Arsene's been on his case since 2009 but with Cazorla and Ozil it won't happen.
Miralem Pjanic
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Yeah I always hoped he would go to Arsenal because he always seemed like a perfect fit for them. Won't happen now as you say though.
Yeah, there won't be Pjanic on the streets of London.
I can't see Roma selling one of their best players mid season when they have a real chance of landing Seria A this year.....But this bloke would be exactly what we need
Quality player. I'm pretty sure he can play as an 8 in a Modric sort of role too, many are speaking as if he is strictly a 10.
he plays with De Rossi and Strootman... Pjanic is a purely offensive player. Definitely not what we need.
This. He's more similar to Kagawa than Modric. He's not suited to any kind of deep role.
In Roma yeah, but for Bosnia he plays with Medunjanin and behind Misimovic, as an 8. He can play that position perfectly well, he's not a purely offensive player as you say. He might not be exactly what we need but he would sure as hell be closer to what we need then Fellaini was and he would instantly improve us, quite a bit. Better then anything else we have in midfield by a distance (other then Carrick, but Pjanic has the potential to surpass him).
I'm not sure how much you watch him play for Bosnia (probably not much I'm guessing) but he plays a deeper role running the game for us. He's also our main playmaker, but he's capable of playing as the '8' in a 3 man midfield. He basically plays the same role for us as Modric does for Croatia, just isn't at Modric's level yet. Our problem is we don't use a 3 man midfield, so he wouldn't really be ideal. Who knows though, Moyes might want us to switch to a 3 man midfield once he gets a few more transfer windows.
Admittedly, I've never seen him play internationally - it's why I'm pleased to see Bosnia qualify, to see him, Dzeko, Ibisevic etc on the big stage! I know he's performing very well for Bosnia though so perhaps he can fit in deeper. I just personally think in the PL you're going to struggle playing that far back if you're as small as Pjanic.
Don't get me wrong though - I'd love to see him at United! Big time admirer.
I can see where you're coming from and for United specifically I'm not sure how it would work out. Think he'd be great at Arsenal for example, putting him where Ramsey is now, or as the attacking midfielder but they don't need him considering their options at the moment. Since we always use a midfield 2, there are very few midfielders out there who I feel would fit us perfectly and look great next to Carrick. And by few, I mean like a handful in the world (Schweinsteiger, Toure, Gundogan, Vidal.. that's probably it). Most of the others are either too offensive minded, too lightweight (like Pjanic perhaps) or too defensive to go next to Carrick. That's why I think we should scrap that formation altogether, but we can't while we have RVP and Rooney both here. As it is, we have very slim pickings to choose from for who will be a perfect fit in midfield.
From memory, I'm sure he didn't play just behind the striker in his Lyon days either?
Can he not play like Scholes did for us in his latter years?
He's 5ft 11.
Yeah, he isn't small but he's pretty weak physically. He's bulked up the last few years, and Bosnia's manager told him that he needs to bulk up more to get to the next level of players (or something along those lines).
He probably could, but I'm not sure how well that would work next to Carrick now. You'd essentially have two players playing the same type of role in our midfield, with neither being huge work horses or something. If we're looking at him to potentially replace Carrick as he's 32 now then I think it would make more sense (we'd also need a more defensive midfielder next to him then as he's more offensive minded then Carrick), rather then partner Carrick.
Also I don't remember really where he played most of the team when he was at Lyon. Didn't watch him all that often there, just the occasional game. Think he was basically a direct replacement for Juninho for them, when Juninho was being rested or as a sub. Pretty sure Pjanic modeled the way he takes set pieces after Juninho as well.
Couldn't agree more really. For us right now it would just be another bit of competition for Kagawa in my opinion, and he doesn't get enough game time as it is!
Have you ever seen him play?
Yes, and I noticed that he's almost 6ft.
You'd also have noticed that he's a very lightweight player then who struggles with the physical side of the game.
Ah, so he's not small then?
He's slightly taller and slightly heavier than Tom Cleverley.
And a completely different style of player, a style which I personally think is impacted by overtly physical players. What about this is hard for you to grasp mate?
Your use of the word small for someone who isn't small.
Also, the Premier League these days is awash with players in central midfield who aren't physical and are all about their use of the ball.
He's small compared to the majority of players who would be surrounding him in the midfields and defences of most PL clubs.
But he isn't though. The premier league has plenty of clubs who play with smaller midfielders.
It's a fact though. There are stacks of central midfielders playing in the premier league, and for other big clubs, who are smaller than him. Or of similar size.
He's not small, no matter how many times you say he is. Less physical? Perhaps you have a point. Smaller? No, he's 5ft 11.
So are we signing him up then lads? What's the scoop?
Too small.
Yeah he has to be taller than crouch before we can even consider him
Caughtoffside ran the story on Friday and it was picked up today by Gazzetadedellosport so you can put your house on it happening
So, in a typical TN argument, rather than taking issue at the point that was actually made, you choose instead to debate over how it was phrased. It was fairly obvious what I meant, you're just being tedious as per.
I disagree with your point irrespective of your too small mistake, and have said as much. There are plenty of players playing in midfield in the premier league who aren't overly physical, and who rely on their use of the ball, quick feet and quick thinking rather than brawn and physicality. Football has moved on, speed of movement and thought is more important that strength now.
Hang the Storey.
Sounds as if he plays as deep for Bosnia as he does Roma. I don't see why he wouldn't work as well alongside Carrick as Scholes did. As said, speed of thought's the most important thing. Obviously there are times when you want 3 in the middle, but it's not as if Pjanić sticks his foot in less than either of those. Carrick takes over Scholes' deep-lying role as he ages, Pjanić continues to play box to box.
If Rooney leaves in the summer and we switch to 4-3-3 then Pjanic would be a good buy, he could play just ahead of the human mic and Carrick.
He has excellent technique and quick feet, I'm sure he wouldn't be having any problems playing in premiership, he is one of those players who doesn't have too much problems playing against stronger players even though he is the weaker type.
Saying that, he isn't suited for United, I'd be surprised if we are really interesred in him.
Saying that, he isn't suited for United, I'd be surprised if we are really interesred in him.
Saw him a few times this season, including live once. He's really one of Roma's topperformers and for his age he has so much experience already. I think he'd be a hit here.
Pjanic and De Rossi! Make it happen please.
Pjanic and De Rossi! Make it happen please.
Saw him a few times this season, including live once. He's really one of Roma's topperformers and for his age he has so much experience already. I think he'd be a hit here.
Pjanic and De Rossi! Make it happen please.
What sort of player is he?
I agree. Which made me suspicious towards Fellaini from the beginning
He's the creative type, with a good freekick in him, great first touch and the vision that is required of a playmaker. The word I'd describe him with is 'smart'. In all honesty, he probably doesn't suit our style because of our 442. He has De Rossi and Strootman behind him in midfield so he has the freedom to create. We probably need someone like De Rossi more than Pjanic, unless we change our formation.