I mean, he's finished 8th twice playing boring rubbish football so of course they are better than that now. That one FA cup win aside, he's been really poor for Arsenal. This season though they should be expecting much more from him given the spending, us dropping a few levels and the fact that they need their manager to show some quality. Till now I think he's hidden behind the 'project' but I think it's high time Arsenal had expectations from him. Tbf some of their new signings do look good so maybe there are some positive signs, but till now I've not been impressed at all by his work.
Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch
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Hes not a good manager at all imo.
I keep thinking he's some sort of tactician but whenever I watch them play it's pretty basic stuff.
Has he been with them 3 years now? Teams like Watford and Leicester press better than them. For someone who has worked with Pep, if you can't even build up play from the back and press as a unit, what's the point?
He's even got his fancypants ball playing GK, CBs, a bunch of small technical players, everything.
Has he been with them 3 years now? Teams like Watford and Leicester press better than them. For someone who has worked with Pep, if you can't even build up play from the back and press as a unit, what's the point?
He's even got his fancypants ball playing GK, CBs, a bunch of small technical players, everything.
He has all the tactics and coaching of Pep but none of his major trophies. Personality matters when you are leading mega millionaire footballers.
He's got a way of turning full sentences into one long word, don't know how else to describe it
Are Arsenill still waiting for him to become good?
The commentator on my stream was drooling on about how animated he is on touchline that is so reminiscent of Pep. How he is passing on instructions just like Pep from the touchline.
You guys are talking shite!!!!!
You guys are talking shite!!!!!
You're all being harsh on him, he's doing a great job and Arsenal should give him a new 10 year deal tomorrow
Animated on the touchline? Passing on instructions? If that's the standard I am sure you can find thousands of sunday league coaches who do that.
This!!
I knew if we were to lose last night the knee jerkers would be out & we'd get slaughtered. From the posts I've had a quick scan through, the below seems the most fair.
No-one ever thought we would get top 4 at the beginning of the season, as we know we are not top 4 quality yet. Most right minded Arsenal fans realise this, & haven't claimed any different. The only reason we have even entered the conversation is because of how poor Utd have been, not how good we are. Again, we realise this, it's not new.
As for last night's game, I thought it was a tight game, decided by a silly penalty, but it showed the good & bad of Arsenal all captured in a 90 minute package.
We started of well, pressed ok, kept the ball ok, and then got the goal (least said about that the better). Then after going ahead we have this horrible habit of retreating & defending the lead, & that puts us on the back foot.
More problems, we still suffer from individual mistakes, we still don't create enough going forward, when we need to rely on our experienced players like Partey & Aubameyang they tend to let us down, dwe only play in spells still.
Main positive for me was Martinelli, if he gets a run & can find form he can be like a new signing. Apart from that, last night's game was same old Arsenal, it didn't teach me anything new. You are simply not going to be a top team when the team contains some average players.
No-one ever thought we would get top 4 at the beginning of the season, as we know we are not top 4 quality yet. Most right minded Arsenal fans realise this, & haven't claimed any different. The only reason we have even entered the conversation is because of how poor Utd have been, not how good we are. Again, we realise this, it's not new.
As for last night's game, I thought it was a tight game, decided by a silly penalty, but it showed the good & bad of Arsenal all captured in a 90 minute package.
We started of well, pressed ok, kept the ball ok, and then got the goal (least said about that the better). Then after going ahead we have this horrible habit of retreating & defending the lead, & that puts us on the back foot.
More problems, we still suffer from individual mistakes, we still don't create enough going forward, when we need to rely on our experienced players like Partey & Aubameyang they tend to let us down, dwe only play in spells still.
Main positive for me was Martinelli, if he gets a run & can find form he can be like a new signing. Apart from that, last night's game was same old Arsenal, it didn't teach me anything new. You are simply not going to be a top team when the team contains some average players.
It's odd that a overtly fascist Italian has a better moral compass than Arteta and the entire playing and coaching staff..
Agree with this. They've become an unsporting team because theyve become so shit they'll take a goal by any means necessary.
I love how we're being lectured on how to be sporting by the fanbase that used to chant about our manager being a paedophile.
What?
I honestly have no idea how anyone who looks at his team, and whose perception isn't irrationally dominated by the fact he coached under Pep for a season or two, would come to think that he has "all the tactics and coaching of Pep". His Arsenal play nothing like a Pep team. Nothing at all. Would be much more accurate to claim "he has all the tactics and coaching of David Moyes but none of the goggly eyes"
Yesterday was the first time I’ve actually watched Arsenal in forever. They looked better than the previous time, but I still can’t see them ever being properly threatening under him and I hope he stays there for the next decade.
I am guessing he is referencing Di Canio against Everton.
Yours just chucked coin into the disabled section and injured a kid.
There are always a few idiots in a fanbase, it's irrelevant to the point being raised.
Your team scored a goal where you knew the keeper was on the floor hurt and then celebrated like you had won the world cup then went on to lose to a side that did not have a manager. It is embarrassing, just one of those moments where you have to swallow it I am afraid.
Strange comparison.
Paulo Di Canio
One player refused to score when the keeper was hurt, the other didn't.
It is a pretty straightforward comparison.
Yeah I thought that!
Why are you comparing apples and oranges?
I love how you're equating sportsmanship which is something that exists between the players on the pitch, and the chants of fans in the stands.
"No wonder they scored that goal without a regret seeing as their fans make kids in the disabled section have to leave their first game at OT early due to getting a coin in the head." Or the connection isn't at strong there maybe?
He might stay a long time, he seems to be very good at selling his fantasy. It's the "wait until our stadium is paid" story all over again. Edu and Arteta somehow convinced everyone that spending a ton of money on young players gives him the right to underperform for the foreseeable future. I can't wait to see him gone.
Because he is an Arsenal fan ?
I don't know why you have to lie about something that is on video
Once DeGea is down, not one player apart from Fred is looking in his direction. El Neny, ESR and all United players are looking up in the sky to see where the ball will land.
When Fred start raising his hand and shouting the ball is travelling from El Neny's head to Smith-Rowe.2s later the ball is already in the net.
Was it a weird goal ? Yes. Did Atkinson feck up ? Absolutely, he clearly has De Gea in his field of view when your defense clear the ball. But please stop making stuff up as if we controlled the ball, dribbled, crossed it and then scored. Everything happened in 3s.
I think the Arsenal players still sees that de Gea was on the floor rolling round like he’d been shot as the ball went past him, he clearly would have saved that wet shot if he was stood on 2 feet.I don't know why you have to lie about something that is on video
Once DeGea is down, not one player apart from Fred is looking in his direction. El Neny, ESR and all United players are looking up in the sky to see where the ball will land.
When Fred start raising his hand and shouting the ball is travelling from El Neny's head to Smith-Rowe.2s later the ball is already in the net.
Was it a weird goal ? Yes. Did Atkinson feck up ? Absolutely, he clearly has De Gea in his field of view when your defense clear the ball. But please stop making stuff up as if we controlled the ball, dribbled, crossed it and then scored. Everything happened in 3s.
that’s how I read what you responded to anyway, you seen the goalkeeper was lying there injured as the ball went in. Still celebrated like you’d win a cup
Amazing how his name is not appointed to be off the door after the poor football shown on pitch, even with Arsenal doing a very decent effort in the transfer market.
As opposed to the "Gooner boys" who were saying they were "on a bender, Cristiano's a sex offender"?
Will finish 7-5
I don't know why you have to lie about something that is on video
Once DeGea is down, not one player apart from Fred is looking in his direction. El Neny, ESR and all United players are looking up in the sky to see where the ball will land.
When Fred start raising his hand and shouting the ball is travelling from El Neny's head to Smith-Rowe.2s later the ball is already in the net.
Was it a weird goal ? Yes. Did Atkinson feck up ? Absolutely, he clearly has De Gea in his field of view when your defense clear the ball. But please stop making stuff up as if we controlled the ball, dribbled, crossed it and then scored. Everything happened in 3s.
You were unsportsmanlike. End of story. The way you celebrated was even worse given how it happened.
Very embarrassing really.
How ? Look at the replay they're all turned around, only Fred and the ref sees him on the ground. There might be an ounce of a doubt about Martinelli who could maybe see it in the corner of his eye.
I can agree with the celebration part but that's not the point i was responding to. You won the game, end of story. Don't "injure" your own players and you will win many more, i'm sure of it.
I don't know why you have to lie about something that is on video
Once DeGea is down, not one player apart from Fred is looking in his direction. El Neny, ESR and all United players are looking up in the sky to see where the ball will land.
When Fred start raising his hand and shouting the ball is travelling from El Neny's head to Smith-Rowe.2s later the ball is already in the net.
Was it a weird goal ? Yes. Did Atkinson feck up ? Absolutely, he clearly has De Gea in his field of view when your defense clear the ball. But please stop making stuff up as if we controlled the ball, dribbled, crossed it and then scored. Everything happened in 3s.
Smith Rowe was fully aware.
Watch this video between 40 seconds and 44 seconds. (He can see De Gea the entire time but specifically looks right at him at 42 seconds).
He clearly looked and noticed and that is the only reason he took the volley that never would have threatened a goal if the keeper was on his feet. Smith Rowe clearly took intentional advantage of the situation. They then celebrated as if they won the world cup and went on to lose. It is not the end of the world but it is pretty embarrassing. Hold it.
Edit: Also Atkinson did not feck up.
Can't see that video, it's geo-blocked for me but i imagine you're talking about the glance he gives right after El Neny's header and i think he does it to see if any defender is close after looking up for a few seconds. If a United defender was closer he would not try that volley.
No arguments about the celebration here. Atkinson fecked up in the sense that he did not manage to apply his own decision in a timely manner. The end result is the correct one anyway according to the written rules.
Regardless of what he was looking for, he saw De Gea was down, it would be impossible not to and it is the only reason he felt it would be a good idea to hit a weak volley that never beats a goalkeeper just making sure he kept it in target. He clearly saw De Gea was down and took advantage, it is poor sportsmanship.
I don't see why you typed a massive paragraph arguing that he was not aware and calling me a liar when you are clearly very aware that he did know De Gea was on the floor.