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Music Michael Jackson is Dead (All general comment)
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what he said ----^
Life isn't fair.
'Less than four months before Jackson's death, one of his biographers, Ian Halperin, revealed that Jackson had a secret library of over 100 unreleased songs which he planned to release after his death to support his children'
Every cloud...
Every cloud...
Michael Jackson is Dead
What? Bloody Hell. Shocking news.
What? Bloody Hell. Shocking news.
There has got to be some hits in there, if not a lot of them.
Reckon he could sell a ton of records still, look at how 2Pac sold after he died, Michael will be the same way.
He's gone to the big bouncy castle in the sky.
hands up, who's read the entire thing so far?
Oh no you di'int.
Not sure if this has been posted already but its compliments of Johnno:
Newcastle Utd & Michael Jackson, doesn't matter if your black or white, both gone down in 2009
Newcastle Utd & Michael Jackson, doesn't matter if your black or white, both gone down in 2009
The difference being that 2Pac's most recent albums before he died weren't a load of self-indulgent, over-produced wank. Has Michael Jackson written a single decent tune since Bad?
Eminem is not even comparable to Michael Jackson. 70% of the population here in India don't even know who Eminem is, probably. Everyone knows who Michael Jackson is. That's how big he is, as an entertainer.
Could that not also be to do with the fact he has been through the courts countless times for various charges?
Oh and all the other crazyness that went with him...
I'm pretty sure Michael Jackson was big in India long before that.
He will undoubtably sell bucket loads of whatever new material is released. Whether it will be good enough is another matter. The thing about Tupac is that the 'classicness' of his unrealeased material owed a large debt to the production. As Tupac never produced his own beats, the best producers out there could produce amazing beats to lay his urecorded accapellas over...even then to be fair, non of the postumous stuff was particularly classic. Nothing to top Changes or Dear mama. Jackson wrote melodies, so it'll be harder to postumously improve. Same with Lennon/The Beatles unreleased stuff..It wasn't that good, hence why it was unreleased..
Your point is pretty valid. He hadn't written a decent song since the mid 90s (I'd put Smooth Criminal as his last great track, I thought Bad was rubbish...But you could push a case for Earth Song)....The limits of his song writing where fairly obvious too. He couldn't write ballads or the like. His genre was confined pretty strictly to dancefloor type stuff with fairly monotonous vocals (recently at any rate) so I doubt he'll have suddenly come up with something relevant and classic...
Regardless though, it will still sell by the shed load
Too soon for this?
Here we go. FFs, grow up and get some respect. We know the media are about to have a field day. How many stories will now emerge as to how I was abused by MJ with mothers lying through their teeth to get a bit of the action.Stories from Chauffers, bodyguards, personal assistants, doctors etc.
Story after story will emerge, most of them lies and people will start to say there is no smoke without fire.
The attorneys will be there as well representing all the scum that comes foreword with Gloria Allread at the front.
Let him go, remember his music.
Yes he was a bit weird but a lot of the stunts were orchestrated by his publisists as they are with most stars.
Please just respect him for his music.
And found "Not Guilty"
Not guilty means feck all when money, celebrity and colour are involved.
Amazing musician.
Peadophile. Simple as it gets really
Peadophile. Simple as it gets really
Money. William Kennedy looked as quilty as OJ. Tyson got a raw deal, though. I think he probably served Kennedy's crime.
Yeah was actually saying that to the missus the night the news came out. I think we're going to learn a whole lot about Jackson and his antics. People who feared coming out with the truth may be a little bit more liberal now.
And as he isn't here to defend himself, how will we know whether it's the truth or not?
No idea
What gets me is the number of people out there saying that it's irrelevent if he did anything wrong in his life - his contribution to music should gloss over any nastiness he partook in, whatever it was (if there was any at all).
And will the money grabbers even care....of course not. Everyone will be out to make what they can leeching off Jackson and the tenuous links they had to him with no worries of defaming him.
I doubt we will learn very much, simply because the newspapers will only peddle the shit that makes sales and that certain moronic section of the public will fall for it hook line and sinker until the media moves their circus onto their next victim. Pathetic really.
Shame more can't, as Bob said, respect him for his music.
They will, and his musical career deserves to be respected. But that doesn't mean his failings should be forgotten. Even if they are unfounded, the accustations against him are some of the worst possible and even if the smallest possibility they are true exists they should be brought up and not shouted down by people unwilling to accept him as anything but perfect
Child abuse of any kind is one of, if not the worst, thing that can happen IMO and I would personally like to see the harshest sentences handed down to ANYONE found guilty of such a terrible crime.
IF Michael Jackson was found guilty of such a thing I would want his balls in a vice - the fact is he hasn't.
He was far from perfect, as we all are and yes, his life was weird, so are a lot of peoples.
When you say his failings shouldn't be forgotten, I agree. But then you balls it up by adding, even if those failings are unfounded.
The changing of his skin colour after saying that it doesn't matter what colour skin you have (the disease he claimed to have doesn't do that to you - it makes you go blotchy, not bleachy), the dangling of his child over the edge of a balcony (when anyone else would probably have had their children taken away from them) - all these things paint him in a bad light.
He even admitted himself that he slept with children - the debate is whether he had sex with them. Even if you accept the not guilty verdict and so assume that he didn't, he still had an unhealthy infatuation with kids. Sleeping with them, having them round to his private theme park, giving them alcohol and calling it Jesus Juice. All of those things are facts - they don't make him a paedophile but they don't cover him in roses either.
We hear that he was little more of a child himself, which would make it easier to understand if it wasn't for the alcohol thing.
I heard a doctor say he had a skin complaint that was the reason for his skin whitening....BUT even if Jackson was pouring neat bleach on his skin what's it anyone elses business? The holding of his baby over the balcony was a stupid thing to do but to suggest that was enough to have the kid taken off him is daft as well.
I am not covering him in roses and have already said his life was weird but so are lots of people. And what do you mean, 'even if we accept the not guilty verdict'....not guilty is not guilty and I tend to put more faith in the jury that sat there for X number of days than what might be gossip in some newspaper etc.
We are NEVER going to understand him because we don't know him.
Well thats also why I say if the smallest possibility exists. He was known to sleep with young boys in his bed. There was also more than one case against him. By claiming that fact he was aquitted is complete proof nothing happened is white washing. We all know OJ was guilty, it's not an open and shut matter.
To be honest my biggest quibble with Jackson isn't the those allegations, but the fact that a clearly unstable individual, with a history of such accusations could easily precure 2 children who bared no biological resemblance to him and who's mother gave them up with no claim to them and claim they were his without anyone even investigating it..
That is a far greater injustice in my book....And it shows the power the rich and famous have over us...It was like a kid in a sweet shop saying...I want that....and like Madonna, he got it...Thats clearly wrong when it comes to the most important thing in life, the raising of children.
Who has the right to investigate it? Is it not hers and his business?
I totally agree that children are the most important thing....but are those children damaged/abused/living a shit life/in danger/unloved/uncared for? because until someone proves they are then to me it is pointless gossip/rumour and you can kind of begin to understand why he went to such lengths to protect their identity when there are people out there willing to peddle such untruths.
Like I said nobody knows how he lived his life away from the cameras and I think it's a shame to base our opinion of him on what we read in newspapers that are only there to make money.