Why does Siddle blow so hot and cold?
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Brilliant catch Siddle, Johnson gets Bell in the same way he got Collingwood - 286/5.
WOW...some close decisions in this session......save by a no ball.
Incredible, Johnson gets Prior with a great delivery but the umpire refers it himself and it's a no-ball. Penny for Ricky's thoughts ...
England trying their best to let Australia back into this, sloppy session there really need these two to get that lead up to 300, and it has to be said Paul Collingwood needs to be dropped, the man is not a test match number 5 batsmen not in this form, 9 tests without a 50 is awful, hes contributing nothing with the bat and you cant be carrying someone every single test match, maybe not this series but after the Ashes id bring in Morgan move Bell up to 5 and say thanks for the service to Collingwood in tests.
Oh yeah and Ricky Ponting, grade A twat of a man, who the hell does he think he is abusing the umpires for making the CORRECT decision, really annoys me the way he considers himself above the law and attacks umpires decisions like that hes an arsehole of a man absolute bellend of a man and i hope hes sacked after losing the ashes and retires because everyone can see the mans a batting has-been.
The umpire should have no right to make a call like that. It should be up to the batting or bowling side and I completely agree with Ponting. Absolute disgrace, if the Umpire hasn't called it a no ball he should not be allowed to interfere. A simple case of know your place. He should be reprimanded severely because of it.
Im talking about Pontings disgraceful rant after the Pietersen referral where it was proved he hadn't hit the ball yet Ponting was ranting and raving at Aleem Dar and Tony Hill for 10 minutes relentlessly afterwards even though the world and his dog could see Pietersen hadn't hit it.
As far as i saw there was no fuss about the no ball, it was just a no ball, it was not out an illegal delivery.
Fair enough then. Most aussies think the guys a cnut mind you 'so do i'
But towards the no ball, umpires shouldn't be allowed to go up stairs to check. He either calls it or not. Only the batting or fielding sides should be allowed to appeal.
It wouldn't have mattered either way. His gut feeling was no-ball, and he would probably have given it if pushed. Going to video gave the Aussies the benefit of doubt, not England.
Ponting has to be the most hateful man in world cricket.
Oh and Trott >>>>>> Australia's entire 11.
Oh and Trott >>>>>> Australia's entire 11.
Lead over 300 with five first inning wickets remaining......a long road back for the Aussies now.
Bed time for me.
Bed time for me.
It's a new rule put in place in October.
Pretty sure Clarke was given a reprieve in India when Bowden took it upon himself to refer a no ball. Give it up march-91
You mean like day 1 when the umpire making a refferal saved the Aussie batsman (can't recall who) when he was unsure if it carried through to Swann?
Sour grapes.
Another excellent day for England leaving Australia with no where to go. England will be looking for a lead of around 450 and put Australia in some time after lunch. Australia will need to bat through at least 6 sessions to have any chance of saving the match. Batting will be very tricky under that kind of pressure for any batting line up let alone this Australian one.
Hehe, is Marchi making a tit of himself in YET ANOTHER thread?!
Only the weather saves Australia for me, don't know what the forecast is but I presume that's not a factor
Only the weather saves Australia for me, don't know what the forecast is but I presume that's not a factor
When does everyone think we should declare? Two more sessions, with hopefully a lead of ~600? 7 sessions should be more than what the Australians can survive.
If we win this test, we retain the ashes right?
Ps, Ponting is so detestable.
If we win this test, we retain the ashes right?
Ps, Ponting is so detestable.
Yes, a win here retains the Ashes. I think try and knock off 100 runs before lunch then declare. A lead of 450 should be enough on any pitch, and the Aussies would have to bat for 8 and a bit sessions.
Pretty sure Clarke was given a reprieve in India when Bowden took it upon himself to refer a no ball. Give it up march-91
I don't agree with it then either. The umpire should not be allowed to be aided by video technology. All it does is lead to weak decision. I mean why even fecking bother having them there. It makes them almost completely obsolete.
It makes perfect sense. With only technology, the delays would be ridiculous. If that decision had been final and the wicket stood then we'd have been reeling over here on bad umpiring.
He used the technology he has available to him to make the perfectly correct decision and the only reason you don't agree with it is because it doesn't suit you.
How long before every marginal ball is sent up to the video umpire? Its exactly the same debate the commentators where having in Perth about umpires and their new found get out of jail free card.
We should be reeling about weak as piss umpiring. I don't see how umpires like Dickie Bird could do it for years yet this current crop can't.
Ponting is a fecking cnut, why he didn't argue with the umpires when the exact thing happened in India with Clarke
Hypocrite.
Hypocrite.
Presumably he made lots of incorrect calls, as anyone would.
Sorry, but this feels very like displaced anger about you getting battered (so far). It was the correct decision, surely that's more important.
What do you expect from a has been, on the verge of becoming the first Australian captain to lose 3 ashes series and finally being found out for the fraud of a captain he's been for all these years? When he lost his mates Warne, McGrath, Hayden and Gilchrist he lost all of his captains. They kept him in line and offered proper tactical advice. Now he's got pathetic hangers on that suck up to him because he's the great Ricky Ponting. The writing was on the wall when he came out and said he didn't think Johnson should have gone after the first test as to not disrupt team moral. I'm sorry but if you're clearly not up to it, you shouldn't be in the team.
Siddle will keep his spot again after this first innings for the next couple of tests regardless of how shit he's been since the first innings in Brisbane.
I've made my feelings quite clear on the previous page about us being battered. To me theres that much shit in this Australian side that its a deserved battering that should have come much sooner.
I still don't like the fact that umpires regardless of who's the beneficiary, should be able to go up to the third umpire to make sure they don't cock it up. You make the call or you don't.
So, you're against referring of run outs as well then
What matters is getting the correct decision as often as possible, regardless of how it's achieved
You're only saying that because it affected your team, had it be other way around I suspect you would've lauded the decision. The call was right...and Ponting and the rest should just accept it.
Was it the third test when he came into the reckoning in the Ashes two years ago where in his second innings in his test debut, against Australia, he got something like 146?
Basically he is like Pietersen, but without the need to try and be flashy and mess things up. I recall we lost a test against India a couple of years ago and during the game Pietersen was batting for fun but because he was trying to be clever he went for a six when on 94 but got himself out - he would have been batting all day the rate he was going.
He hasn't got an once of Pieteren's talent.
Though he appears to be more reliable, i.e. he has ability like Pietersen and durability like Collingwood - I always loved him against Australia basically holding the game up by getting a half century but taking 250 balls to do it.
Final test at the Oval.
Pietersen's holing out on 94 (96?) was against South Africa in a match that South Africa won by 5 wickets I think. It may have been at Trent Bridge.
You think Dickie Bird never made any mistakes? It was brilliant that the umpire could call on this technology.
Let's say, in the Umpires mind, he thought it was a fair ball and was going to give it as out but had a little bit of doubt in his mind so instead of giving out he reviewed it. The review made bad umpiring, good umpiring.
You can whinge about it all you like but there is one undeniable fact. The decision was correct. All your whinging is doing is making you look like an idiot that wants umpire errors to save your team from it's poor performance.
Well but for bad weather or some form of miracle England should have retained the Ashes, with a full 3 days left and England closing in on a 400 run lead they surely cant lose from here, bat on tomorrow in the first session get the lead over 400-450 declare get Australia in for if needed 8 sessions and the best part of 3 days to bowl them out.
Can see Ponting retiring after this series after getting the sack as captain, Australia dont keep former captains around history shows that so could be the last we see of the cnut.
Can see Ponting retiring after this series after getting the sack as captain, Australia dont keep former captains around history shows that so could be the last we see of the cnut.
It is us though, never has a country been so adept at snatching defeat from the claws of victory as England that most majestic and green nation.
Right... and the only reason you're not whinging is because it saved yet another middle order collapse from the english batsmen
. Your accusations go both way. But of course, lets completely negate the fact i've already stated i'd love to see this Australian side get flogged to remove the dead wood from CA well before this incident. My complaint is not about today only its about the whole referral system for the umpire. It almost completely negates the point of him being on the pitch. Why don't we just put all 3 up in the box and do it from there I don't mind the use of the 3rd umpire for catches or stumpings etc, but for something that can happen on each and every delivery regardless of the outcome is ridiculous. In the same guise I can understand goal line technology and video ref in football but if we where to then move that technology to the side line then whats the point of the side line refs.
Right... and the only reason you're not whinging is because it saved yet another middle order collapse from the english batsmen
I don't mind the use of the 3rd umpire for catches or stumpings etc, but for something that can happen on each and every delivery regardless of the outcome is ridiculous. In the same guise I can understand goal line technology and video ref in football but if we where to then move that technology to the side line then whats the point of the side line refs.
An umpire referral worked against us a day earlier, where is our complaint?
I wasn't at home... I left when Shane Watson got out and didn't switch the tv back on until just before Johnson was gone after lunch. I wanted to know what the feck had happened to the cricket team.
I dead set knew nothing about this rule until yesterday. I've never seen a decision like that. Had no idea about the one in India with Clarke had every actually happened.