Well if we go by signing fee only, would be Griezmann, Coutinho + x
Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch
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Well if we go by signing fee only, would be Griezmann, Coutinho + x
I think they're the 9th best side in the league on paper.
United
City
Liverpool
Wolves
Leicester
Everton
Chelsea
Tottenham
Would take any of the above squads before Arsenal's.
United
City
Liverpool
Wolves
Leicester
Everton
Chelsea
Tottenham
Would take any of the above squads before Arsenal's.
So the manager is the difference then?
Richarlison isn’t a RW! You failed to counter that argument and keep ignoring it. Even Willian before this season would have been better RW candidate.
I never say they are top 4 side. I’m saying Arteta should be doing better because his XI and squad aren’t worse than Everton.
Of course managers are a difference when concerning squad quality as players can turn into better players depending who the manager is. DCL was never going to become the player he is today under Silva but with the guidance of Ancelotti he has managed it. The barometer we have currently is how the players l
I’d actually argue that Richarlison isn’t a LW or RW and his best position is as a CF where he can impact all areas of the pitch but I’d rather have him as a RW than Pepe due to the reasons I mentioned and he’s a better player than him in general.
We will have to agree to disagree.
Pretty much, that and to see whether they actually get relegated under him or not.
The exchange rate has complicated things (thanks Brexit!) so the stat slips to having a (?) at the end.
Also Liverpool getting all of Coutinhos fee just popped into my feed so it looks as if i wished this (sort of) stat out of existence!
How many times do I need to tell you this, We are not talking about now, we are talking about before this season. Team that finished 12th shouldn’t have majority their players in over the ones that finished 8th and won FA Cup. Even last season under Ancelotti towards end of the season, you had very poor results.
End of the day, what you said is down to one side opinion. In neutral argument, Ancelotti in arteta’s place now could make the current arsenal at least in the same position where Everton is now because before this season started, arsenal squad & XI should be at least on par or better than Everton. They were top 4 candidate while everton were EL candidate.
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Ancelotti and Arteta took over before this season which I’ve been referencing constantly.
It's not that bad. At worst they have a top 8 squad in the league. Where they are right now falls squarely on the shoulders of the manager for reigning over such a disastrous campaign.
Ancelotti would have done a much better job than Arteta with the same squad. Thos arsenal squad is not 15th level bad. Aubameyang used to bag 20 plus goals in every past 3 or 4 seasons. Any manager would make sure to build the team.around him. This is the worst anyone has seen Aubameyang, surely manager has to be blamed.
He suggests the dominant team always win in basketball and that in football the best team that shots a lot can lose.
In other words, he would have been a successful a basketball manager.
Does Arsenal have a basketball section?
A dig at Arteta there.
Thanks. I throughly enjoyed reading that.
A bit harsh maybe, but yeah. Arsenal have a pretty shit squad right now and far too many fannies
Pepe deserves more of a slagging than what you have given him. He's been an absolute shocking piece of business.
Their squad is dogshite but it seems their problems are far more than just lacking quality. Apparently there's a big friction in dressing room and there's a degree of clash and hate between players with the manager involved as well.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...l-toxic-dressing-room-different-factions.html
Even if this is Daily Mail, it's obvious watching them that something is just wrong. Arteta can't seem to be able to control the dressing room.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...l-toxic-dressing-room-different-factions.html
Even if this is Daily Mail, it's obvious watching them that something is just wrong. Arteta can't seem to be able to control the dressing room.
I agree that it’s not 15th level bad but I don’t think it’s any better than the teams fighting for EL either which was the argument - Wolves, Leicester, Southampton, Everton etc.
Richarlison and DCL were not this good last season but Ancelotti improved them. Yea arsenal squad is not a top 4 level but it is not worse than wolves or Southampton or Westham like some here are suggesting. Southampton don't have a better squad than Arsenal. People here are massively underrating arsenal's squad.
Leno, Tierney, Gabriel, AMN, partey, Saka, Aubameyang, Lacazette, Martinelli all are solid players who are much better than what the teams you mentioned have. It's the managers job to maximize the squad. Before the start of the season many predicted arsenal in top 6 and some even in top 4, so this sudden change of stance that this squad is top 10 PL level only doesn't make sense.
Arteta is massively underperforming with this squad.
Their squad is definitely not shit!
He needs to find the right formula and the current one just misses some important ingredients.
In some sense, it’s his own make of the current situation which actually demonstrates his naive way to rebuild the team.
Compared with what Ole and lamp have done, at least by the moment, he is much a failure in term of building a team. They are simply not in the same league.
He needs to find the right formula and the current one just misses some important ingredients.
In some sense, it’s his own make of the current situation which actually demonstrates his naive way to rebuild the team.
Compared with what Ole and lamp have done, at least by the moment, he is much a failure in term of building a team. They are simply not in the same league.
Judgement Day for Arteta today? Or just another day in life at Arsenal?
Basketball is such a simple game for simpletons where you win I mean definitely definitetly win if you shoot the ball more than your opponent. Whether you miss the basket all the time is irrelevant. To decipher football however you need a mind of Arteta.
The relegation 6 pointer against Brighton is Judgement Day, today they're expected to lose.
In a high scoring game like basketball, small errors are less decisive than in a low scoring game like football.
He’s not wrong but his point is just...irrelevant.
Imagine an Arsenal manager even entertaining the thought of relegation in public.
They won't get relegated. And if they're in threat of relegation with 10 games to go they'll fire him and bring in a caretaker who they'll make permanent
I actually don't think Arsenal's squad is that bad. Arteta is underperforming with them.
Leno, Bellerin, Tierney, Gabriel, Luiz, Partey, Elneny, Saka, Martinelli, Aubameyang, Lacazette should be a good first XI.
Leno, Bellerin, Tierney, Gabriel, Luiz, Partey, Elneny, Saka, Martinelli, Aubameyang, Lacazette should be a good first XI.
Just listening to Arteta's press conference is demotivating.
Arteta is trying to save his job. He’s basically stating that they will be in a relegation fight if they lose their next 3 games in the hope that when/if they win one of them, he can them claim it as improvement. He is a dreadful manager and he will be gone soon enough.
I didn't understand the hype surrounding him before this shitty period for Arsenal. You could say he was an appointment from within (ex Arsenal player) although he was not, spent more years playing for Everton than Arsenal and spent more years working as a staff with City than Arsenal. When he walked in as manager he was a nobody for that Arsenal team. With Ole and Lampard at least they're club legends. Arteta was never a top top player to begin with and by the time he joined Arsenal he was not anything special and did not do anything special as well. Sure Pep could say he had a talent to be a top manager etc but it was under Pep's guidance. Simply put, he, just like Ole and Lampard, is learning on the job but in a much worse way since he does not command enough respect from the players. If this ends badly i won't be surprised.
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I hope he stays. I would like to see Doncaster v Arsenal at the Emirates in the near future.
Stop trying to jinx him. He will beat Chelsea. You read it here first.
He's more Moyes than pep with his set up, down playing the chances and quality of his squad etc
They're certainly due a win. They might just scrape one.
You just know he'll get a win today. Worst moment for Chelsea to face Arsenal. The latter are due a win.
That's how I feel as well, but I always do this when we play a big team. Confident throughout the week, then wake up on the day feeling extremely pessimistic. Everything literally points to a comfortable Chelsea win, so naturally we'll probably see Arsenal play us off the park.
Called it.
ArtetaIn.
He is a discount version of old Lvg.
Don't concede a lot and only score off setpieces or penalties.
He is a discount version of old Lvg.
Don't concede a lot and only score off setpieces or penalties.