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I think the position is absolutely we want Colwill (who is not for sale, so that’s a no-go), or £100m - which Chelsea aren’t willing to pay. Therefore he stays and Brighton fans rejoice - the player is next level and basically irreplaceable like-for-like.

From the club’s perspective, any of those three outcomes is a win. Speculation about future signings and agents demands and so forth is just that - speculation. The club won’t be concerned. The fact is if a player does well enough and matches the valuation we’ll sell, then invest in the next 3-4. It’s our model and the only way to be sustainable.

In the last few weeks alone we’ve signed a kid from Basingstoke, another from Ireland, one from Romania. All for under £4m. When the fee comes for Caicedo he’ll go, simple as. If there’s nobody buying, then he will run our midfield.
I wonder if Brighton would consider a straight swop, because they might sell Colwill for 100 million in a season or two.. and Caicedo is going to be unhappy if he is made to stay
 
Chelsea looking for 50m for Gallagher then 100m for Caicedo seems more than fair. I think he will go for 100m at the very least. I won't be surprised if it's a bit more than that in Enzo/Rice category.

Brighton said £150 million + for Caceido.

Bid of £40 million for Colwill was refused.

All other figures were journalist inventions?

Brighton have not yet replaced Mwepu like for like. Moder looks like he is still injured, so he cannot replace MacAllister. but other players may fit.
 
Brighton said £150 million + for Caceido.

Bid of £40 million for Colwill was refused.

All other figures were journalist inventions?

Brighton have not yet replaced Mwepu like for like. Moder looks like he is still injured, so he cannot replace MacAllister. but other players may fit.

40m bid for Gallagher also rejected.
Or is that aswell under journalist intervention category.
In a world where you reject 40m for Gallagher you cannot expect anything less than 80m (even 100m one would say) for Caicedo.
I get the Colwill not for sale thing. Maybe not next year but in a few years Colwill would be a more important player than Caicedo. Good left footed CBs are hard to find.
 
Seems like Brighton will only talk if Chelsea agree to put Colwill on the table, which we have refused to do, or pay £100M.

It’s time to walk away I think. Let him stay. Let’s find someone else.



Tbf if Havertz is worth 65 million, Gallagher 50 million then Caicedo should be 150 million.
 
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I wonder if Brighton would consider a straight swop, because they might sell Colwill for 100 million in a season or two.. and Caicedo is going to be unhappy if he is made to stay

I very much doubt that.
 
Did you just call £70m unreasonable? Are you for real? £70 fecking million is more than reasonable for a defensive midfielder.
Yes. When they turned down 70m from Arsenal last January, I’d say bidding twice (?). below that and only matching it now is unreasonable.
100m is high but so was 120m for Enzo from the same club not 6 months ago
 
Brighton losing both Mac Allister and Caicedo for a combined total of 100-110m would be awful.
 
Tbf if Havertz is worth 65 million, Gallagher 50 million then Caicedo should be 150 million.

I can see your logic but that's not how the market works. Caicedo has one suitor at the moment and it's Chelsea. Neither Arsenal or Chelsea have gone anywhere near Brighton's valuation across two windows.
 
I can see your logic but that's not how the market works. Caicedo has one suitor at the moment and it's Chelsea. Neither Arsenal or Chelsea have gone anywhere near Brighton's valuation across two windows.

I know it won't work like that. When you see some of the players signed in this window, I think Brighton will look for top deal.
 
I know it won't work like that. When you see some of the players signed in this window, I think Brighton will look for top deal.

Yeah they will, and they're not desperate to sell, so they'd be perfectly fine with Chelsea walking away knowing if he stays another season he'll most likely have big clubs knocking on their door again in January or next summer. Injuries permitting, of course.
 
Even if they do get him they are screwed don't have a midfield, what's that now, Kovacic, Mount, RLC, Bakayoko, Havertz, Kante and soon to be Gallagher? Jeez
 
Even if they do get him they are screwed don't have a midfield, what's that now, Kovacic, Mount, RLC, Bakayoko, Havertz, Kante and soon to be Gallagher? Jeez

They have Fernandez, Santos, Cacadei, and Chukwuemeka, all young mind you but all talented
 
Even if they do get him they are screwed don't have a midfield, what's that now, Kovacic, Mount, RLC, Bakayoko, Havertz, Kante and soon to be Gallagher? Jeez
Kante injured for most last season.

Kovasic mostly sh!t last season.

Rlc mostly used as wing back and when he played in midfield mostly sh!t.

Mount and havertz not played in our central midfield.

Bakayoko :lol: :lol: :lol: he last played for us when we won FA Cup against you under conte.

Gallagher not good enough to play in two man midfield. If right offer comes he will go.
 
Caceido = Colwill + £60million = unwanted compromise. Brighton want both players.
Wouldnt surprise me if Colwill turns up to be the better player so id be surprised if this went through.
 
Seems like Brighton will only talk if Chelsea agree to put Colwill on the table, which we have refused to do, or pay £100M.

It’s time to walk away I think. Let him stay. Let’s find someone else.


Chelsea fans crying about the fee Brighton is asking when they sell a donkey like Havertz for 65. Behave.
 
Even if they do get him they are screwed don't have a midfield, what's that now, Kovacic, Mount, RLC, Bakayoko, Havertz, Kante and soon to be Gallagher? Jeez
We are better off without them..it was all going stale, Kante was injured all the time and Mount was unhappy, we have some really interesting youngsters now and I am just looking forward to seeing what happens. We REALLY need a good goalkeeper though.and hopefully Cacadei gets a lot of gametime he wouldn't have got otherwise, he looks great so far.
 
I wish we’d move on from this deal, I can’t understand why we’re still pursuing it. He’s had one good season and they want £90m+? We’ve been burnt by a Brighton flop that we massively overpaid for once already. In my mind he’s worth £70m at most, and once it became clear that Brighton weren’t going to budge from their price (which is entirely within their rights), we should’ve started looking at other targets. This fixation on Caicedo seems to have stalled every other move, not really sure what Winstanley is playing at.

We’d be much better served looking for an alternative midfielder in the £50m range, and spending the remainder on a keeper imo. As it stands we’re going into the season with Kepa as first choice once again. I can’t see how he won’t end up costing us points.
 
Seems like we are looking after caicedo alternative. Hicham boudaoui from nice will be cheaper 20-30 mn alternative and rumour is recommended by pochettino himself. Player s admirer from his PSG coaching days. Thank you Brighton. You keep caicedo. Hopefully we are done with you.
 
I personally think it’s disgraceful how multi-billionaires Brighton have so cruelly bullied those loveable underdogs at Chelsea. They really want Caicedo but we are being so unfair. They asked really nicely and promised to do all their chores and clean their bedroom every day. *stomps feet*
 
I personally think it’s disgraceful how multi-billionaires Brighton have so cruelly bullied those loveable underdogs at Chelsea. They really want Caicedo but we are being so unfair. They asked really nicely and promised to do all their chores and clean their bedroom every day. *stomps feet*

Where is this energy coming from? :lol: You’re entitled to demand whatever you want, Chelsea are entitled to try and negotiate a better deal or walk away if it is deemed too much.
 
Seems like we are looking after caicedo alternative. Hicham boudaoui from nice will be cheaper 20-30 mn alternative and rumour is recommended by pochettino himself. Player s admirer from his PSG coaching days. Thank you Brighton. You keep caicedo. Hopefully we are done with you.

Where have you seen this? I see French Chelsea fans online rave about him but I don’t think I’ve watched a single Nice game myself so I have no clue if the hype is justified. Would you say he’s a good Caicedo alternative? @JPRouve
 
Where have you seen this? I see French Chelsea fans online rave about him but I don’t think I’ve watched a single Nice game myself so I have no clue if the hype is justified. Would you say he’s a good Caicedo alternative? @JPRouve

It's not a player that I have noticed. I heard his name, I watched many games that he played but I have no clue about who and what he is.
 
Where is this energy coming from? :lol: You’re entitled to demand whatever you want, Chelsea are entitled to try and negotiate a better deal or walk away if it is deemed too much.



#freecaicedo on Twitter is one of the most amusing things I’ve seen for ages ;) bit embarrassing, no?
 
It's not a player that I have noticed. I heard his name, I watched many games that he played but I have no clue about who and what he is.

Fair enough. Thanks. What about Gourna-Douath? You know anything about him? He’s another I’ve seen touted as a Caicedo alternative.
 


#freecaicedo on Twitter is one of the most amusing things I’ve seen for ages ;) bit embarrassing, no?


Oh, twitter shenanigans. To be fair, #freecolwill was a thing for while among Brighton fans. It’s a cesspool of edgy kids trying to get a rise of each other. What’s the Galatasaray thing about?
 
Where have you seen this? I see French Chelsea fans online rave about him but I don’t think I’ve watched a single Nice game myself so I have no clue if the hype is justified. Would you say he’s a good Caicedo alternative? @JPRouve
His stats similar to caicedo. My mate from uk have said this as insider information that pochettino got frustrated with caicedo saga and recommended him as alternative.

He rarely say things but if says so mostly proved right. We may be selling Gallagher so why. Even if we add caicedo boudaoui will be signed anyway.
 
Fair enough. Thanks. What about Gourna-Douath? You know anything about him? He’s another I’ve seen touted as a Caicedo alternative.

An alternative for Chelsea? From the little I have seen, he is way too green, he shouldn't leave Salzburg that early and if he does it should be to a smaller club than Chelsea.
 
An alternative for Chelsea? From the little I have seen, he is way too green, he shouldn't leave Salzburg that early and if he does it should be to a smaller club than Chelsea.

Yeah, for Chelsea. Fair enough. I’ll take the hype with a pinch of salt then :lol:
 
Oh, twitter shenanigans. To be fair, #freecolwill was a thing for while among Brighton fans. It’s a cesspool of edgy kids trying to get a rise of each other. What’s the Galatasaray thing about?

I also asked this. The majority of fans of the top clubs on Twitter are guys from Asia and Africa, however Chelsea apparently has a “connection“ with Galatasaray. Still can’t get a straight answer why. Jokingly, some Brighton supporting wags cited our own (fictional) “connection” to Fenerbache, asking them to support a #freecolwill campaign.

It’s all shenanigans, as you say, and part and parcel of being a global club. The majority of people posting ignorant rubbish in these Twitter threads have never visited the continent of Europe, let alone attended a game at Stamford Bridge.
 
My gut feeling has always been that a deal will eventually get done at £90M including all add-ons.
 
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