He was never going to keep up those insane numbers and he doesn't look quite as sharp as last season but he'll still score a lot because they are just annoyingly good.
Mo Salah
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One season wonder... And the way he reacted yesterday after the 3-2 shows that he will be a bad teammate when things don't go his way, too... I wonder if he will be wearing the shoulder bandage as an excuse for the rest of the season...
A bit early to label him a flash in the pan.
It seems like more Salah will induce a lot of flip flopping from many this season, the man is simply the best.
He actually celebrated before hurling the bottle into the ground. His mistake led to the second goal, so I reckon he was very relieved, and hurling the water bottle was relief not a hissy fit.
BT sport also pointed this out.
Heads in Madrid mate, he's gone
Think Egypt rushed him back and, like Kane, he's just not physically right at the moment.
He’s had more crap seasons than good seasons.
In other words he’s fecking crap.
In other words he’s fecking crap.
That's definitely not true.
The good ol' Temuri Ketsbaia should really be in Fifa and Pro Evo.
Thats the Mosalah we sold. He had one good season and everyone in the media wet themselves all why he was very average. He\s back to his average best and just because of the team he's in he will score 20 in all comps.
I reckon he's just pissed with himself. Mind you I'm Egyptian, so I could be biased.
Edit:
fecking bullshit, if you turn up the volume you can hear the 'If you're angry and you know it raise your hands' tune in the background.
They wet themselves because he broke records that better players than him couldn't even get close to. What are you on about? He didn't deserve praise for how he performed last season? If it was that long streak of piss Morata putting up those numbers it would have been the same reaction from the press. Poor post.
Possibly another case of an ordinary player who had an extraordinary season. It's been seen before and will be seen again.
Easier to judge at the end of the season.
Easier to judge at the end of the season.
Where do you get your information from?
Both seasons at Roma and his half-season at Fiorentina were all a success, not to mention his last season with Liverpool. That's 3.5 good seasons before he turned 26. Both seasons with Basel were good too, certainly not crappy.
His only poor season was with Chelsea.
He’s shite pal
Doesn't look at peak fitness which makes judging him difficult. He'll score plenty, can't see any solutions for how he moves on the pitch.
Thanks, now he’ll score for sure against us next week
I lol at people defending him. He is poor. last season he was luc
I call this bet. He won't score and we'll smash the cnuts 3-1
Utterly terrible yesterday. His form has completely deserted him this season by-and-large.
He was pretty much the same at the start of last season.
Yep. Worrying. Looks nothing like last season so far. We need him, and the other two, to hit last seasons form if we want to challenge.
The point yesterday was huge. Think having van Dijk and Alisson alone will make you title challengers even if your front three don't hit the heights of last season as you won't be conceding silly goals anymore.
Off form badly at the moment but whilst he continues working his arse off and getting into good positions, he'll stay in the team. It looks like Klopp wants to try and help him play his way back into form so I'm happy for him to do that.
Something clearly isn't right with him but it'll only take 1 good goal and I feel like the flood gates will open. Of course, I could be completely wrong and he's gone the way of Torres but I really hope not
Something clearly isn't right with him but it'll only take 1 good goal and I feel like the flood gates will open. Of course, I could be completely wrong and he's gone the way of Torres but I really hope not
Could someone enlightened tell me if his dip in form could be a result of Klopps style? Remember that was a talking point when Klopp was in the Bundesliga and when he came to England, that his philosophy ran the players to the ground.
I doubt it due to how he took to Klopps style last season. How we play hasn't changed, just his form. I think it's a lack of confidence which is being dealt further blows every time he overhits a pass, misses a chance etc
His movement and link up play is still good, the goals just aren't coming as easy as they were last year. That happens to all players.
He will get over it and continue at a decent rate, but won't match what he did last year IMO.
He will get over it and continue at a decent rate, but won't match what he did last year IMO.
Regression to the mean
Fecks sake, I was starting to hope Salah was just the first and Liverpools team starting to crack
He will come back. It is a matter of time. I believe in his ability.
This is controversial and I'm not just saying this because he's a Liverpool player, but I felt Salah isn't as good as his numbers suggested last season. I was never overly impressed with him, unlike Hazard who can turn a game on it's head on his own, I didn't see him bossing games at all. Yes he scored a lot of goals but when you've got a forward line of Mane, Firmino and Salah, the defence don't know who to deal with, if you focus on one, the other scores, that results in them getting lots of space.
This season we've seen Mane not playing as well as he normally does, Firmino drops pretty deep so teams are doubling up on Salah and he's getting no where near the freedom he had last season. Great players respond to that and develop their game accordingly, in all honesty, I can't see him doing that, especially with his confidence not looking as unbreakable as it did last season.
In saying all this though, if he gets anywhere near 20 goals and assists this season, it's a great return for a wide forward and in comparison to last season, this season was always going to be an anti-climax.
This season we've seen Mane not playing as well as he normally does, Firmino drops pretty deep so teams are doubling up on Salah and he's getting no where near the freedom he had last season. Great players respond to that and develop their game accordingly, in all honesty, I can't see him doing that, especially with his confidence not looking as unbreakable as it did last season.
In saying all this though, if he gets anywhere near 20 goals and assists this season, it's a great return for a wide forward and in comparison to last season, this season was always going to be an anti-climax.
Still think he’ll get ok numbers and others have stepped up so it’s not critical.
Salah's strength isn't taking on players and dribbling past them. Has never been actually. Since his emergence on the scene and his off ball movement and running behind defenders in space are his biggest strengths. That's why he gets loads of chances per game. He accompanied that with improvement in his finishing last season and the result was incredible. He's a team player.
He has several problems currently away from his on pitch form. He got himself into an unnecessary dispute with the Egyptian FA and he's not as much focused as last season, looks distracted. I think once he regains his focus in front of the goal he'll be fine.
Thing with Salah though is that he plays in a symmetrical system.
Firminh0 provides space for Salah & Mane - Salah provides space on the other side for Mane.
Whilst Salah isn't scoring goals currently; it's not like he isn't making the runs or struggling to be involved - his presence on the right channel & him being on the ball significantly opens up the space on the other side.
I just feel like the world cup theatrics got to him a bit and the defenders are more aware of him - he will likely come in to some midseason form but maybe he needs to be a bit quicker with his decision making nownow.
Firminh0 provides space for Salah & Mane - Salah provides space on the other side for Mane.
Whilst Salah isn't scoring goals currently; it's not like he isn't making the runs or struggling to be involved - his presence on the right channel & him being on the ball significantly opens up the space on the other side.
I just feel like the world cup theatrics got to him a bit and the defenders are more aware of him - he will likely come in to some midseason form but maybe he needs to be a bit quicker with his decision making nownow.
They call it second syndrome season for a reason.
He was unlikely to be treated the same as teams did last year - he's the one they make double sure on now. Very possibly why Mane started so well, more space for him.
If only we had twin wingers like this. Rather than a number 10 on the right wing, and an out of form winger the other side, or even worse, Rashford who isn't a winger in a million years being shoehorned in.
Looks like that driving charge is really weighing on his conscience.
I find symmetry is one of the most Underrated aspects of tactics. The same type of player doing the same thing on both sides.
I think Salah & mane doing almost the exact thing on either side of the pitch is better than for example having hazard cutting in on one side and having willian sticking wide on the other. Same with Sterling & Sane to me being better than playing Sterling & Bernardo silva on either side. Same as how Bale & Ronaldo did the same thing or David Villa & Pedro did on either side of the pitch.
We do have players that can play in some sort of symmetry but they need to play as forwards -
Martial - Rashford
Sanchez
All has a level of similarities between them that to me that would be harder to defend against because defending against one is going to open space for another - like marking Salah does for Mane.
It's why Lukaku to me whilst not a bad player - playing him centrally as our target man breaks any cohesion due to the positions everybody else has to take to supply to him.
Unfortunately in Jose's time, we've seen zero symmetry. One full back sits deeper, one pushes on. Someone like Mata cutting in, while the let winger is more progressive, meaning Valencia has to patrol the whole of the wing.
The whole thing looks in tatters at the moment, it'll no doubt take a few more transfer windows and talk of 4-5 players being needed as per the last however many years.
Lacked the final touch yesterday. He'll be fine.