What an absolutely shite, tabloid-level article of conjecture and bollocks. The Athletic article that has similar themes is so much more informative and less sensationalized.
MEN: Inside the worst Man Utd season in decades
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Was Maguire carrying a serious injury ? How many games did Maguire get injected?
This was the worst season. Moyes season was bad but everyone knew that squad was on it's last legs and needed heavy investment. This seasons squad was meant to challenge for something but instead we were given the most un-united side I've witnessed in my 35 years of support.
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No player is going to turn that down and yes, maybe Rashford did want to play all the games when he was carrying an injury but Ole could have overruled him. Sir Alex always said that he would never have managed Michael Owen the way Liverpool did when Owen was a kid and that he held them responsible for Owen's injury issues. Perhaps the same could be said for Rashford? I don't know, i think it's possible. The double fracture incident seems crazy looking back at it.
I think going into that season with Rashford, Martial and Greenwood was a big mistake; all were young players suddenly expected to be the big stars of the team and it's all gone very wrong for them since. The planning by the club has been terrible for years and years now.
I think so as well
A strong manager would have put his foot down if the player is injured but where national teams are concerned the club don't have much of a say.
Like when Fergie told Sven not to take Rooney to the 2006 WC
Thats again not true. VVD was back to fitness back end of last season, instead of saying I will be fit for Euros, he decided that he will miss the Euros and work on his fitness to get back for the start of the season.
Rashford would have had a chat and Southgate would have said, you are not starting games.
VVD had just come back from a major injury though, Rashford was playing on with injuries and probably thought another few games wouldn't matter. Big difference.
So the theory that No player will turn that down is false.
Rashford is a culprit, not surprising. The bigger culprit is Ole who pandered to him. Should have benched the fecker when he was clearly unfit and needing treatment. Instead played him and allowed his laziness.
No player carrying niggling injuries and where surgery could be delayed would turn that down. A player coming back from a career damaging injury however ...
He’s spot on in that respect.
Isn't that what I said? Where national teams are concerned clubs don't have much of a say. Strong manager can put his foot down with the player. If the players want to go then they will go.
It all comes back to the owners.
They own us and allowed ED to be top club man.
Ed had no idea and thought it was all about £££ so passed the buck down to ** managers. Give them some ££ and they'll do it for me. Building a football team is not the same as buying companies
*** managers had no clue how to play the Utd way and simply spent money like crazy on any big name available. Did they fit the system? Were they coming for the right reasons? Who cares.. Ed didn't even know what a system or style was..
Then the owners decided the player was King. They had all the power. If they wanted a manager out..out they went. If they wanted to play they played. New contracts, give them out.
Now we are left in the *** where each manager is starting behind the 8 ball. So many ***, moaning playing on huge, fat contracts that the owners refuse to offload.
This will take 3+ years to clear up. Hopefully they have really started this time.
They own us and allowed ED to be top club man.
Ed had no idea and thought it was all about £££ so passed the buck down to ** managers. Give them some ££ and they'll do it for me. Building a football team is not the same as buying companies
*** managers had no clue how to play the Utd way and simply spent money like crazy on any big name available. Did they fit the system? Were they coming for the right reasons? Who cares.. Ed didn't even know what a system or style was..
Then the owners decided the player was King. They had all the power. If they wanted a manager out..out they went. If they wanted to play they played. New contracts, give them out.
Now we are left in the *** where each manager is starting behind the 8 ball. So many ***, moaning playing on huge, fat contracts that the owners refuse to offload.
This will take 3+ years to clear up. Hopefully they have really started this time.
I’m going to find it hard to get behind Rashford at all now, he is one of the main culprits here. I want him gone immediately. The hero worship of him never sat well with me, signs his name on the bottom of a few letters written by his representatives and gets treated like Nelson fecking Mandela for it.
Somewhere a streaming service CEO is furious that they missed out on a Emmy for Best Drama had they been behind the scenes this season.
Wut?
I am surprised to see even his critics in this thread speaking like his school meals campaign was his own work.
I don't doubt that maybe he suggested to his PR team he was passionate about it, wanted to do something about it etc. but all those tweets with him taking on MPs etc, I cannot square that with the guy we see on the pitch nowadays, who briefs against his own managers to excuse his own shite performances and who recently gave abuse back to fans.
I feel like a sucker for ever believing it was real.
This is why Rangnick didn't play more youth players. The environment wasn't great and he didn't want to ruin them.
He led a campaign to make sure poverty stricken kids didn’t go hungry. That was generally considered a ‘good’ thing to do. This shouldn’t be controversial. A rare moment of pride for lots of United fans if not for you.Wut?
Rashford was with the squad yesterday. He just wasn't in the XI or on the bench.
Sorry to hear that.
Just had to laugh if people believe that shit. Because then the same hierarchy went on and hired a new guy with even more demanding.
Not this revisionism again.
It didn't need much at all to stay near the top, it only needed a couple of players to go for the league again.
To take that squad to 7th was near to criminality.
What do you think of him being a prime suspect in causing disharmony in the dressing room?
Papus! He was involved in one of the most wholesome interviews of all time with Ibrahimovic. Good mention.
Ibrahimovic and Camara on Tv 2014
Also take note that the clip is from february 2014 and Zlatan arrived at PSG in august 2012 so after 18 months his french was already better than Tevez after 7-8 years in England or Bale after 7-8 years in Spain.
Back to the thread: I'm 100 % sure it's the british lads behind "specs". Being fluent in english, though not native, I can't imagine myself using specs as an insult. Glasses or four eyes would have seemed more likely and I imagine it's the same for the international players at United.
Who do you think are group of players who couldn’t understand why Elanga is playing?
Good but disappointing article.
M rashford, Marcus r, and their mate rashy.
Rashford. Can’t remember who it was against but he was completely dead pan after scoring and Mctominay bumped into him to try and get him to react.
We had that in Mourinho and he was sent packing.
Couldn’t have said it any better, annoys me the shade thrown at RR, he was on a hiding to nothing from the very beginning. He was needed and this set of overpaid cowards knew they had been found out by someone with the CV (recruitment and building) so that people would take notice. He saw what happened to the other managers and was t pandering to anyone and ruin his name.
the guy whose place he took
Reading this overview of a team makes me shivering. And there aren't any good options where to choose from for the future note. Just bin them all and start from a clean sheet. It's just a lose-lose game where nobody deserves to be chosen (sort of Bruno-Ronaldo but still, if needed to choose whom to bin then it's still bad option), just try to sell them all. No, really - it's all so screwed up and everybody is mad and downing tools because they cannot have what they think they deserve.
Binning Pogba, Martial, Lingard, Rashford and Greenwood will help the morale and mentality a lot, but doesn't make other issues disappear. Then selling Maguire and Bailly would help Shaw, but I don't see him as a captain. Okay, sell Ronaldo and Bruno will shine, but this is just weak mentality from Bruno, acting like a bullied boy because they cannot benefit from each other (of course they can, just Bruno needs to swallow up his ego and play team-first not trying to be the superstar of the team as nobody outshines Ronaldo), which is childish and shows weak mentality.
Rashford needs to boot. Toxic arrogant @**
He was a washed-up old has bean, not exactly what I was thinking of.
This is the real Zlatan and a lot of people don't understand he's a big joker. They only see what they perceive as arrogance
I still struggle with the idea of Rashford being a massive twat, but most likely just easily led by other knobheads? He seems like quite a meek, dull and placid guy. Using his charity work as a reason as to him being a good bloke is daft when its his people behind 99% of that. But it does seem quite likely he's one of the culprits. I just hope he sorts himself out in every department.
No space for this type of ill discipline, disrespect and player power.
I don't care who it is, whether it be Ronaldo,Bruno,Rashford, Maguire,Shaw Martial, De gea,Pogba or anyone else if they are disruptive get rid of them.
Likewise who ever is leaking all these revelations to the MEN and other media sources, get rid of them too.
It's become embarrassing now. I'm with Ten Haag, if they don't have the right attitude get them out of this club
I don't care who it is, whether it be Ronaldo,Bruno,Rashford, Maguire,Shaw Martial, De gea,Pogba or anyone else if they are disruptive get rid of them.
Likewise who ever is leaking all these revelations to the MEN and other media sources, get rid of them too.
It's become embarrassing now. I'm with Ten Haag, if they don't have the right attitude get them out of this club