Barcelona fans can just feck off with their holier than thou attitude.
I still don't understand why you're counting players returning from loan and new signings together.
What is your point, anyway? That Chelsea sends too many players on loan? We can do whatever we feel is right for us. Unlike Barcelona, we can't field our reserve team as a club in a second division, so we have to look for other ways for players to get experience and develop.
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It's easy to criticise but remember English clubs don't have a b team system like Spanish clubs. The only way for a young talent to get game time is to loan them to another club.
We should buy this fella too...transfer muppets ahoy!!
It's fairly straightforward, player movement. Chelsea move players back & forth every season like no other club. Personally, there should be a cap on player movement and squad size.
You'd be happy to get rid of Barca B then?
Only if Barcelona B were somehow a 1st team squad, which they aren't. Guess that means there's no such thing as the Premier Academy or Reserve leagues eh?
There's no reserve league anymore. We have an under 21 league which is nowhere near the standard of the second tier of Spanish football and is barley competitive at all. Most of the games are like training sessions.
If we could have a Chelsea B in the championship it would be comparable.
You forgot Hleb too.
Have you seen Barcelona B play under Eusebio?
Our B team are all U21 with the exception of a few, it's quite comparable. Moreover, fielding a team to play in the Championship as a 'B' team would be more sensible than bankrolling a massive squad and loaning them to other Premiership sides - again, killing competition. Just saying, there should be limits.
We are not allowed to have "B" teams in England which is why we send our young players on loan. You have just as many (probably more) young players bankrolled but they are in your B team.
The B teams are a big advantage for Madrid/Barca compared to the way it's done here.
I agree.
If that's the strategy Chelsea want to go with, and they can afford it, then that's their tactic. I really find this whole "high moral ground" shit that football fans do really bizarre. Which player is Chelsea forcing to join them? They're not doing anything immoral or wrong IMO, it's just the tactic they think will produce the best results for them.
That's been my view as well.
The only thing I'd say it's funny when Chelsea fans or managers moan about their lack of depth when they have about 100 players on loan.
He's off to Roma on loan, they have an option to buy him at the end of the season for €17m. Should never have joined Chelsea in the first place. I think he'll have a hard time getting a starting spot, given they've already got Ljajic performing well, Iturbe, Gervinho, and Florenzi...
Only 17 million euros?
Was expecting 35-40.
Was expecting 35-40.
How do Chelsea do this? 17m after he's barely gotten a look in for about a year?
Schurrle will go for double that, whilst we're paying to send on loan a winger who was once better than either of these two will ever be.
17m euros is what, £12 odd million? So basically what thy paid for him.
Euros
With Nani we made a mistake (or maybe not if we sell him for better money because of the loan, or keep him), but with Zaha we are making money and if we sell him all of that should give a small profit.
And we will see for how much Schurrle is going, but it does help Chelsea that Wolfsburg wants him now to help them during this season and Chelsea doesn't really have cover for that RW position and doesn't have to sell.
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How are we making money with Zaha?
As far as I know both loan deals were paid for, 1 mil and 1,5 mil, I think, plus if there is a clause it is reported to be about 8,5 mil. Now, if these numbers are correct even if we sell him to Palace for that money we will make 500K (both teams paid his wages). We have paid 10 mil plus 5 dependable on apps, which he never got at United.
Of course, all this if the numbers are correct.
I forgot about the fact that both Palace and Cardiff paid for the loans actually.
I will be shocked if we get £8.5m for Zaha.
He is playing OK and 8,5mil isn't really much money.
6 goals in 7 matches for Fiorentina.
Buy Salah and De Bruyne.
Wouldn't surprise me if he's another Sturridge. Whenever he did made a rare appearance for Chelsea he looked like he was trying to hard too impress, making the wrong decisions, and looking a bit rubbish, a bit like Sturridge did. Hopefully Chelsea sell him on before they realise he might actually turn out to be a more dangerous RW/forward than Willian or Cuadrado.
Sturridge didn't look great for us because he was played out of position on the wing.
Buy all of Chelsea's ex players; Schurlle, De Bruyne, Salah.
I'm sure they'll fit nice with Mata.
I'm sure they'll fit nice with Mata.
That and he never passed the ball. Always trying to dribble his way through when a)he never used his right foot so was easily marshaled away by defenders b) runs with the ball like he was playing in slow motion c) somehow would dribble his way away from the final third
Salah won me 70 quid last night. I had laid Juventus at 1-1!
Too early to say if it was the wrong or right decision yet, but hes certainly looking twice the player he was with us already. Apparently we may get around 25 million for him now.
Too early to say if it was the wrong or right decision yet, but hes certainly looking twice the player he was with us already. Apparently we may get around 25 million for him now.
It's not a big deal from Chelsea's perspective either way as Willian is a better player. You guys tried him out, he didn't really fit what you wanted and he moved on. Doesn't mean he was ever a bad player.
I'm still not sure Chelsea ever really wanted him for more than to prick Liverpool about.
If I'm not mistaken, it had to do with Mata leaving for United. Mourinho okayed the deal, provided he was getting another attacking midfielder to bolster the squad, so we quickly moved for Salah. It was always a long shot he was going to become a starter for Chelsea and when given a chance, he looked out of his depth. Perhaps his great start at Fiorentina is more to do with how poor Serie A has become rather than how good Salah really is.
Hmmm, perhaps pricking Liverpool about was merely a bonus.
As for his start at Fiorentina, this is true, could also be that he just fits their system better too.
His buyout clause is 18M. Fiorentina will pay that if he keeps up the good work.