What? As if he's the only one.
Messi v Ronaldo | Contains double your daily salt allowance
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How long ago was that?
So it's back to Messi's terrible team mates?He elevated the team, but not that high I guess.
it's simple, you take Messi out Barcelona and they are nothing, Real Madrid without Ronaldo it's still top 5 in the world.
oh god this is tedious.
terrible no, mediocre absolutely, Argentina nt is shite for example.So it's back to Messi's terrible team mates?
It doesn’t matter, the point is you don’t always get to the semis or finals. Ronaldo had a better season than Messi(trophy wise) last year. But messi is still the better player. Just more talented that’s all. There’s really not much Ronaldo can do as messi was born with gifts that Ronnie simply doesn’t have. Ronaldo is still undoubtedly an all time great though
There you go.So it's back to Messi's terrible team mates?
Ronaldo is a top player there is no denying that
He's not even the best Ronaldo and people are calling him better than Messi which is an insult to Messi and The origonal Ronaldo
He's over rated for me purely because people throw him into these debates when he doesn't belong there
Barcelona without Messi dominated Juve away from home just a few weeks ago..
The Barca side a few years ago without Messi basically won the World Cup and Euro. Yet the Messi brigade insisted Messi should get all the credit and it didn't matter that Ronaldo's team mates were nowhere near as good.
Now apparently Ronaldo's team mates have won everything, despite the fact that they certainly wouldn't have got anywhere in the CL without him.
Agreed but it's surprising how many neutrals think Ronaldo isn't just better but the best of all time.
How is this even a debate anymore? Messi is the GOAT, Ronaldo top5 at best
Messi is the GOAT, Ronaldo top5 at bestCan't say I've met any "neutrals" who think Ronaldo is better. The only people I've come across who think that are a few members on here who are literally in love with him to the point they'll cry if you criticise him. Cal? And SirAF for example
That's bullshit.
More talented does not mean better. Adriano was probably more talented than Shearer, was he better?
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Well, when you put it like that... it's true. I wonder if when Messi retires, Barcelona will struggle for some years kinda like us with sir alex.
It is still arguable that Ronaldo is the best goalscorer in the history of football though.. even if Messi beats him in everything else. Although that it's Messi who scored 50 goals in a la liga season and 91 goals in a calendar year, not Ronaldo.
Ronaldo would run circles around C. RonaldoMore talented does not mean better. Adriano was probably more talented than Shearer, was he better?
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Exactly, I think Modric is better than Ronaldo, so he isn't even the best player in his team.
Another point about the Messi brigade is that they seem to be only capable of making their points by making ludicrous points. As above, Cristiano Ronaldo worse than Luiz Ronaldo?
I've not seen any "Ronaldo fan" say Messi is worse than Kaka or comments like that.
I've not seen any "Ronaldo fan" say Messi is worse than Kaka or comments like that.
Messi was actually playing as a CM for the majority of last season
Enrique and the directors had so badly miss managed the team Messi was having to start all their attacks for them and still do all the goal scoring
He was everywhere on the pitch it was insane how he was playing, no other player could even come close to him last season
Ronaldo needs to score to influence a game while Messi doesn’t, that’s the big difference.Now apparently Ronaldo's team mates have won everything, despite the fact that they certainly wouldn't have got anywhere in the CL without him.
Inzaghi scored in big CL games, that does not make him an all time great.
What makes a player an all time great is their overall play, where Messi is clearly ahead of Ronaldo.
The fact you think C. Ronaldo is a better player than Luiz Ronaldo is a scary thought
I kinda agree that at his best, the ''fenomeno'' Ronaldo was a better dribbler than Cristiano and probably more explosive, BUT... there's no question for me C.Ronaldo is a better finisher, Ronaldo scored alot of great goals, but Romario missed alot less than him, Romario is probably the only one who I would compare with C.Ronaldo inside of the box.
Why is it that it's always Messi who has terrible manager after terrible manager? Despite that being the same one who won them a Treble?
With Argentina it's always the terrible managers' fault that they fail in every tournament.
Anyone who thinks Ronaldo needs to score to influence a game shouldn’t even be talking about this.
Luiz Ronaldo isn't even on the same level as Cristiano & co.
A lot of people seriously over-rate him due to "what could have been..." rather than how good he actually was.
So one treble means he can never be a bad manager?Why is it that it's always Messi who has terrible manager after terrible manager? Despite that being the same one who won them a Treble?
With Argentina it's always the terrible managers' fault that they fail in every tournament.
Despite the fact he had probably the strongest trio in attack of all time to help him win it
After his first year they steadily declined each season a treble won't change that
No, the best players make the difference on the biggest stage.
His prime didn't last long but it was definitely at a level that C. Ronaldo would not be able to match
He was a one man army it was scary how devastating and effective he was
Can I argue that at Manchester Ronaldo better or is Messi early years at Barça kinda in the shadow due to people remembering Ronaldinho more ? Maybe Messi was already that good in his overall play but dinho makes people forget
I dunno what is more embarassing @Vialli_92 underrating Cristiano or @Cal? underrating Ronaldo.
I am just pointing out that it's quite interesting that despite playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world with one of the biggest budget, Messi continually gets such terrible managers (in the opinion of his brigade).
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But messi didn’t waste his talent like Adriano. He’s made the most of it. Which is unfortunate for Cristiano. As I said there’s not much more Ronnie can do. Hard work has took Ronnie to heights he should not be. messi simply is a more gifted footballer. And it’s noticeable difference in talent
Even Luiz Ronaldo's best season ever doesn't compare to any of Cristiano's in the past decade.
Messi was always viewed better than Cristiano in most of the footballing world, even when they were young, it was only English Premier league snobs who had different views until that night in Rome.
Can't believe the debate is still on, have to give credit to the two or three Cr's fans, they are very tenacious. Congrats
Messi at 2 years younger has achieved as much as Ronaldo while holding the records for most goals scored in a calendar year & standard season year. Messi's become as good as Ronaldo used to be at freekicks. Messi's as good as Ronaldo at scoring from outside the box.
Ronaldo's run last season in the CL was genuinely fantastic but overall career wise Messi edges it for me.
Ronaldo's run last season in the CL was genuinely fantastic but overall career wise Messi edges it for me.
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