Messi?

Mister_Stubbs said:
Lionel Messi has took a step closer to joining chelsea after Andreas Iniesta unfollowed the Argentine on instagram.
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Is this actually true? It's certainly much harder to check on instagram than on twitter, and if he's not following him, did he follow him in the first place?

I remember fans having a good a Rooney for having "Nike athlete" as his bio, with some claiming he removed Manchester United from his bio, when it was never there.
 
Red Shorts said:
What I would like to know is: who are the sad arses who monitor these sort of things?
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I don't think it's about monitoring, more fabricating this time. The fact there's been no screenshot of Iniesta's instagram account before today is telling. Looks more like he never followed Messi in the first place.
 
Right now this is in the realm of martin keown coming back to sort out Arsenal back 4.

but if he was for sale at say 150-170m im sure we would be all over it, we wouldn't take up the option on falcao and we would probably sell mata back to valencia or psg for like 25-30m to offload some of the cost.
 
Pexbo said:
£176,000,000.

There's two clubs in the world that could afford that. If Messi had decided to leave, there's only one of them Barca would sell to
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I am not sure who can afford him in view of the FFP. Chelski barely broke a profit last year... Albeit an impressive topline growth.

City and PSG? FFP restrictions. United maybe.
 
sglowrider said:
I am not sure who can afford him in view of the FFP. Chelski barely broke a profit last year... Albeit an impressive topline growth.

City and PSG? FFP restrictions. United maybe.
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Ok I'll fill in the gaps for you.

United and Real are the only clubs that can afford that in light of FFP and he won't be sold to Real at any cost.
 
It's definitely on, boys.

Jesus Christ, imagine the scenes.

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Pexbo said:
Ok I'll fill in the gaps for you.

United and Real are the only clubs that can afford that in light of FFP and he won't be sold to Real at any cost.
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No club can afford him if we talk 200+ million euros. You also have his crazy wages.
Yes, you can create actions where the richest clubs could get that money togehter.
But what would be the costs? Real and United have huge debts and specially United has owners who want profit out of their investment. You dont get that with a 200+ deal.
My Bayern have the most money if you talk club only(no owners money) and we could get him. But we would NEVER do that. He would crash the wage structure(like everywhere else) and several players would demand similar wages.
And we live in the time of FFP. Its not happening with those numbers.
IF we talk 150 million euro or less then there would be a story. But its just the English press who creates the same old Messi to the PL story they do every year(feels that way for me).
Nothing in it atm.
 
anchan1989 said:
No club can afford him if we talk 200+ million euros. You also have his crazy wages.
Yes, you can create actions where the richest clubs could get that money togehter.
But what would be the costs? Real and United have huge debts and specially United has owners who want profit out of their investment. You dont get that with a 200+ deal.
My Bayern have the most money if you talk club only(no owners money) and we could get him. But we would NEVER do that. He would crash the wage structure(like everywhere else) and several players would demand similar wages.
And we live in the time of FFP. Its not happening with those numbers.
IF we talk 150 million euro or less then there would be a story. But its just the English press who creates the same old Messi to the PL story they do every year(feels that way for me).
Nothing in it atm.
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I'm not talking about how sensible it would be.

United and Real are the only two clubs who could pay that fee and those wages and not break the FFP.
 
Pexbo said:
United and Real are the only two clubs who could pay that fee and those wages and not break the FFP.
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Weren't the numbers for last season pretty close between Bayern and United? Something like 540m Euro revenue for United and 530 for Bayern? Both clubs have similar financial power, so I don't get why you want to exclude Bayern that clearly.
 
sun_tzu said:
Yeah I know... But hear me out
With his tax issues perhaps he would consider going?
His €250m buy out clause is around £200m still a lot of money but when you think we have an option of £50m for falcao it's basically £150m more for messi... But how much more in commercial deals would messi bring in over the course of a contract (I would guess a decent chunk of money plus would existing sponsors even chip in a bit to get him there?)
Yeah it probably won't happen but perhaps financially it is not unachievable and with his tax problems perhaps there is a possibility he would leave?
feck it i say and give it a go nothing ventured and all that
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No thanks, if it's up to me.

250M is alot lots of cash, you can build a starting 11 with that kind of money, it's like 20M for every position.

He's good, close to god, but not that godly
 
Addidas should just chip in.

Imagine unveiling our first Addidas shirt with Messi wearing it. Sales would go through the roof.
 
Balu said:
Weren't the numbers for last season pretty close between Bayern and United? Something like 540m Euro revenue for United and 530 for Bayern? Both clubs have similar financial power, so I don't get why you want to exclude Bayern that clearly.
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Revenues for united shoot up this season onwards. 200m is utterly irresponsible though, and I can't see any club going that big.
 
MDFC Manager said:
Revenues for united shoot up this season onwards. 200m is utterly irresponsible though, and I can't see any club going that big.
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Bayern's growth isn't bad either though. We're debt free now after having paid off the stadium and have spent less on transfers in previous seasons, which should give us more room to work with when it comes to transfers. Obviously it's irresponsible and won't happen at all. I just find it a bit weird, that Bayern's financial power is a bit underrated here. I don't believe we're the richest club around like anchan suggests, that's nonsense in my opinion, but we're definitely competitive financially. United's biggest advantage is the global exposure of the Premier League, which gives the players a better chance to sign higher individual sponsoring contracts. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if Adidas prefered if Messi joined United over Bayern despite them being shareholders at Bayern and a longterm local partner. The company simply would benefit a lot more from Messi in a United Adidas shirt because of the global exposure of the club/league. That has nothing to do with the financial power of the club within the FFP rules though, which was what Pexbo brought up.
 
Wouldnt it be a better idea to give him a seven year contract to get around FFP? That way its only 35 odd mil. per year rather than 55.
 
Sky1981 said:
No thanks, if it's up to me.

250M is alot lots of cash, you can build a starting 11 with that kind of money, it's like 20M for every position.

He's good, close to god, but not that godly
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20mil doesnt even get you a Bony anymore.
 
MJJ said:
Wouldnt it be a better idea to give him a seven year contract to get around FFP? That way its only 35 odd mil. per year rather than 55.
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As far as I know the maximum contract length is 5 years for some weird reason. It's not allowed to give longer contracts to players.
 
Balu said:
As far as I know the maximum contract length is 5 years for some weird reason. It's not allowed to give longer contracts to players.
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Ahh fair enough. I suppose it makes sense to avoid clubs depreciating the liability too much and using it as a loophole.
 
Bayern are definitely close or on a par with United financially. FPP-wise they also have the advantage of not spunking a huge wad of cash last summer. I highly doubt they'd be interested though, given the enormous cost and risk involved. Woody on the other hand would be all over it.
 
Earthquake said:
I think it must vary by country, last summer Ryan Gauld signed a 6 year deal with Sporting in Portugal.
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I always thought the 6 year deals were either 5+option for 1 which isn't definitely binding or a 5 year contract extension in autumn/winter that comes into effect the next summer and is sold as a 6 year deal despite not being one.

The official FIFA rule:
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The minimum length of a contract shall be from its effective date until the end of the season, while the maximum length of a contract shall be five years.
Contracts of any other length shall only be permitted if consistent with national laws. Players under the age of 18 may not sign a professional contract for a
term longer than three years. Any clause referring to a longer period shall not be recognised
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http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/aff...1/95/83/85/regulationsstatusandtransfer_e.pdf
Page 19, IV/18/2.

But maybe there are some weird exceptions in some countries, it's rarely happening in the big football countries though from what I now.
 
Balu said:
I always thought the 6 year deals were either 5+option for 1 which isn't definitely binding or a 5 year contract extension in autumn/winter that comes into effect the next summer and is sold as a 6 year deal despite not being one.

The official FIFA rule:

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/aff...1/95/83/85/regulationsstatusandtransfer_e.pdf
Page 19, IV/18/2.

But maybe there are some weird exceptions in some countries, it's rarely happening in the big football countries though from what I now.
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Perhaps it has to do with that bit that says,
Contracts of any other length shall only be permitted if consistent with national laws.
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Never heard of it in any of the biggest leagues, though.
 
Surely this is a non starter? If Barca were to sell him, they can't replace him until next January.

If it's a problem between Messi and Enrique, they can bring in a new manager at any time.
 
sewey89 said:
Surely this is a non starter? If Barca were to sell him, they can't replace him until next January.

If it's a problem between Messi and Enrique, they can bring in a new manager at any time.
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That's optimistic.
 
There is no way that Barca will sell him in January, or any other time. Fans would go crazy. Plus, for that money, no club would ever buy him, it's just ridiculous.

For United, he'd only be interesting if he can play as a WB and if he fits our philosophy ;)
 
All English clubs should chip in for us to get him.

He won't go I don't think although I think he should for his own sake. What Barca fans will hope for is for Enrique to go because he looks a bit inept.
 
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