Cheers. Still time to recruit for that age group thoughWilliams’ first name? I know it’s probably the most common last name in England, but he’s not related to Ro-Shaun by any chance?
They're not related, I think his name is Brandon.
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They're not related, I think his name is Brandon.
Levitt, Williams, Laird and Garner probably the main stand outs with Ethan Galbraith and Yeboah Amankwah likely to get scholarships as well.@Mr. MUJAC @khoazany @jb8521 @Leonard17 @limerickcitykid - I know it’s probably too early to tell, but at the moment, based on what you’ve seen/heard, who are the standout talents in the U16 team? And sorry, I know you’ve probably answered this a few times already, but you can only blame yourselves, possessing all that knowledge
Thanks!
U16s are through to the final after beating Anderlecht 2-1, Greenwood and Levitt scored the goals.
They either play Fulham in the final at 12PM today.
They either play Fulham in the final at 12PM today.
U16s have won the Premier League International tournament after beating Fulham 5-4 on penalties in the final after a 0-0 draw
Penalty scorers were Allardyce, Dolan, Greenwood, Mambuene and McGhee. Garner missed his spotkick but Thompson saved one of theirs and the other hit the post.
http://mufclatest.com/man-utd-u16-win-tournament/
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Kenyon, Gomes and Chong went on a run.
Sam Allardyce, Ron Greenwood and Mark McGhee - some good names there
Our Allardyce is actually also called Sam and he's Big Sam's cousin.
Is he not his grandson?
Very good result for the U16s. I see City won the U15s.
The last assist was Buffonge
Does it still count? Bearing in mind it wasn't a direct pass that led to a goal?
Well it was the last pass before the goal so I'd count it anyway
That's fair enough.
Time for the official U18 stats thread, lads? I think we'll need it this season considering the amount of goals we're scoring.
Thanks.
Interesting that the new U16 singing Yeboah Amankwah seemingly wasn't attached to any pro academy and were playing Sunday League football before joining United.
Daily Mail and Simon Jones say that Barcelona are watching Gomes.
Who wouldn’t be?
That's true, only reason I mentioned it because Jones is quite reliable when it comes to our academy and youth football in general. Not too worried about this however.
I see. Then again Daily Mail isn’t as much? I think it’s only natural for the press to start making up these rumours as they’ve been writing quite a lot about Gomes lately.
Not the most reputable paper, no. But like I said, not too worried about it anyway. The fact his dad is his agent should help us even more.
Barcelona have been trying to sign Gomes for years so this interest is nothing new. Simon Jones is normally good when it comes to the academy but there is a lot of wrong information in the story
I'd be surprised if Barcelona had only just started looking at him now so I can't say this story was that shocking. Not the worst thing you can get wrong but wasn't Angel younger than 13 when he joined?
Yeah he was here long before turning 13. I think the confusion over that came from old pictures of him with McClair signing a contract but it was just a new contract not actually signing for the club
Manchester United's schoolboys enjoyed a fine spell of tournament action with the Under-16s winning the 2016 Football for Freedom trophy.
The Premier League international event in Liverpool included 12 of the best Academies from home and abroad, with an educational visit to the International Slavery Museum organised for Saturday night.
A 1-1 draw with West Brom opened United's group-stage fixtures before a 4-1 defeat of German side Borussia Dortmund. A 1-0 victory over Everton clinched qualification to the semi-finals where Anderlecht provided tough opposition considering the fact they topped a group containing Chelsea, Tottenham and Manchester City.
The Reds won 2-1 against the Belgian team to set up a final clash with Fulham, who were aiming to lift the trophy for a third successive year, and triumphed 5-4 on penalties after a 0-0 draw.
Under-16s coach Neil Ryan told ManUtd.com: "We are really pleased with the group - it's a fantastic achievement for them. The competition involved some of the elite sides from both Europe and England.
"Winning was important to us but, more importantly, the experience of tournament football is a fundamental part of our players' development - win or lose."
Meanwhile, United also competed in the Settembre Rostese 8th Trophy in Turin, for players born in 2004, and finished runners-up.
"We have developed our tours and tournaments programme for the remainder of the season," Head of Academy Nicky Butt told ManUtd.com. "We are passionate about our players experiencing all of the benefits that come with tournament football such as elite opposition, different styles of football, penalty shoot-outs and a competitive environment.
"It's all part of developing our players to be able to cope with the demands of first-team football."
As per The Sun, Phelan wants Joyce as his Assistant.
The City head coach was asked about the possibility of Joyce joining his staff last week. This is what he had to say.
"I know Warren and I've known him for many years," said Phelan. "I know the qualities of Warren but he's working at a huge football club and producing some terrific young footballers. We've just taken two from him with the potential to do really well.
"He's a guy that's in work and that's a difficult situation. There's lots of good people out there who want to work and are willing to work.
"The Premier League would be a massive option for them."
Don't think having a better assistant manager than manager is necessarily a good thing for Phelan.
Joyce going there could be a blessing in disguise for Keane and Weir. Their best footballs came under him.
Based on?
Shoretire won Player of the tournament for this.
U15s will play Liverpool in the final of Blades Cup on Wednesday 7pm at Bower Fold, Stalybridge. Greenwood, Elanga, Mambuene and Smethurst were on the U16s squad on the weekend so might not play so will be interesting to see how they do.
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I'm saying Joyce is a better manager/coach than Phelan. More experience in terms of management and as a coach, isn't going to sit there and just be happy to be a part of the staff.
I think there is a myth associated with Phelan. He was a coach and assistant here that many years for a reason.
Other than being a motivator, I don't see anything special in Joyce.
The players under his tutelage that have gone on to have careers is testament. His changed players from potentially average careers to decent careers. Continuously having to adapt under changing conditions. Not to mention all the clubs that have come for him in his time at the club. Phelan was a yes man to Fergie, cos he wanted his job. He put the cones and bibs out, while Meulensteen did the proper work.
There is a lot of assumption within your post. The players who make it at Championship level and above have done so mainly because of their talent He's not teaching them any revolutionary tactics; he's a good motivator and disciplinarian.
It's one thing to motivate a bunch of kids, it's another to motivate well paid men. Players don't react well to a hard-ass in this modern age. They're immature and overpaid. They do what they want within reason. He has a good gig here at United. I think he might be better suited to managing young players over men.
As for Phelan, we don't know what he did or didn't do. I rate Meulensteen highly. I credit both him and Queiroz for our tactical improvement in European competition.
He's only working with evidence and results of our U21. You seem to working on an assumption which is based on nothing. Oh and btw if you've paid any attention to the Reserves or U21 matches, you'll see that Joyce is tactically quite good. Even used the false nine tactic to good effect.
Based on what?
His players love working with him.
The parents say he is excellent with them.
The club rate him highly.
His results have been exceptional.
It's much more than simply motivation. There is coaching, leadership, tactics, communication, feedback, one-to-one development teamwork amongst other things.
Hard to get that all right by being average or lucky.
We play against poor Lancashire teams and the likes of Chelsea who have already loaned out the majority of their best U23 players. Solksjaer did well in this position also. Now look at him.
Joyce is an old fashioned person. A throwback to the mid 90's. He remind of Nigel Pearson. He's good at what he does at this level, but we often have far more talented players than the opposition.
Nice of you to give your pal a pass on his insights into what Phelan did on the training ground though.