Kills me to say it but liverpool could be a good move for him. Guaranteed game time and expectations that though higher than PSV will still be slightly lower than a mega club like us can help a young player like him develop. Then when he is the finished article he can just get himself a move to a bigger club a là suarez.
Memphis Depay | PSV confirm deal with Man Utd is agreed!
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He is not at Liverpool yet^^
Just wait and see, nothing special for me that he look at all options. If we try to get him, I am still confident. If we don't, then I trust LvG, who knows him better than anyone else here.
Just wait and see, nothing special for me that he look at all options. If we try to get him, I am still confident. If we don't, then I trust LvG, who knows him better than anyone else here.
^^I know.
Just saying liverpool could be a good move for him. That's all.
Just saying liverpool could be a good move for him. That's all.
Another factor is PSV. The chances of a big follow up transfer when Depay is in his prime is much larger at Spurs or Liverpool which would land them big money twice. The mess with the Robben transfer in the past have left PSV quite weary about dealing with United.
Not true. PSV will accept all offers for the rumoured price of 25-30m Euro. Memphis can decide where he wants to go, PSV won't deny him a move.
Money comes first, this is football after all. An outright veto wont happen, but if you think they wont try to influence his decision in their favor you are naive.
No player, especially one with an agent, would be swayed towards a club he didnt want to move to by the club he was leaving. That's just a fact.
No, I'm informed. PSV were to sell Memphis last season for 20m Euro to Tottenham (Dutch clubs can't say no to this), but Memphis decided to stay and signed a new contract. They've got a gentlemans agreement to sell him this season to anyone who offers the price PSV wants. They will accept all these offers and Memphis is free to choose his next club.
This has been reported by Thijs Slegers - PSV journalist. He's 100% reliable and got his sources, he works for Voetbal International - a Dutch football magazine/website who even got their own tv show. If you can come with facts I'd maybe believe you.
Former chairman Van Raaij was quoted in the Telegraaf, whose football section is the most informed of the papers, that the Depay sale was key for PSV to strengthen the squad in the coming season and that the club should extract the maximum value of that transfer. Slegers while often accurate is dependent on PSV goodwill for news, as are all the VI clubwatchers, so I doubt he will tell anything going against the club line.
The Spurs rumor last year is not that reliable imo, as a title with direct CL access is worth more than that amount for a Dutch team. Only if the player is hellbent on leaving, a team is in financial difficulty or is on his last contract year, a club is likely to concede.
Van Raaij has no official function at PSV, he left in 2004. He works for Philips. De Telegraaf is one of the worst papers, 2 days ago they linked us to Memphis/Hummels/Gundogan with no quotes. VI is much more reliable since they're an actual football magazine with sources, de Telegraaf is not.
Thijs Sleger has written many articles which weren't liked by PSV, he's not being paid by them or tries to stay in their good book at all costs. He's fallen out with them on a couple of occasions. He has good sources and Rik Elfrink (Eindhovens Dagblad) does too, he's said the same as Thijs. The Tottenham offer isn't just reliable, it happened. Why would PSV make that up? I'm sure Tottenham would've denied it otherwise.
Dutch clubs can't milk every transfer, they survive by selling their best players. We buy youth, give them time on the pitch and sell them with profit. If clubs would play hardball our competition would decline even faster than it already is. The only thing we've got going for us is that alot of our talents make it across the border on a higher level. 30m Euro is alot for a Dutch club. PSV bought players for 8m and 10m Euro - they're already being labelled as a buying club in Holland.
They sold Strootman, Dutch international and box-to-box player (hard to find and expensive) for 18m Euro 2 years ago. Wijnaldum is also leaving after this season and they're planning on buying Guardado (3m-done), Poulsen(free) and a new midfielder (they're interested in Gudelj and Pereira) - they can easily finance this with the sale of Memphis and Wijnaldum.
http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/psg-en-united-melden-zich-bij-psv-voor-depay.htm
Toon Gerbrands and Marcel Brands (the people who actually do the transfers at PSV) said on public television: It's not important where Memphis wants to go. If he comes up with a club we'll complete a deal with them without a problem.
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@NL Max Does he improve that much since last WC? I thought he had an ordinary tournament, several levels below Robben and Sneijder.
Hazard and Ronaldo both had worse tournaments than he did, hardly fair to use his WC performances as a measuring stick I'd say. And to compare a teenager playing a bit-par role in his first major international tounament against two of the most merited and successful dutch players still in the game isn't really fair either.
Robben was brilliant, Sneijder did a lot of hard work too. Of course a player who only played first team football for half a season regularly in the Eredivisie (he never played a full season before the worldcup) isn't going to dethrone them. He was important though, he made an assist and scored 2 vital goals.
He's improved loads and is still doing so. He was a Robben-type before (always cut inside and shoot), since 1,5 years he's improving his overall contribution. He's becoming a real team player, league topscorer and a complete winger without a real weakness. If he keeps progressing at the same rate he did in the last 2 years, in 4 years time he will be 'worldclass' - that's unbiased, he's really completely changed his style of play for the better that much.
I know. But that's the only time he's been exposed to me. Others are just clips, even that, don't really get me excited, tbh.
Thank you. Is he as trickery as Hazard? I think United still lack this type of player. Can't deny his goalscoring record, though.
Surely we get this guy in even if Bale is doable, if we sell Nani, and loan Janujaz, then we have Young, and Di Maria.
Mata isn't really a winger, and I doubt Valencia would do much if put back into that role, I'd even argue Di Maria isn't best played as a winger as i'd love to see him in midfield next to Herrera.
We have room for them both, the question is do we have the money?
Mata isn't really a winger, and I doubt Valencia would do much if put back into that role, I'd even argue Di Maria isn't best played as a winger as i'd love to see him in midfield next to Herrera.
We have room for them both, the question is do we have the money?
I think if Bale was available, Woody would make it happen.
I could see us signing both at the expense of a new striker.
I think we will match last season's net spend and then things will normalise again.
I think you're right, we still need so many players so we will have to spend again for sure, RB, CB, Midfield, & winger, or 2 x winger.
If we are playing 4-3-3 then I just don't see us needing a top striker, if we got say Lewandowski in then what happens to Rooney? out of position, or on the bench? Then there's RvP.
No Depay, and Bale would make far more sense especially as Depay could maybe play as a striker if needed.
We can probably sign Hummels, Gundogan and Depay for the price of Bale. Crazy!
Of course, but clubs like PSV have to sell themselves to young talented players to: Come play for us, and after a few years you can go to Europe's biggest clubs, win prizes and end up making more money than if you move to a better paying club now. They make decent money at PSV or Ajax, but it's between 1 and 2 million and taxes are high, so it's an investment in their long term career. So PSV can't block a deal if the price is reasonable and fair. Depay stayed last year to move to a really big club this year. PSV is happy if players don't go to Zenith or Spurs, but make them win the title first and go to clubs like Man Utd or PSV for money that suits the size of those clubs. Of course the new TV-deal will be taken in account in the judgement of what is a reasonable and fair price, but it's a different kind of negotiation than with a club who can say 'we don't want to sell him at all'.
This was him up against Spain in a friendly, he wasn't bad versus Carvajal, Pique, Pedro and Fabregas. Should give a bit of an idea.
He's not as trickery as Hazard in close space no, but he can work himself past a few defenders easily. If there's a wall of defenders in front of him he usually tries a different solution - he's better with a bit of space to work in.
On the topic of Memphis:
It's been quiet since he went to Liverpool, Thijs Slegers has just become father and will probably not be giving information in the next couple of days. I've always said: if we want him, we'll get him. I'm starting to think van Gaal might not have a place for him though, as it stands we've currently got:
Left footers: Di Maria, Mata, Januzaj
Right footers: Young, Lingard, Pereira, Nani
He prefers inverted wingers, but he doesn't use them at all costs - he played Robben on the left at times. Di Maria and Januzaj can easily play on the left, Pereira is looking like staying and said his best place is on the wing/CAM - since the coaches said he can also score. CAM we're stocked on so he will probably need a place on the wing. The only one I'm pretty sure of that will be gone is Nani.
The scenario in which Memphis would have a place:
Left wing: Young, Memphis, Pereira (Memphis & Pereira would take over in time)
Right wing: Di Maria, Januzaj, Mata
CAM: Fellaini, Rooney, Mata
Striker: Rooney, RvP, Wilson
The problem with this is 1 of RvP/Mata/Di Maria will be benched. Mata wouldn't play in our current midfield either since the defensive balance would be off - so it's dependable on the midfield too. This would work though when we've also got cup matches and CL next season.
The problem is that he's right footed and pretty much only suited for the left wing, so it will depend on the leaving players (Pereira, RvP, Nani & Lingard?). I think he will want Mata back in midfield, but I'm not sure if this is going to happen either since it would need balance - a new midfielder (not Gundogan). He might want Rooney at 10 with RvP/new striker up top.
At the moment it's dependable on too much factors to predict, luckily I still believe if he doesn't buy Memphis we won't buy Bale either. I'm hoping for the best and that it'll be announced in the next few weeks, the 2nd best would be that he goes to PSG.
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Have we done the Frank Arnesen saying he's 99% sure Depay will be in the Premiere league next season?
sorry 99.9%
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I know.
Looks like Bale is our primary target and he is back up. Won't be able to play this game for long though, far too proud a boy to be treated like that and PSV and his agent have been adament that they want a quick transfer.
That isn't how I read it.
Nah, from what Ladyman and Ogden said it, Bale is just if he comes available, so not really a priority target and they'll go for other targets first... they see Bale as a bonus.
God if he goes to Liverpool and turns out to be a real gem. It's so predictable. 
I hope it's not Hazard, Lucas and the rest of them all over again!
I hope it's not Hazard, Lucas and the rest of them all over again!
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He'll go to PSG. What can Liverpool offer (besides PL football) PSG can't?
I assume they will make him a key player, something PSG or United can't offer. Unless PSV are trying to start a bidding war it's not looking like Depay is joining us.
It really annoys me that we'd be willing to spend £100m on Bale when for a fifth of the price we could have this guy. He's not as talented but he someday could be. Whatever happens to developing players? There's also much more pressing concerns in our squad than a winger right now.
We're paying way over the odds for him. We are becoming so reckless with our spending, and a joke in the transfer market and it'll eventually bite us in the ass. There's only so much we can spend before FFP becomes more of a problem. Not to mention us just handing £160m to Madrid on overrated players.
We're paying way over the odds for him. We are becoming so reckless with our spending, and a joke in the transfer market and it'll eventually bite us in the ass. There's only so much we can spend before FFP becomes more of a problem. Not to mention us just handing £160m to Madrid on overrated players.
God if he goes to Liverpool and turns out to be a real gem. It's so predictable.
Then he'll leave after about two seasons..
PSG don't have alot of competition on the wings. Cavani usually plays there as does Lucas Moura, I think they'll sell Lavezzi too. Liverpool have Sterling, Llalana, Ibe, Markovic.
PSV aren't trying to start a bidding war, they'll do business with the club Memphis wants to go to. Marcel Brands confirmed this.
Nothing is decided yet. Van Gaal can easily complete the transfer in a matter of days if he wants to, the fact that we've shown interest gives me hope. There has been no new news yet, what Brands said today was already reported by Rik Elfrink.
I don't know why we're taking so long to move in on this. Overconfidence? I don't think the reason is Bale, there's absolutely nothing in that and it's just paper nonsense.
Calm the feck down. No one is spending £100m on Bale
Maybe we don't want him.
He's only become champion 2 weeks ago, he surely wasn't thinking about a transfer before that. He's checking all his other options too, which is fine - this will at least give him the upper hand when he's discussing wages. Van Gaal has informed at PSV - he now knows his price, I'm sure of this. He doesn't need to know more - I'm sure we've scouted him and he's worked with him before.
The Blind deal was done very quickly too. We paid what Ajax wanted and in a few days it was done. We can do the same with Memphis - he's currently got 3 days off so who knows?
It could be that van Gaal isn't interested - I'll keep you guys posted on the latest news, but we've informed so I'm optimistic. I personally think he would be a great addition but van Gaal has to factor in alot more and I'll trust his judgement in the end. As long as he doesn't end up at Liverpool it's fine with me, if he comes to United I'd be delighted though.
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