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And another long one, this on the inner-workings of Hayat Tahrir al-Sham and its evolution over the last few years:

THE PATIENT EFFORTS BEHIND HAYAT TAHRIR AL-SHAM’S SUCCESS IN ALEPPO​


https://warontherocks.com/2024/12/t...hind-hayat-tahrir-al-shams-success-in-aleppo/
Thanks a lot for the very comprehensive article.

HTS definitely has massively evolved in the past four years and let go of their most radical practices (the bar was very low) and are on a constant PR operation, but the Christians and Druzes remain second-class citizens to their eyes. There's an evident desire to be taken seriously as political actor on a domestic but also on an international level.

We'll see how it goes, but I remain highly skeptical and think that this moderation won't last once they have consolidated their power.
 
https://thecradle.co/articles/a-surprise-assault-on-syria-but-can-it-last

A good read regarding Turkish and US cooperation on this as well as Israeli threats. All three have some kind of occupation of Syria. Can't recall the Turkish position but certainly the other two. Anyway, the group is, as expected, predictably funded by the US (and obviously Turkey) here.

Thanks for the other articles 2cents. Read all of them. Well worth the time.
 
Thanks a lot for the very comprehensive article.

HTS definitely has massively evolved in the past four years and let go of their most radical practices (the bar was very low) and are on a constant PR operation, but the Christians and Druzes remain second-class citizens to their eyes. There's an evident desire to be taken seriously as political actor on a domestic but also on an international level.

We'll see how it goes, but I remain highly skeptical and think that this moderation won't last once they have consolidated their power.

I know it’s only words, not actions, but that’s really quite an important statement.
It’s a fascinating live-action test of the long-running debate over whether Islamist movements are moderated or emboldened by holding power, with all the inherent implications for policy.
 
Hama captured by the rebels, it seems.

Reports of Russia is withdrawing ships from the Tartus naval base.
 
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My contacts in Damascus are all reporting Syrian army is committing atrocities in a shopping centre and violence has erupted.
 
What does Assad's base support look like nowadays? Is it only Alawites who are willing to fight for him? Are there Sunni Arabs who support Assad?
 
It’s a fascinating live-action test of the long-running debate over whether Islamist movements are moderated or emboldened by holding power, with all the inherent implications for policy.
I've been following the rise (and inevitable fall) of different Islamist jihadist movements as far as the late 80's - early 90's, beginning with Afghanistan, and closer to us and which I find more representative, Algeria.

The latter was embroiled in a bitter civil war for more than a decade during the 90's, under the passive, if not complicit watch of the West and with the financial support of Saudi Arabia and other oil dictatorships. Their leaders were welcomed as "political refugees" in Europe, fomenting their plans from Rome, Paris, or hate preaching in the squares of London.

I personally don't believe that HTS is what it pretends to be and it will prove it if it indeed manages to topple Assad's regime. They might tone down the violence but that's about it. In my opinion, these movements are doomed to fail because they are inherently too oppressive and intolerant, with a striking affinity for totalitarianitarism, even by the region's standards.

For me HTS is nothing but a proxy backed and financed by Turkey, the oil dictatorships, as well as the US and Israel to:

- Inflict a decisive blow to Iran's and Russia's influence in the region, after Hezbollah got recently significantly weakened, Assad's regime is crippled by the US sanctions, whilst Russia is bogged down in Ukraine. It could also be the prelude to a direct military confrontation with Iran.

- Get rid of the millions of Syrian refugees on Turkey's soil.

- Get that decade old pipeline project which would run from Qatar through Syria to Turkey, aimed to allow Qatar to export their natural resources directly to Europe. A project Assad was and still is dead against, and had its own version of which included Iran and Iraq to the detriment of Saudi Arabia and Qatar.


The timing of this offensive is too convenient, and I think that HTS will be bombed ousted once it outlives its usefulness, one way or another. There's no way the US or Israel will tolerate a country in the region being led by (ex) jihadists, no matter how "presentable" they look.
 
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Homs next, although the Russians have bombed a key bridge between Hama and there.

The speed of events is astonishing. The rebels only entered Aleppo on 29th November, 6 days ago. At some point there will surely be an attempt to stem the tide.
 

They're getting hammered and retreating or surrendering without much resistance.

The Syrian Army has been in dire straits for years crippled by financial problems, corruption and nepotism and the fact that Hezbollah had to withdraw its troops from Syria because of the war with Israel isn't helping at all.
 
Homs next, although the Russians have bombed a key bridge between Hama and there.

The speed of events is astonishing. The rebels only entered Aleppo on 29th November, 6 days ago. At some point there will surely be an attempt to stem the tide.

I think this is it for Assad, I don't think there will be enough resistance from the SAA or any of their allies. Israel is blocking aid from Iran and US blocking from Iraq. It is basically just Russia with some airstrikes. And the bridge that was bombed is seemingly not so badly damaged (some videos on Twitter) and there is already fighting in Homs, by either sleeper cells or just uprising from the population awaiting the rebels. The liberated cities like Hama also have people joining in the revolution, it is an avalanche basically. I think the only way this can go wrong if there becomes some infighting between the factions with different ideologies or don't like the more progressive stance that HTS is taking. Which is likely to happen at some point, just depends on how far they get before that starts.
 
I think this is it for Assad, I don't think there will be enough resistance from the SAA or any of their allies. Israel is blocking aid from Iran and US blocking from Iraq. It is basically just Russia with some airstrikes. And the bridge that was bombed is seemingly not so badly damaged (some videos on Twitter) and there is already fighting in Homs, by either sleeper cells or just uprising from the population awaiting the rebels. The liberated cities like Hama also have people joining in the revolution, it is an avalanche basically. I think the only way this can go wrong if there becomes some infighting between the factions with different ideologies or don't like the more progressive stance that HTS is taking. Which is likely to happen at some point, just depends on how far they get before that starts.
You would hope it is the end for him. Hopefully he will flee the country and there is a bloodless transfer of power. It would also be a great shame if a great historical city like Damascus is ruined like Aleppo and other historic cities in the country due to fighting .
 
Jolani expressed a desire to see foreign forces leave Syria. There are currently forces from the US, Turkey, Russia and Iran as well as Iranian proxies in the country. “I think that once this regime falls, the issue will be resolved, and there will no longer be a need for any foreign forces to remain in Syria.”

 
Surprised this isn't getting more coverage, but the rate of collapse between Assad regime forces is staggering. His army has zero will to fight (I read their salaries are a mere $40 per month) !!!

The HTS are now in outskirts of Homs, and at this rate, Homs could fall before the weekend. I don't think Assad will see out the year.

The whole thing is bonkers. The entire civil war was in idle/frozen conflict mode for nearly 6 years, until 8 days ago. The Israel-Hezbollah ceasefire deal gets announced and then boom! .... this level of gain in 8 days is just wow.

I suspect lots of deals are being made in the background before January 20th. I wonder if Assad will resign and go on exile willingly, or will he stay, be captured and killed/executed alas Gaddafi/Saddam.

This is absolutely devastating for Mullah regime in Iran, since they will lose their biggest supply-line to Hezbollah and god knows billions of dollars they've spend over last 15 years to prop-up and keep Assad in power. Also, looks like Russia has completely given up on its ambitions in Syria and is abandoning as well with zero fighting. Which makes me think if there has been a secret deal made in the background.

A video is going viral from the predictions of a late (he passed away few years ago sadly) Iranian political commentator who predicted this.

"4H (Hamas, Hezbollah, Hashad-Al-Shabi, Houthis) + Damascus will go, before the Islamic Republic goes as well." The Shii'te caliphate is Tehran is having its own Soviet Union collapse moment. All of its tentacles and ideological empire it built and wasted all our natural resources money are collapsing one by one, and its own collapse (head of the Octopus) is next.

Curious what happens to Syria though. Will Jolani rule all of it? will it be partitioned? No way Turkey allows the Kurds to get a state. We won't have to wait too long to find out at this rate.

Middle East man ... never a boring day !
 


The scenes of prisoners getting out have been both heartbreaking and heartwarming.
 
Surprised this isn't getting more coverage, but the rate of collapse between Assad regime forces is staggering. His army has zero will to fight (I read their salaries are a mere $40 per month) !!!

The HTS are now in outskirts of Homs, and at this rate, Homs could fall before the weekend. I don't think Assad will see out the year.

The whole thing is bonkers. The entire civil war was in idle/frozen conflict mode for nearly 6 years, until 8 days ago. The Israel-Hezbollah ceasefire deal gets announced and then boom! .... this level of gain in 8 days is just wow.

I suspect lots of deals are being made in the background before January 20th. I wonder if Assad will resign and go on exile willingly, or will he stay, be captured and killed/executed alas Gaddafi/Saddam.

This is absolutely devastating for Mullah regime in Iran, since they will lose their biggest supply-line to Hezbollah and god knows billions of dollars they've spend over last 15 years to prop-up and keep Assad in power. Also, looks like Russia has completely given up on its ambitions in Syria and is abandoning as well with zero fighting. Which makes me think if there has been a secret deal made in the background.

A video is going viral from the predictions of a late (he passed away few years ago sadly) Iranian political commentator who predicted this.

"4H (Hamas, Hezbollah, Hashad-Al-Shabi, Houthis) + Damascus will go, before the Islamic Republic goes as well." The Shii'te caliphate is Tehran is having its own Soviet Union collapse moment. All of its tentacles and ideological empire it built and wasted all our natural resources money are collapsing one by one, and its own collapse (head of the Octopus) is next.

Curious what happens to Syria though. Will Jolani rule all of it? will it be partitioned? No way Turkey allows the Kurds to get a state. We won't have to wait too long to find out at this rate.

Middle East man ... never a boring day !
I think it's a bit of wishful thinking to say Iran will fall next. Iran is allied to BRICS now, so I predict a bit of laying low and accepting their place as being subservient to Russia and China, if not just to survive.

Having said that, it's a very interesting dynamic. Both Iran and Israel have lost tremendously as a result of October 7th - the former militarily, and the latter politically. Together with Russia's losses in Ukraine (and the associated sanctions), I think China has come out the strongest as the clear leader of the anti-Western alliance now.
 
I think it's a bit of wishful thinking to say Iran will fall next. Iran is allied to BRICS now, so I predict a bit of laying low and accepting their place as being subservient to Russia and China, if not just to survive.

Having said that, it's a very interesting dynamic. Both Iran and Israel have lost tremendously as a result of October 7th - the former militarily, and the latter politically. Together with Russia's losses in Ukraine (and the associated sanctions), I think China has come out the strongest as the clear leader of the anti-Western alliance now.

BRICS is a joke. It's the political equivalent of "good things are coming soon bro." There is zero military bond or even proper potential common interests that holds them together. It's one long business plan still. Even Russia and Iran, they are technically competitors in the energy sector for selling their Oil and Gas to buyers. Not to mention the issues with China and India. The only thing they whole bloc has in common is anti-Dollarism.

Syria was a million times more important to Russia's interests than Iran (the coastal line, history of cooperation of USSR and Hafez Assad) ...and Russia has completely abandoned it despite Assad begging for help in Moscow just 10 days ago.

China is a winner for sure, but they are extremely smart and nuanced not to get involved militarily. They'll find ways to work with whoever rulers the said countries have, even if there is a change of regime/leadership. Everyone will need to work with China and China will work with everyone.

I don't think Russia has any capital or motivation to defend the regime in Tehran. It's nowhere near as key as Syria was (Russia doesn't have naval bases there), and Russian officials also public humiliate their Iran regime counter-parts and treat them at literal puppets when they go visiting Moscow. (no official greeting them at airport, leaving them under the rain, just lots of Russian-style indirect insults).

Plus, Raissi was the head of Kremlin's favourite Russophile within the IRGC regime and since his death in May, lots of bi-laterial agreements between the two countries have been put on pause.

At 72 years old and after 25 years in power, Ukraine is Putin's legacy. I'm sure if he was offered a deal to compeltely abandon his interests in Middle East, in exchange of something he can sell as "victory" in Ukraine, he'll take it.

I spent some time in Russia in the past and have decent number of friends there and economic situation isn't good and there is very little appetite within the society for the current war status-quo to continue. Hence my theory of some sort of a deal being made behind the scenes.
 
BRICS is a joke. It's the political equivalent of "good things are coming soon bro." There is zero military bond or even proper potential common interests that holds them together. It's one long business plan still. Even Russia and Iran, they are technically competitors in the energy sector for selling their Oil and Gas to buyers. Not to mention the issues with China and India. The only thing they whole bloc has in common is anti-Dollarism.

Syria was a million times more important to Russia's interests than Iran (the coastal line, history of cooperation of USSR and Hafez Assad) ...and Russia has completely abandoned it despite Assad begging for help in Moscow just 10 days ago.

China is a winner for sure, but they are extremely smart and nuanced not to get involved militarily. They'll find ways to work with whoever rulers the said countries have, even if there is a change of regime/leadership. Everyone will need to work with China and China will work with everyone.

I don't think Russia has any capital or motivation to defend the regime in Tehran. It's nowhere near as key as Syria was (Russia doesn't have naval bases there), and Russian officials also public humiliate their Iran regime counter-parts and treat them at literal puppets when they go visiting Moscow. (no official greeting them at airport, leaving them under the rain, just lots of Russian-style indirect insults).

Plus, Raissi was the head of Kremlin's favourite Russophile within the IRGC regime and since his death in May, lots of bi-laterial agreements between the two countries have been put on pause.

At 72 years old and after 25 years in power, Ukraine is Putin's legacy. I'm sure if he was offered a deal to compeltely abandon his interests in Middle East, in exchange of something he can sell as "victory" in Ukraine, he'll take it.

I spent some time in Russia in the past and have decent number of friends there and economic situation isn't good and there is very little appetite within the society for the current war status-quo to continue. Hence my theory of some sort of a deal being made behind the scenes.
You are clearly more informed than me to be honest, so I'd lean more towards your expectations. It just doesn't feel like Iran are going to capitulate yet, however these things rarely seem like they're going to happen until they do - Syria a case in point right now. I genuinely wonder what would've happened if Putin hadn't decided to invade Ukraine - everything that has happened in the Middle East since then just seems to be a domino effect.
 
Apparently Assad's government forces are plucking males from the streets and forcing them to fight,
 
You would hope it is the end for him. Hopefully he will flee the country and there is a bloodless transfer of power. It would also be a great shame if a great historical city like Damascus is ruined like Aleppo and other historic cities in the country due to fighting .

Given how fast things are developing, or should I say crumbling for his regime, I don't think it is unrealistic to say he will be gone before the end of next week. Either willingly into exile or impaled Gaddafi style like @Hanks said. Unless Russia decides to go scorched earth on these cities before leaving they will probably taken without major resistance. Incredible really.

This is also a good sign:



SDF/HTS have an agreement to stay out of each others way (for the time being) - there have still been clashes with the SNA, although I don't know how that is going currently.
 
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Wow the crumbling of the Assad forces is shocking.

Not going to lie….while I was initially incredibly pro revolution…. I can’t help but feel anxious that this is going to lead to scorched earth air strikes from Assad/Russia and/or clashes between rebel groups and/or the rise of ….unsavoury groups.

We will see.

I won’t shed a single tear for Assad, whatever ends up being his fate.
 
I'm not liking this to be honest.

From my understanding the rebels right now are not the FSA or the SDF groups but offshoots of Al-Nusra and ISIS.

Islamic fundamentalism vs (somewhat) secular but murderous dictator.

Choose the poison.
 

In an ideal world all these parasitical states would be expelled and the Syrians left to their own devices, but i don't see that happen given the track record of the US and the others meddling in the region.
 
Sounding more and more like the end is nigh. He may have to high tail it back to Moscow to join Yanukovich.

 
Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy. - Franz Kafka
 
Surprised this isn't getting more coverage, but the rate of collapse between Assad regime forces is staggering. His army has zero will to fight (I read their salaries are a mere $40 per month) !!!

This will also be a template for how Putin and Khamenai eventually go down. A series of political miscalculations abroad, coupled with sanctions that increase economic and social unrest domestically, all of which become a flashpoint for either a popular coup or a military insurgency that topples the regime.
 

Nah it's too late now.

The Asad regime spilt too much blood, displaced too many people and tore apart families with oppressive imprisonments for things to ever go back to normal again.
 
Nah it's too late now.

The Asad regime spilt too much blood, displaced too many people and tore apart families with exactions and imprisonment for things to ever go back to normal again.
My memory of Fares Shehabi during the civil war is that he was among the most gratuitously vicious of the English-speaking regime propagandists online, taking delight in every massacre and atrocity.