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Don't be silly, he's a legend, too. Messi is just a whole new level than any other player tbf.
Definitely, I'm trying to watch as much Barca/Madrid games as I can, as I know that when they retire I'll be kicking myself for not watching them enough.
He doesnt show what? He is the only force at Barcelona, he doesnt get the service like Ronaldo, he needs to get the ball and make the play for them, Ronaldo is the end-station in a brilliant team, two quite different roles.
No I dont ignore that at all, Messo had the better team (not that Ronaldo was playing with fodder), now Real has a by far better team imo. If it isnt Messi, no one will do it for them.
Are you a kid, he actually has.been scoring at similar rate, just compare their goals / game for the last season. That last argument you use is so clear of delusion, Ronaldo didnt even play the bloody final, how is that any better than Messi losing the final, Ronaldo didnt win it himself either.
Couldnt inspire a star studded Argentina team to glory, so yeah
NB - i refuse to get into the Messi vs Ronaldo debate since its subjective, just enjoy them both while theyre here than you can all circlejerk over youtube videos and come to your conclusions
Mate, 40 years from now, people in their retirement homes will still be debating this.
and since you've gone on record as saying Ronaldo is going to win the big trophies despite messi being superior tonight, how many of the big trophies did Ronaldo win during that streak? They certainly haven't won the league during it iirc
This game is up there with any CL Knock out tie match to be fair. The pressure and the intensity and a game Barcelona had to win or their chance of winning the La liga is over.
@Cal? guy to Ronaldo is like Ty to Wenger. Its so funny reading this thread nowadays. Both have been great for how long i can remember no more. But atleast @FC Ronaldo can admit when Messi played better.
Messi, for me, is the greatest I have ever seen. Ronaldo doesn't come close but neither does anybody else.
Right, stop it all of you. They are both great.
Ronaldo is taller.
Well Messi is better even at putting the ball in the net this season and I'm sure you'll still think Ronaldo is having the better season.
Ronaldo will go down as great player. Messi is the best of all time though. Hate watching ronaldo constantly whinging and waving at his team mates and playing up to the cameras. I mean that's the best team money can assemble around you. He was bearable while he was here doing the business for us but since he left I've no time for it at all. I know he's a good guy off the pitch by all accounts and always speaks highly of us but as far as football goes I'd rather watch messi any day.
I lost money on an acca tonight. Thought Barca were there for the taking but there you go backing against messi is folly. Love watching Madrid lose. Ramos, pepe, ronaldo etc they aren't all that likeable...
Take messi and ronaldo out of their teams and Barca and Madrid are pretty equal I'd say...
I lost money on an acca tonight. Thought Barca were there for the taking but there you go backing against messi is folly. Love watching Madrid lose. Ramos, pepe, ronaldo etc they aren't all that likeable...
Take messi and ronaldo out of their teams and Barca and Madrid are pretty equal I'd say...
Messi
500 goals in 577 appearances
Ronaldo
518 goals in 712 appearances
Messi is 2 years younger.
If we really want to break down the most important stat, Messi is far more impressive. He's won more silverware Both as a team and individually. When you boil it down to stats, Messi comes out on top.
Not that it matters because all you need is a working set of eyes to see who the better player is especially after tonight. If Ronaldo were as good as Messi, he'd have been able to do what Messi did tonight and lead his team almost sinhlehandedly to victory.
500 goals in 577 appearances
Ronaldo
518 goals in 712 appearances
Messi is 2 years younger.
If we really want to break down the most important stat, Messi is far more impressive. He's won more silverware Both as a team and individually. When you boil it down to stats, Messi comes out on top.
Not that it matters because all you need is a working set of eyes to see who the better player is especially after tonight. If Ronaldo were as good as Messi, he'd have been able to do what Messi did tonight and lead his team almost sinhlehandedly to victory.
If you think that's a fair assessment of their relative teams, I've nothing to add.
Before Xavi got old, Messi basically played with the team that won the WC and Euro without him. One of the most successful international teams ever.
Whilst the Real Madrid side is probably better nowadays, it's crazy to suggest Messi plays with some no marks, most of them won a Treble not so long ago, did people claim his team mates where useless then?
He did win La Decima and the 11th. No?
Considering I have said a few times Messi is having a better season, I don't know how you got that idea from.
Are there any non-Real supporters who thinks Ronaldo is the best? Don't think I've met any. I was under the impression that a clear majority would choose Messi but I guess it's tighter than that since it can inspire such discussion.
Anyway, Messi is the GOAT, obviously.
Anyway, Messi is the GOAT, obviously.
That's right, of course it's the same for Ronaldo playing for a United side in the midst of rebuilding and Messi playing in the Ronaldinho inspired Barca who won the lot anway. Great comparison.
One game?! Where were you when he was mopping about doing nothing in 2 games against Juve?
This thread is completely shit! Ronaldo was not the best out of the pair tonight, and that is fine.
These 2 are monsters and I'm genuinely glad that I've witnessed both in their prime years.
Now you've just decided to invent what I said?
I've said a few times that Messi is having a better season.
You might think Maradona was a mediocre player then
I was watching highlights of all the other times he's been better than Ronaldo in el Classico.
I dont know what point you are trying to make or what point I made that disputes that.. You are clutching at trophies won, whilst I find that a bit irrelevant if you want to talk about them individually as their team plays a huge factor in those achievements. As players, individually, for me it's obvious Messi is a better player, and most stats say so too. Assists per 90 mins, key passes, dribbles, chances created, goal scored etc, but also when you just watch them play,its apparent.
- Both have contributed to winning 3 CL's.
- Ronaldo has 4 league titles. Messi has 6 league titles to which he actively contributed.
- Messi holds the record for most goals in a season and calendar year.
- Ronaldo has 1 international title but went off injured in the final.
A summary of important stats. And Messi is 2 years younger.
- Ronaldo has 4 league titles. Messi has 6 league titles to which he actively contributed.
- Messi holds the record for most goals in a season and calendar year.
- Ronaldo has 1 international title but went off injured in the final.
A summary of important stats. And Messi is 2 years younger.
Then why did you say Ronaldo is the best player in the world right now after the Munich game? That was you only, right?
Messi played six games in the 2006 UCL title (what would be his 4th), ask Asier del Horno about that
Ah so he did have a noteworthy contribution to that CL campaign?
Messi vs Ronaldo is like Ferrari 458 vs Daihatsu. Messi is better by a good margin.
Ronaldo is a goal machine. When he's not scoring, he's not really up to much. Messi, on the other hand can control games, create chances and score goals out of nowhere like tonight.
Both fantastic players and its a joy to watch both, but for me, Messi, when playing like how he did tonight, is a class above anyone.
Both fantastic players and its a joy to watch both, but for me, Messi, when playing like how he did tonight, is a class above anyone.
If he were there wouldn't an endless debate about who is better. In truth, it is pretty subjective depending on which year and circumstance you're in.
You said Messi used to have the better team mates yet Ronaldo now has by far the better team.
Clear distortion of events, the gap between Barca back then and Real is much much bigger than Real and Barca now.
Leaving the aside all the Messi v Ronaldo stuff, it's stats like that that make me call bullshit on the merits of Pele's goal tally.
He played 6 games, scored a goal, assisted 2 and got Del Horno ejected in the round of 16.
He was even a nominee for the 2006 UCL team of the year, if Real Madrid had won last year UCL but Ronaldo got injured missing the las 5 games would you discount him the title?
He is the best player in the world having a poor season.
One of the things Ronaldo supporters usually say is " the point of football is to score goals and Ronaldo does it better" then you realize that since 2009/10 messi has 420 goals in 416 appearances for Barcelona and Ronaldo has 395 in 387 games for Real Madrid and that trump card disappears.
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