing up with.
Can't see any other outcome than him going Arsenal.
Sad that you have that attitude as some things are much bigger than football.
United and Everton, in my opinion, have done the right thing.
Would much rather Chelsea
Completely agree. Can we just erase that guy from the books as soon as possible.
Yep they should, and if a club I was signing for was making me play alongside a potential sex offender then I wouldn't want to play for them.
I wonder what his colleagues think?
Ultimately, football isn't everything and there is no perfect right answer, but not having a potential sex offender in your team feels like the lesser of all evils to me, but that's just me.
P.s. I am not into discussion = will not reply back.
That’s very easy for a supporter of a big club to say and pass off, the point is it doesn’t happen to you. Your club and other big clubs do it with no consequence.
There are clear rules against it but rich clubs like yours have made it so common place that no one enforces it.
It’s one of the many reasons big clubs stay big and small clubs stay small, no matter how well we scout, operate, develop etc.
So I totally understand fans like ours being a bit pissed off about it, when Arsenal or Chelsea come knocking.
Luckily there's a recording of the Greenwood case so that's enough to suspend him, even if he gets found not guilty because he can afford a good lawyer would you really want that playing for our club? He's fecked his own career.
If he changed his agent, it was probably for this very reason. He's a grown adult, he knows what he wants.
These kind of statements never work usually. Interestingly, RVP to Utd was one of the only times it worked out in favour of the player.
It absolutely happens to Chelsea and pretty much all big clubs. You don't think Real Madrid were chatting with Courtois, Rudiger or Hazard? Barca with Christensen?
You dont think Brighton spoke with Lamptey before they got Chelsea's permission?
Of course I get why you're pissed off but this happens all the time.
So desperate so he can win the league. Would be a shame if it comes crashing down.
Fair enough, just different views, no problem.
You said it yourself, potentially. Personally, i'm just fed up with how long it's been taking to make the case. These allegations are of course of a serious nature, however not being allowed to train and play for probably years to come without a verdict, doesn't sit right with me. Until there's a verdict, one should be treated as innocent just as the law states. Your colleagues have to respect the process. Therefore i can respect Arsenal's way of doing things.
Different point of view, just wanted to say my things. I'm sorry if i offended anyone!
Did you listen to the recordings at all? Don't need a judge to tell me what I already know.
Massive shame
Hope he stays until the summer. Could do with him as an option in the summer
(*assuming the club have no Glazers and/or PE investors in charge)
(*assuming the club have no Glazers and/or PE investors in charge)
I don't think they'll be too upset about Cucurella or Trossard in isolation but there comes a point where there's more value in keeping a player than weakening your team by having the best players cherry picked every transfer window.Brighton furious!?
They have gotten £90m just from Trossard & Cucurella alone, two average players...
Did your club expect to win 3 league titles or a CL or what are they "furious" about?
These absurd fees they are getting from these players will secure the clubs economical standings for years to come if not decade. If they now get £70m for Caicedo that's £160m for 3 players!!
Most clubs of that size would dream to be in Bringhton position with all the financial & economical issues these days.
When teams start taking your best players in the January window, that sets a dangerous precedent. They're in an awkward position where their players now seem to think if they kick up enough of a fuss, they'll get their move. There's only so many times you can go to the well, and you'd only expect this to continue in the summer when players like MacAllister will be in high demand.
This is a rotten approach.
Caicedo's statement talks about the respect for Bloom and the club, but where's the respect in that statement and going on strike today? Does he not see the difficulty he puts the club in by doing this before the window shuts? So what if they get 70/80m, Brighton can't spend that on a replacement now. And they're 6th, their best ever season in the PL, and Europe could be a real possibility. There will still be strong interest (and possibly more choice for potential buyers) in the summer.
@The Boy what are your thoughts on how this will turn out? Personally think (and hope) Brighton stand firm and don't sell in this window.
Part of me hopes Caicedo has been poorly advised by his new agency, but he's still the one who has the final say in the instagram post and not turning up to training. What a fecking shame.
Caicedo's statement talks about the respect for Bloom and the club, but where's the respect in that statement and going on strike today? Does he not see the difficulty he puts the club in by doing this before the window shuts? So what if they get 70/80m, Brighton can't spend that on a replacement now. And they're 6th, their best ever season in the PL, and Europe could be a real possibility. There will still be strong interest (and possibly more choice for potential buyers) in the summer.
@The Boy what are your thoughts on how this will turn out? Personally think (and hope) Brighton stand firm and don't sell in this window.
Part of me hopes Caicedo has been poorly advised by his new agency, but he's still the one who has the final say in the instagram post and not turning up to training. What a fecking shame.
Modern football is shit.
Isn't that what the court is for to decide? There's a process for doing these things the right way. Fair enough if he's proven guilty, give him the Adam Johnson treatment, just need an official verdict for that. In my opinion taking matters in your own hands and not respecting the person's right of being treated innocent until proven guilty, sets a dangerous precedent for future dealings and changes how people move outside.
Just my 2 cents.
They simply left it to late, BHA have no time to get a new player in and can do feck all with 80m waiting in the bank. Arsenal knew what they were doing. Hope Brighton play hardball on this one. It stinks.
Stand firm Brighton!
Hope Brighton manage to hold on to him until the summer, which might give us a chance, but it doesn’t look like it.
Brighton furious!?
They have gotten £90m just from Trossard & Cucurella alone, two average players...
Did your club expect to win 3 league titles or a CL or what are they "furious" about?
These absurd fees they are getting from these players will secure the clubs economical standings for years to come if not decade. If they now get £70m for Caicedo that's £160m for 3 players!!
Most clubs of that size would dream to be in Bringhton position with all the financial & economical issues these days.
Yep they should shut up and know their place, stupid Brighton. Bend over and let the bigger clubs take advantage.
it’s all very unsavory but sadly typical of football now.
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