UCL is far more competitive than World Cup. Spain won the World Cup by scoring only one goal in each of the games in KO. Holland reached the final despite having a defense which would have made current's United defense look grand. Their CB were Heitinga and Mathijsen.
Messi scoring the 2nd goal in a 2-0 win = excellent
Ronaldo didn't score in 2009 and had a poor match, shooting from 40m every time the ball came near him. On 2008 he scored and played great (although almost lost the game with his pen).
I never said he's poor in big games, stop making things up. I just disagree with someone who said Messi is better in big games.
And yet Ronaldo was easily the better player over those 2 years.
My mistake, I thought you are saying Ronaldo has always been poor in CL finals.
Nah, he was crap in only 2 out of 3 finals he played in.
The fact is Ronaldo is the reigning Balon D'Or winner.
Back when Messi was winning three in a row you somehow didn't put much attention to who holds Ballon D'Or.
Back when Messi was winning three in a row you somehow didn't put much attention to who holds Ballon D'Or.
He was much better than decent and he had a great first half. Essien could not get to grips with him at all in that game. He dominated Essien in that game both physically in the air and several times in one on ones. Like I said, his first half in particular was great beating Essien many times in the air and on the ground, scoring a goal as well as providing a great cross to Tevez which if he scored would have made the score 2-0. Essien required assistance from Joe Cole and Ballack in the second half due to the torrid time Ronaldo gave him in the first half but it still didn't stop Ronaldo from beating him one-on-one on a few occasions and from providing some dangerous crosses and he also took advantage of the amount of attention Chelsea were giving him by drawing players in and then releasing Evra down the left in space. His link-up play with Evra was great in that game, finding him in space quite a few times so that he could provide a cross or cutback.
Nope, it's a fact that Ronaldo is the reigning Balon D'Or winner, it's still my opinion that he's the better player, just that it seems more and more people share that opinion than a few years ago.
So now it's a fact that Ronaldo is the best, was it a fact back then that Messi was the best? You had no issue saying Ronaldo was better despite every single thing pointing to the contrary, now you have issues when people tell you Messi has been better even these past two seasons and it's somehow not debatable. Sweet.
@Marcosdeto , is this okay, or just the one ending in "i" that is not allowed?
Ronaldo played a bigger part in Portugal progressing to the SF with a weaker side than Messi managed in the knockout stage in 2014.
As for penalties, those 2 Ronaldo missed didn't cost United. Shall I remind you of the one Messi missed against Chelsea?
This game: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/17817584
You can only beat what's in front of you. It's a matter of opinion if Spain could have won the CL if they played in it.
Yeah and my opinion is that Ronaldo-less Real Madrid would have won Champions League in 2010 and 2011 but he prevented them from having a chance.
Ronaldo got Rooney sent off to win that game against England, much more direct impact on the result than Messi managed in the knockout stage.
Fine, you're entitled to an opinion.
Ronaldo got Rooney sent off to win that game against England, much more direct impact on the result than Messi managed in the knockout stage.
That's a fact as well. My opinion though is that Coloccini is the best center half in the universe. I don't really have anything to back that opinion but nevermind.
To be fair I didn't see Argentina v Switzerland, I only saw the result and scorer.
