Music Michael Jackson is Dead (All general comment)

That said, Heaps, how would you have reacted if people called Bestie an alchy and a wife-beater in a similar thread to this?

he would have been a fool if was over on some bands site getting annoyed at their fans lack of respect for bestie, this is not a jackson site, it's the genenerl in a football forum... I'm not into making jokes but I'm not going to offended on here of all the world's mental places
 
I love how some people can makes cracks at people who they consider fair game, but others are untouchable. If you've ever..EVER...made an innapropriate comment after the death of someone famous, you have no right to throw the book at Pogue or anyone else who doesn't care this man has passed.

As a child I adored Jacko, and his influence on music and dance in unquestionable and possibly unsurpassable...but as the years have passed the man has done many things which are questionable. Many things that a normal person wouldn't have gotten away with. How he has 2 white kids whose mother holds no claim over is a bizarre thing which no normal person would escape unquestioned. The man is not a saint, and his musical career should not erase his sins. Whatever they may be.

I won't stoop as far as to make a crass joke (..and I have a few) but some people should shut the feck up and stop being so damn touchy. This is an internet forum, talk of banning and the like is ridiculous. If I had the time I'd trawl through every post any of you have made mocking some one or others death or misfortune and bring it up...as I can't believe you've never made any.

Grow a few more layers of skin, cos it obviously isn't thick enough yet
 
It's absolutely inappropriate.

We should have some standards.

It has nothing to do with the individual's personal relationship with him or his music. Please don't bring this up - it holds no water with regard to counter-attacking individuals who would sincerely like to uphold some standard of ethics (not necessarily pay reverence to the life and sudden death of an iconic individual). This is a huge moment in cultural history, take note.
 
1. This is a Manchester United forum, not a Michael Jackson forum.

2. There's a difference between liking a drink and hitting your wife and fiddling with children.

Yes, of course, but Heaps said 'sorry for having a different outlook on death to some of you. Even if it was someone whom i resepected i'd act in a similiar vain.'
 
I love how some people can makes cracks at people who they consider fair game, but others are untouchable. If you've ever..EVER...made an innapropriate comment after the death of someone famous, you have no right to throw the book at Pogue or anyone else who doesn't care this man has passed.

As a child I adored Jacko, and his influence on music and dance in unquestionable and possibly unsurpassable...but as the years have passed the man has done many things which are questionable. Many things that a normal person wouldn't have gotten away with. How he has 2 white kids whose mother holds no claim over is a bizarre thing which no normal person would escape unquestioned. The man is not a saint, and his musical career should not erase his sins. Whatever they may be.

I won't stoop as far as to make a crass joke (..and I have a few) but some people should shut the feck up and stop being so damn touchy. This is an internet forum, talk of banning and the like is ridiculous. If I had the time I'd trawl through every post any of you have made mocking some one or others death or misfortune and bring it up...as I can't believe you've never made any.

Grow a few more layers of skin, cos it obviously isn't thick enough yet

Ayyyyyyyyyyyye.

I think Elvis is one of those middle class white boys :nervous:
 
That said, Heaps, how would you have reacted if people called Bestie an alchy and a wife-beater in a similar thread to this?

Although it wouldn't be great you wouldn't expect comments like that on this forum for obvious reasons.

If I saw said comments like that on a Liverpool forum, it's to be expected which is why I wouldn't have gone there in the first place.
 
Well everyone has the right to an opinion, but today three kids lost their father, sisters lost a brother, and parents lost their son.

At least let the mourning pass before you berate the guy, or perhaps the element of respect is lost on many these days.
 
I love how some people can makes cracks at people who they consider fair game, but others are untouchable. If you've ever..EVER...made an innapropriate comment after the death of someone famous, you have no right to throw the book at Pogue or anyone else who doesn't care this man has passed.

As a child I adored Jacko, and his influence on music and dance in unquestionable and possibly unsurpassable...but as the years have passed the man has done many things which are questionable. Many things that a normal person wouldn't have gotten away with. How he has 2 white kids whose mother holds no claim over is a bizarre thing which no normal person would escape unquestioned. The man is not a saint, and his musical career should not erase his sins. Whatever they may be.

I won't stoop as far as to make a crass joke (..and I have a few) but some people should shut the feck up and stop being so damn touchy. This is an internet forum, talk of banning and the like is ridiculous. If I had the time I'd trawl through every post any of you have made mocking some one or others death or misfortune and bring it up...as I can't believe you've never made any.

Grow a few more layers of skin, cos it obviously isn't thick enough yet

Well said. My thoughts exactly.

Great musician. But I have no problem making jokes about him.
 
Billie Jean was my favourite track, I used to listen to that over and over, never got tired of it. Watched the video for it about a million times as well.

I haven't really heard anything of his since I was about 12, but listening to it now makes me feel terrible. Used to adore Michael Jackson when I was a youngster
 
Elvis, did you not make jokes about Jade Goody upon her passing?
 
I'm fully aware all people are twats and act on impulses dependent on their moods.
So it wouldn't bother me to a sufficient degree to upset me.


As it happens i'm slightly pissed and feeling very dismissive.

We're all hypocrites.

How do you come to that conclusion then.
 
Ayyyyyyyyyyyye.

I think Elvis is one of those middle class white boys :nervous:

If feeling sorry for 3 kids who have lost their father, and a parent who has lost their son makes me a middle class white boy, then so be it.

I've seen what losing a child does first hand, so sorry for not making crass jokes and the like.
 
I love how some people can makes cracks at people who they consider fair game, but others are untouchable. If you've ever..EVER...made an innapropriate comment after the death of someone famous, you have no right to throw the book at Pogue or anyone else who doesn't care this man has passed.

As a child I adored Jacko, and his influence on music and dance in unquestionable and possibly unsurpassable...but as the years have passed the man has done many things which are questionable. Many things that a normal person wouldn't have gotten away with. How he has 2 white kids whose mother holds no claim over is a bizarre thing which no normal person would escape unquestioned. The man is not a saint, and his musical career should not erase his sins. Whatever they may be.

I won't stoop as far as to make a crass joke (..and I have a few) but some people should shut the feck up and stop being so damn touchy. This is an internet forum, talk of banning and the like is ridiculous. If I had the time I'd trawl through every post any of you have made mocking some one or others death or misfortune and bring it up...as I can't believe you've never made any.

Grow a few more layers of skin, cos it obviously isn't thick enough yet

At least wait til the body is cold I think is the message here.
 
How do you come to that conclusion then.

I didn't come to a conlucsion?

I basically avoided the good question with some philosophical bollocks.

For some reasn i've never been banned on here, i hope it isn't for this.
Thought it'd be for something worthwhile.
 
If feeling sorry for 3 kids who have lost their father, and a parent who has lost their son makes me a middle class white boy, then so be it.

I've seen what losing a child does first hand, so sorry for not making crass jokes and the like.

Bloody hell Elvis.

Are you grieving for all the starving kids in third world countries all day every day then?

For feck sake.
 
Elvis, did you not make jokes about Jade Goody upon her passing?

I think what I played upon was how the fact people cared about her becuase she had suddenly contracted cancer, it was laughable.

Jackson, whatever you say about him, affected billions of people, the majority of whom for the better.
 
he would have been a fool if was over on some bands site getting annoyed at their fans lack of respect for bestie, this is not a jackson site, it's the genenerl in a football forum... I'm not into making jokes but I'm not going to offended on here of all the world's mental places

The jokes don't bother me. I've made my own fair share of cnutish posts in here. But I don't believe for one minute that Heaps is totally apathetic to all deaths.
 
Bloody hell Elvis.

Are you grieving for all the starving kids in third world countries all day every day then?

For feck sake.

I don't think he's taking the piss out of them the minute they're gone is the thing though...

I dunno, some maybe going over the top. How hard is it just to let them have a day or so to come to terms with it though? All that's gunna happen is folk get heated and start snapping at each other otherwise
 
His kids will probably be better off without him anyway, in the long term.
 
Look, this is a stupid argument, it doesn't matter how bad it looked for MJ cos nothing was ever proven in a court of law. All I think we can say for sure is was one talented individual who was fecked up by fame. I'll respect him for his musical achievements as much as I will pity him for what he became over the years.
 
Bloody hell Elvis.

Are you grieving for all the starving kids in third world countries all day every day then?

For feck sake.

No, I'm not grieving, but I do whatever little I can to help.

To be honest, I don't give a feck whether you care or not, I've made my point known, just let it drop.
 
The jokes don't bother me. I've made my own fair share of cnutish posts in here. But I don't believe for one minute that Heaps is totally apathetic to all deaths.

I wasn't meaning to claim that...

Only to a partial degree...

Naturally i wouldn't be cracking jokes if my Mum passed away, but at the same time i wouldn't come on an internet forum or speak with those uneffected immediately if i was feeling so emotionally attached.
 
No, I'm not grieving, but I do whatever little I can to help.

To be honest, I don't give a feck whether you care or not, I've made my point known, just let it drop.

Right ok.

You did want me banned though...

I missed the part where i called for your head.
 
No, I'm not grieving, but I do whatever little I can to help.

To be honest, I don't give a feck whether you care or not, I've made my point known, just let it drop.

Well said mate, my opinions as well.

We mourn, leave us the feck alone.
 
I've seen what losing a child does first hand, so sorry for not making crass jokes and the like.

I think what I played upon was how the fact people cared about her becuase she had suddenly contracted cancer, it was laughable.

Jackson, whatever you say about him, affected billions of people, the majority of whom for the better.

From what I remember, you cracked jokes that directly made fun of her.

How can you justify being able to make jokes about a dying mother, but not Michael Jackson? Can you not admit that it makes you a hypocrite?

I couldn't give a shit about the jokes, I find jokes of this sort funny. I just don't see how you can revel in the joke-making of one person, yet take the moral high ground on the joke making of another.