Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch

Arsenal ownership is one of the worst out there. For 10 years they have neglected the team and have not been willing to buy quality players. It has been cheap solutions and or free agents for Arsenal. And unlike other big teams they have been selling their best players to other big clubs. Only when the ownership has been put under real pressure they have spend some money.

They are 3-4 years behind top 4. Even Leicester, Tottenham and Everton is getting better than Arsenal.

Watching Lego Pep murder this team further and the ownership being ok with it says everything about them.
 
Madridista2000 said:
Arsenal ownership is one of the worst out there. For 10 years they have neglected the team and have not been willing to buy quality players. It has been cheap solutions and or free agents for Arsenal. And unlike other big teams they have been selling their best players to other big clubs. Only when the ownership has been put under real pressure they have spend some money.

They are 3-4 years behind top 4. Even Leicester, Tottenham and Everton is getting better than Arsenal.
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You don't say? This can't be fixed over night?
 
Madridista2000 said:
Arsenal ownership is one of the worst out there. For 10 years they have neglected the team and have not been willing to buy quality players. It has been cheap solutions and or free agents for Arsenal. And unlike other big teams they have been selling their best players to other big clubs. Only when the ownership has been put under real pressure they have spend some money.

They are 3-4 years behind top 4. Even Leicester, Tottenham and Everton is getting better than Arsenal.

Watching Lego Pep murder this team further and the ownership being ok with it says everything about them.
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Don’t agree. They have spend a lot of money. They’ve just spent it very badly
 
They spent money this year and somehow got worse.

Why did they spend so much on a back up goalkeeper?
 
adexkola said:
Ole's resume has been denigrated by many on here. I'm not going to dig up posts here because my point isn't to compare resumes, but to say that looking at resumes is a pointless exercise. Mourinho had a better resume than Ole and failed. All that matters is how you do on the job. Pointing at the resume post-failure isn't indicative of anything.
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Someone get's it!

Past achievements are in no way shape or form an indication of future achievements, for example Pep has great CV's, however if he were to manage a lesser team with players with less ability he wouldn't be anywhere near his past achievements
 
With Ole even his detractors say that he will be leaving a great squad for the next manager.

With Arteta the squad looks abysmal and getting worse.
 
jus2nang said:
He actually stayed on too long. If he'd stepped down earlier the club just might have hired a suitable replacement.
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Why is that? What makes you think we wouldn't have got someone like Emery?
 
adexkola said:
Ole's resume has been denigrated by many on here. I'm not going to dig up posts here because my point isn't to compare resumes, but to say that looking at resumes is a pointless exercise. Mourinho had a better resume than Ole and failed. All that matters is how you do on the job. Pointing at the resume post-failure isn't indicative of anything.
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crossy1686 said:
Someone get's it!

Past achievements are in no way shape or form an indication of future achievements, for example Pep has great CV's, however if he were to manage a lesser team with players with less ability he wouldn't be anywhere near his past achievements
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I think the post you are responding to was in response to a post that was interpolating Arteta and Lampard's performance to suggest what Ole's performance at United could/will be in the near future.
 
I feel terrible with this whole Arsenal sinkhole happening so early in the season. My only regret is they'll probably replace Arteta before Bruno, Ronaldo, and Greenwood are able to take advantage of their management ineptitude at home on the 30th of November
 
adexkola said:
You don't say? This can't be fixed over night?
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Most if not all of the squad is Arteta's either by signing them or offering them a new deal (he also offered Mustafi a new deal which the German declined). The poor squad excuse just simply can't apply to him anymore with that in mind (and the squad he inherited finished two point off top four the previous year so whatever 'mess' he inherited he's made 100 times worse).
 
Dancfc said:
Most if not all of the squad is Arteta's either by signing them or offering them a new deal. The poor squad excuse just simply can't apply to him anymore with that in mind (and the squad he inherited finished two point off top four the previous year so whatever 'mess' he inherited he's made 100 times worse).
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That's madness. And now we can't even imagine Arsenal being close to top 4. That's how much their expectations have fallen.
 
ooeat0meoo said:
I feel terrible with this whole Arsenal sinkhole happening so early in the season. My only regret is they'll probably replace Arteta before Bruno, Ronaldo, and Greenwood are able to take advantage of their management ineptitude at home on the 30th of November
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United are superior team in every department it's not even particularly close anywhere on the pitch Arteta or no Arteta we should be clear favourite against Arsenal every time.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
That's madness. And now we can't even imagine Arsenal being close to top 4. That's how much their expectations have fallen.
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The most odd thing is it Arteta doesn't even have the status to earn this leeway.

It would have been one thing a section of the fanbase wrapping Henry or Vieira in cotton wool but Arteta was literally an okay player in the peak Wenger banter era (and one of DT's excuses for Arteta was he needs time to get rid of the Wenger players :lol: )
 
Why does he still have his job? Oh wait, I know why. The Kroenke's are probably upset at the thought of having to fire a guy and pay him.
 
Dancfc said:
Most if not all of the squad is Arteta's either by signing them or offering them a new deal (he also offered Mustafi a new deal which the German declined). The poor squad excuse just simply can't apply to him anymore with that in mind (and the squad he inherited finished two point off top four the previous year so whatever 'mess' he inherited he's made 100 times worse).
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And I think even then it was because they had a mini collapse at the end of the season. They really should have made top 4.

To go from that to finishing 8th twice and now sitting bottom of the table as we go into the international break, it's astonishing he's not been sacked yet.
 
Dancfc said:
The most odd thing is it Arteta doesn't even have the status to earn this leeway.

It would have been one thing a section of the fanbase wrapping Henry or Vieira in cotton wool but Arteta was literally an okay player in the peak Wenger banter era (and one of DT's excuses for Arteta was he needs time to get rid of the Wenger players :lol: )
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Exactly, the excuses made for him are just ridiculous. He has been far worse than Emery with more money and players available. The fact he did worse with the same players suggest that he indeed is inferior to the previous manager.

Also, he certainly made some odd choices in the players that were kept and the players that were sold/loaned and that is down to him.
 
Even though it is looking dire for them, it would be kind of meaningless to let him go after this start, where they have played vastly superior Chelsea and City teams with some key players missing - then they might as well have done it after last season. Next five games are Norwich, Burnley, Spurs, Brighton and Crystal Palace. If he has most players back and still don't manage to get better results and performances, of course they should let him go.
 


It really is toxic over there. Amazing that the club are allowing Arteta to carry on.
 
I think Arteta is a bad manager but I think their squad is even worse. Little depth and their defense is one of the worst in the league. Emery is a good manager, not great, but he'd do better with what they've spent than Arteta would.
 
Flytan said:
I think Arteta is a bad manager but I think their squad is even worse. Little depth and their defense is one of the worst in the league. Emery is a good manager, not great, but he'd do better with what they've spent than Arteta would.
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I'm assuming any signing would be having his blessing, no?

The squad building part from his end has been atrocious. Apart from Saka, Tierney and ESR - 2 of whom are youth academy products and hence weren't recruited, they've managed to sign just 1 player in the last 4 windows under Arteta about whom you can say, "This guy is good enough to take us to CL level"
 
duffer said:
Probably ill-advised but I can't blame him for wanting out...

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He made a mistake by insisting to play midfield and not at fullback 2 years ago but it should be over. He's not playing him so just sell him, he's litteraly costing the club 10M for his own personnal vendetta against AMN.
27 days before the liberating "Official Statement". I can't wait.
 
Still not sacked? How come?

Why don't they use the NT break to give the new manager at least some time to settle in?
 
Hasn't there always been the odd noises that Arteta is an absolutely appalling man manager?

Wouldn't surprise me if it comes out he was a Don Barker type manager (for all of you who watched dream team).
 
Arteta is acting like he is a big man when clearly in order to be one, he needs to earn the respect first because he hasn’t got the respect he deserves from those bad boys. A good example is Guendouzi would have been good backup option in midfield means they can save the money that they spent on Lokonga who is currently backup to buy somewhere else that good enough to upgrade the starting XI but he chose to get rid of him due to player’s attitude instead of finding a way to give the player second chance finding a way to find solution for the player’s attitude. The AMN is almost in similar situation. Arteta doesn’t know how to manage his players.

This is a basic management, manager needs to earn the respect from his own team members, make them happy so they can work with you and for your project. If you are already big or experienced one like Sir Alex or Pep, then you can start acting bit of c*** by giving them hair dryer and swearing at them.
 
Anything but a win against Norwich and you’d think he was done.
A. Conte just commited to Sky Sports Italy, according to Di Marzio. Maybe Conte is still available, I don’t know? Worded as a loan deal to Sky untill his next dugout from Di Marzio.
 
Dancfc said:
Hasn't there always been the odd noises that Arteta is an absolutely appalling man manager?

Wouldn't surprise me if it comes out he was a Don Barker type manager (for all of you who watched dream team).
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I have heard them as well. That's he's a bit of a cnut.
 
Cantonaaa! said:
Anything but a win against Norwich and you’d think he was done.
A. Conte just commited to Sky Sports Italy, according to Di Marzio. Maybe Conte is still available, I don’t know? Worded as a loan deal to Sky untill his next dugout from Di Marzio.
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Conte won't go anywhere near Arsenal and I doubt Arsenal would want him.
 
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