De Bruyne wanted to leave though and despite Mourinho starting him instead of Mata at the beginning of the season, he isnt playing often enough to be worth keeping if hes unhappy.
De Bruyne wanted to leave though and despite Mourinho starting him instead of Mata at the beginning of the season, he isnt playing often enough to be worth keeping if hes unhappy.
I've always liked the look of him when I've seen him play.
This is a dream scenario really - we get Mata so Chelsea get Salah. Speaks volumes that it's taken. Liverpool about a fortnight to try and get the deal done but Chelsea step in and snap him up straight away. Liverpool
This is a dream scenario really - we get Mata so Chelsea get Salah. Speaks volumes that it's taken. Liverpool about a fortnight to try and get the deal done but Chelsea step in and snap him up straight away. Liverpool
This is his twitter from yesterday:
No idea what Brentan is talking about. The lad seems happy with moving to Chelsea and I doubt Liverpool can offer him something more than Chelsea 'personal terms' wise except promise of more game minutes.
No idea what Brentan is talking about. The lad seems happy with moving to Chelsea and I doubt Liverpool can offer him something more than Chelsea 'personal terms' wise except promise of more game minutes.
Brenton can take Young off us if he wants a winger.
How good can he be if he costs £11m and prior to this week he was heading for Liverpool?
I've never seen him play but surely if he was "the next Messi" he'd have more than two English clubs (only one 'top tier', if we go by CL qualification) circling around him for what is a quite modest price in the modern game?
I've never seen him play but surely if he was "the next Messi" he'd have more than two English clubs (only one 'top tier', if we go by CL qualification) circling around him for what is a quite modest price in the modern game?
He's a good young winger with a lot of potential.
If I was him I'd head to Liverpool. Sadly it's all about wages these days isn't it?
High wages, less game time and a more restrictive style....or less wages (but still massive), more game times and a more expressive style...
Mourinho could really restrict him.
High wages, less game time and a more restrictive style....or less wages (but still massive), more game times and a more expressive style...
Mourinho could really restrict him.
He has interesting qualities (rapid, direct running, aggressive closing down and does a pretty good job tracking back and has scored a couple of goals against Chelsea in recent seasons) and he's young. And obviously Chelsea fans would like to spin it that although they are losing Mata, they are replacing him with a great talent. He's obviously not another Hazard or something, but then Chelsea can't have a squad full of them or else they'll ask to leave for a rival team when they arent being picked
What's wrong with loaning young players out to get experience and prove their worth? What's wrong with having a deep squad and a good bench? You make it look like someone stole those players and forced them into slavery. It's up to them to accept the offer or turn it down just like it's up to them to convince Mourinho they deserve a place in the squad.
I'm sure, there are players, who didn't enjoy their time at Barca, just like there are players, who felt the same at Chelsea, Man United or any other club. Take your head out of your own ass and smell the reality. Barcelona aren't the angels of virtue you proclaim them to be, and the most recent scandal, that resulted in Rossell's resignation is another example of it.
You're spinning for billionaire tactics that kill competition
Mind you, this is just for 2013/2014:
Incoming (18) - Matic, Traore, Eto'O, Atsu, Willian, Perica, Cuevas, Schwarzer, Van Ginkel, Schürrle, Bruma, Davila, Essien, Delac, Kalas, De Bruyne, Wallace & Piazon
For total of €107 million, not including the value of loanees
Outgoing - Too long to list but no less than 35 names
For total of €29 million, not including loanees or Mata's possible transfer
It's ludicrous the goings on at that club and it's not as if this is the first season it has gone on
Sure there are players who weren't ultimately happy but no one was bought to hijack their move elsewhere or to plant on loan or bench to stockpile 2 squads. There are only a few clubs with that distinction and it began with your club. But sure, deflect all you like - denial eventually leads to acceptance
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This might be true, but the likes of Ibrahimovic were bought not because of the type of player they was, but the type of signing. Showing muscle, if you'd like. A political signing.
Often forgotten that Ibra was a panic buy once Villa was made unavailable by Valencia, always go with your first instincts. And Ibrahimovic was productive at Barcelona, rather than sat on a bench or loaned out somewhere.
What about Chygrynskyi, for instance? Big money signing who's warming the bench.
Or Song? "Ah, feck it, let's take him as well".
Barcelona do this as well. This holier than thou-attitude that Barca fans always seem to display is pissing me off, when your own club is dodgy as feck (Neymar deal being the latest example)
Or those Brazaillian chaps kierrson and Henrqiue who never even played for Barca
Bought for 25, played and sold back at 15 for a loss of 10 a year later...not sanctioned by Pep, who wanted to keep him, but by Sandro Rosell. A player who was brought in to be a part of the regular rotation but failed miserably. Hardly equates to stockpiling unnecessary talent to make 2 squads, does it?
Song brought in when Barcelona couldn't sign Javi Martinez and intended to use him both as a CB & midfielder. He failed at CB, despite Wenger claiming he could play there, and is a regular rotation player in midfield. Will be sold in all likelihood.
Keep trying to provide actual evidence rather than manufacture innuendo to back up the claim that Barcelona stockpiles talent and kill competition that even remotely resembles Chelsea.
In terms of Spain - Barca and Real are doing excactly what you're accusing Chelsea of. Stockpiling talents to avoid other clubs having them.
Of course, the need to actually buy them isn't that great when you've got a core of Messi, Iniesta and Xavi brought through the academy, but you still sign the likes of Villa and waste him on the wing, you sign Fabregas and play him as a false nine, you sign Alba and reduce Adriano to a bit part role, you took Keita of Sevilla for a water carrier role... The list goes on and on.
Look at Barcelona's squad and the transfers in/out on a year to year basis. If you think a few player movements equals 18-35 per season then I can only conclude mathematics is a foreign subject to you.
Villa was bought to fill a position on the pitch, which he did - you might remember the CL success, the Manita etc. Unfortunately, they bought the player a couple years later than they should have. And the key aspect of the players you mention is that they play, they don't rot on the bench, they aren't loaned out and aren't prevented from leaving if they aren't happy. Your lack of actual evidence just goes on & on.
Villa was bought to fill a position on the pitch, which he did - you might remember the CL success, the Manita etc. Unfortunately, they bought the player a couple years later than they should have. And the key aspect of the players you mention is that they play, they don't rot on the bench, they aren't loaned out and aren't prevented from leaving if they aren't happy. Your lack of actual evidence just goes on & on.
Mourinho says that they didn't plan ayything until this whole Mata situation.RAWK must love it that we've indirectly stopped them getting their man.
He's definitely a Chelsea player. Unlucky Brenton.
RAWK must love it that we've indirectly stopped them getting their man.
RAWK must love it that we've indirectly stopped them getting their man.
That was obvious. And also shows up Ayre - why the feck would he think we have plenty of time to seal up a deal like this? It's not the first time we've been stolen a march on either because we apparently think that sitting on our hands is an efficient negotiation tactic.
Try Woody for half a window before you start complaining.
That's the thing, unless a player wants to go to your team and only yours, you can't spend too much time twiddling your thumbs.
He probably never wanted to go to Liverpool. He was waiting for a better club to come along.
I imagine that he is pro Palestine.
We didn't have a bid accepted. We haggled over the price and apparently were going to go for him in the summer instead.
Ayre gets too much stick from our support.
Conclude the deal ya bastards.
Does he feck!
He's a classic case of being promoted beyond his station. Did a great job as commercial director. Is coming up short far too often as Managing Director. I mean, ffs
Seeing him out getting pissed the night before that infamous deadline day where we signed no one wasn't impressive either. He's in over his head.
He's a classic case of being promoted beyond his station. Did a great job as commercial director. Is coming up short far too often as Managing Director. I mean, ffs
Seeing him out getting pissed the night before that infamous deadline day where we signed no one wasn't impressive either. He's in over his head.
That brings him across as dumb, as does the Being Liverpool stuff, but he does an acceptable job and gets too much stick.
He does an acceptable job with all the stuff he also took care off being he became MD - That is to say, he excels in the commercial department.
He's done a poor in the footballing department. Ayre either needs a Director of Football to take care of the areas where business meets football or or someone with proper credentials in the football world above him as CEO to deal with it.
Still think it was a mistake for Rodgers to insist on no DoF. You have to imagine things would be looking better by now if Van Gaal had been brought in alongside Roders in 2012. I'd imagine he'd rather be crossing swords with Van Gaal's expertise on who to sign than our current committee.
Is that Robbie Fowler?
Well if Barça paid 80 or 90 mill for neymar then they spent as much as Chelsea
I'll have you know that Santos received a good sixth of that figure in the end. That's an almost saintly gesture from Barca.
You really need to check the facts before posting, because you have no idea what you're talking about. Delac was bought in 2009, Traore joined CFC youth academy in 2010,the same year Kalas was bought. Piazon and Davila were bought in 2011, De Bruyne in 2012, Bruma was sold to PSV in 2013. Schwarzer and Eto'o were free transfers. Essien? WTF?
Never you mind, it's a futile exercise.
Well if Barça paid 80 or 90 mill for neymar then they spent as much as Chelsea
One player (57 million) compared to an army of player movements year in & year out? Gotchya
You should probably read more carefully.
I described player movement, some paid, some loan and sales. Delac was bought in '09 but loaned out and just returned to Chelsea in December so qualifies in the list of player movements IN - follow? Same applies to Kalas, Piazon, De Bruyne & Davila.
Bruma was brought back from loan in 2013 (Hence IN) and then summarily sold, with an included buyback. Traoré signed his contract with Chelsea in 2013 and hence into the books - before being shipped out on loan, of course.
Free or not, Samu & Schwarzer are incoming players and same applies to Essien.
The OP was about how there are more than 2 squads of player movement each & every season for Chelsea that amount to an obscene amount of money. Your club's activities are the most egregious of those out there both in terms of killing competition and money spent.
I agree, it's futile to have a discussion if logic & evidence is going to be ignored