My guess would be the Bailly story. If I remember correctly the first article about Maguire selection upsetting teammates didn't openly mention Bailly but mentioned that it was a senior player that was fit, iirc Bailly was the only left.
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My guess would be the Bailly story. If I remember correctly the first article about Maguire selection upsetting teammates didn't openly mention Bailly but mentioned that it was a senior player that was fit, iirc Bailly was the only left.
fecker literally goes AWOL at AFCON, no one can find him, comes back injured and then has the gall to say "why is Maguire getting selected'
That should amount to breach of contract and the fecker doesn't get a dime.
But we coped better with it, clearly. Why, otherwise, were we better away than at home?
It's not about level or reputation but character/temperament. Take PSG between 2012 and 2015, one of the main leaders and captains was Zoumana Camara, I bet that most of you have no idea who is but he was liked and respected by the likes of Ibrahimovic, Maxwell, Thiago Motta or Thiago Silva.
That's a bizarre point and irrelevant to the larger content of the article, every team was playing behind closed doors.
If United's 2nd place finish was false then by that logic I suppose Liverpool and City's titles wins over the last 2 years have been false as well. I can get on board with that.
Is this irony? It is all on players. Behaviour on and off the pitch.
Hard to read that was,perhaps if some players worked as hard on their game as they do running to journalists,they might improve,its scary that so many of our players are always looking to pass the blame elsewhere and not take responsibility.
We need ETH to take charge of the dressing room and get rid of some of the entitled prima donnas.
There is a desperate need for players with hunger and fight,players who put the team first,I was around for the relegation and that time had nowhere the talent this lot have but at least they fought for the team and cared for the team,they just weren't very good
We need ETH to take charge of the dressing room and get rid of some of the entitled prima donnas.
There is a desperate need for players with hunger and fight,players who put the team first,I was around for the relegation and that time had nowhere the talent this lot have but at least they fought for the team and cared for the team,they just weren't very good
These stories are all so convenient. Not past the realm of possibility, of course, but just so convenient
The Elanga comment suggest that the leaker is a senior player who plays in his role. I doubt its mata (if he wanted to kick a fuss he would have done it ages ago) or sancho (he was getting games) which suggest Lingard or Rashy. Rashy is the one who refused to celebrate a goal.
I'd say we should do what SAF did with McGrath and we should get rid of both. In that way we would drive the message through that no one is bigger then the club. At that point everyone would learn that no one is safe
I'd say we should do what SAF did with McGrath and we should get rid of both. In that way we would drive the message through that no one is bigger then the club. At that point everyone would learn that no one is safe
It doesn't. It could easily be a CB or CM who thinks that Elanga isn't the best option if the team wants to win. It's not different to when you play Football, you don't just care about where you play, you also care about who you are playing with.
I always suspected we would have problems once the crowds were let back in.
On another note, I can’t really be mad at players for being unhappy with Maguire being constantly selected despite the number of disasterclasses he has served up. That’s a managerial failure.
Pogba apologising to Ragnick after the senior players “ambushed” Ragnick without the captain seems like something he’d do. He’s always come across as a polite guy. I wonder who was the player trying to “hijack” it though
Pogba apologising to Ragnick after the senior players “ambushed” Ragnick without the captain seems like something he’d do. He’s always come across as a polite guy. I wonder who was the player trying to “hijack” it though
It's pretty damning reading. Ragnick may not have delivered on the pitch but he has hit a home run in terms of weeding out the poisonous characters in the club. We know exactly who needs to go and can finally start the process of rebuilding under a manager who has actually been appointed properly.
In contrast to the Luckhurst player driven narrative about a clueless Rangnick, we get this from Whitwell
The amount of snakes we have in the dressing room is more than I initially thought.
I doubt it. Elanga is not Messi but was given games based on merit. Also this squad comes across as selfish. All they care about is not winning but who is keeping them out of the team
That reads like there's not one leaker anyway, seems like a culture of leaking when things aren't going your way. It's all very odd to be honest, I have no idea what happens from here. I hope people leaving relieves some of the fractures, but feck knows.
Good coaching could be a reason, maybe?
It kind of does, a CM or CB wouldn't mind him playing because he protects the CM or CB alot more than some other forwards.
Also, the player also questioned why Maguire plays, so I doubt its a CB. It wouldn't be a CM because I don't think a McFred would care if Elanga plays.
No. Players were alright. the manager was worthless.
Or it could be one leaker and Luckhurst is making it sound like its a culture.
We cannot be sure, he is just a mouth piece. It is clear that the player that is leaking this is upset that he didnt get game time.
They would mind it if they don't rate him which is what the article suggests. CM and CBs don't want to be "protected", they want to play in a winning team with a winning formula.
Based on what? Laurie Whitwell's piece in The Athletic suggests the exact opposite in fact, saying that Rangnick actually spent too much time and effort on trying to keep players happy for much of his reign. It also says that he now regrets that, which was obvious anyway from his recent interviews.
Are you sure? When you are playing in a team with Rashford Lingard and losing goals left right centre?
When you are not winning games, you need your forward players to protect you.
its clearly Rashford or Lingard.
That's your perception from the outside, in truth you have no idea about whether it was on merit or not. For all you know players thought that an other player was performing better on the training pitch or didn't rate his performances.
The bolded part!The player that questioned Maguire is rumoured to be Bailly.
And he is named. I wonder why the players questioning Elanga aren't named.
Deleted the last post because the links aren't clickable, so it's annoying to read. I'll just copy it here...credit to /u/9solskjaerhaswonit9 on Reddit.
Yes, that sounds about right.
Ole seems to have fancied himself a SAF style manager, leaving certain details to his coaches (both in terms of general training and match preparation).
I also agree that it's far too simple to just dismiss our results in '21 and '20 as Covid-related coincidence. We clearly weren't the 2nd best team in the country in '21 and perhaps not the 3rd best team in '20 either - but it wasn't pure luck either. They did something right - but it obviously wasn't sustainable. And the long-term "cultural" change seems to have been as illusory or flimsy as Ole's alleged plan to make us the most hard working team in the league, etc.
The Draper aticle from the mail gives context to this episode. There was a story that broke befire the City game about Maguire. The words used in the story gave away the source. Apparently, everyone knows who went to the papers with it
I would guess those players met Camara there. Bringing in a new player from a lesser team and making him captain before he has established himself looks like a bad move to me
Yes, I'm sure. We finished with the 8th defense and the 8th offense, we needed to score and create goals as much as not concede. So you can bet that more than one person at United is upset about the way we attacked and failed to score.
In Rangnick’s opinion, United’s results were being affected by a fractured squad put together by five different managers")
This is the genesis of our problem.
Exactly. The defence who keep conceding goals would not be saying you need to score more goals whilst conceding loads of goals.
Regarding a defender asking, you do realise that Lingard and Rashford who were backup have had a terrible season too? Worse than Elanga.
I don't think that the move changes much when it comes to genuine leadership. You wouldn't respect someone authority/leadership just because they were there and you wouldn't do for years, your opinion would change with deeper mutual experience.If anything the angle that you are using is problematic because it's superficial coming from Leciester doesn't mean that you are not a respectable leader, the issue for Maguire is that he seemingly isn't a leader at all and wasn't seen as a leader at Leicester. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the reason Maguire ended up with the armband is his transfer fee and the presumed idea that "star" players are supposed to be the leaders in a group.
Of course the defense would say that you need to score more goals, I really hope that you don't think footballers only think about their own position when it comes to winning or losing. And I used CM and CB as an example, in a post where I said that it could be anyone, I didn't and I'm not telling you that it is a CB.
11 teams were better away than at home in 20/21 - and we werent' even the best one. City had more away points than we did (and more points than they had at home), and Everton had a better away/home differential than we did. Also, it's not that unusual - there were 5 teams this season too who had more points away than at home.
Premier League - home and away tables - historical 2021 (soccerstats.com)
Premier League - home and away tables (soccerstats.com)