Memphis Depay | PSV confirm deal with Man Utd is agreed!

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We aren't getting Reus but I do think Bale might happen, however Depay has shown a lot of potential and we only have Ashley Young who plays from the left side as Di Maria is least effective over there.
 
Redo91 said:
Similar to the role Hazard has at Chelsea then? He really seems to have stepped up this season. Can't imagine we will be able buy him for much less than £25 million he keeps this up. LVG might swing the balance in our favour if other clubs are interested.
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He stayed at PSV because of LvG's advice during the World Cup. He wanted to win the Eredivisie with his club this season and if LvG advised him to stay on for another year, who knows what else has been said between them. LvG rates him and the kid knows it, especially since he got so much time on the pitch during the World Cup, which resulted in him scoring a few and standing out.

I would not be surprised if we make a deal with PSV and allow him to finish the season there. PSV is 1st and 4 points ahead of Ajax. They beat Feyenoord last week and thus, eliminated them as opposition for the title. With how PSV is playing and with Ajax in shifty form, it would not surprise me if PSV takes over the title, as much as it hurts to say it as an Ajax fan.
 
Mark_GrumpyLion said:
He stayed at PSV because of LvG's advice during the World Cup. He wanted to win the Eredivisie with his club this season and if LvG advised him to stay on for another year, who knows what else has been said between them. LvG rates him and the kid knows it, especially since he got so much time on the pitch during the World Cup, which resulted in him scoring a few and standing out.

I would not be surprised if we make a deal with PSV and allow him to finish the season there. PSV is 1st and 4 points ahead of Ajax. They beat Feyenoord last week and thus, eliminated them as opposition for the title. With how PSV is playing and with Ajax in shifty form, it would not surprise me if PSV takes over the title, as much as it hurts to say it as an Ajax fan.
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That's interesting. If he has a good bond with LVG that is bound to work in our favour. If he keeps this sort of form up we could be competing with plenty of other top clubs for him.
 
You can see that he has some great attributes but is also rough around the edges in that video. While he obviously isn't on the level of Reus or Bale yet and doesn't look as promising as Sterling or Lucas Moura, I think he's a preferable option to Cuadrado or Shaqiri.
 
Devil may care said:
You can see that he has some great attributes but is also rough around the edges in that video. While he obviously isn't on the level of Reus or Bale yet and doesn't look as promising as Sterling or Lucas Moura, I think he's a preferable option to Cuadrado or Shaqiri.
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Lucas Moura is still VERY rough. I think Depay has scored more goals this season alone than Moura has in all his seasons combined!
 
Adam-Utd said:
Lucas Moura is still VERY rough. I think Depay has scored more goals this season alone than Moura has in all his seasons combined!
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Even though I agree Depay's finishing is better than Lucas', it's a mistake to use goal-stats acquired in the Dutch league.
Defending is a joke in Holland, pretty sure Lucas Moura would also double his career goalscoring record during a year in that league.
 
pocco said:
He doesn't look as good an all round player to me. I tend to ignore all stats when it comes to Eredivisie. Championship level football.
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He's better than Bale though aged 20, yet look how Bale turned out (most expensive footballer in history aged 23/24).
 
Superpolfcb said:
Even though I agree Depay's finishing is better than Lucas', it's a mistake to use goal-stats acquired in the Dutch league.
Defending is a joke in Holland, pretty sure Lucas Moura would also double his career goalscoring record during a year in that league.
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Why, look at past topscorers in Eredivisie? Bony, Suarez, Pelle, Huntelaar, all doing very good in top top league's..
 
NoWinNoFee said:
He's better than Bale though aged 20, yet look how Bale turned out (most expensive footballer in history aged 23/24).
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Bale's progression was rapid after a disappointing start to his Tottenham career. Player's follow different development curves.
 
Sammyjunn said:
Why, look at past topscorers in Eredivisie? Bony, Suarez, Pelle, Huntelaar, all doing very good in top top league's..
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Those are a success indeed.
Same can't be said of other recent topscorers there like Vleminckx, El Hamdaoui, Dost, Alves. Last season's topscorer Finbogasson also having a difficult time in Spain so far.

Of course extremely talented players like Suarez will also excel in other leagues. Same probably will be the case for Depay, but just like Suarez he'll need some time to fully adapt after a move. In Holland, attacking players don't really learn how to deal with close marking and teams set up just to defend. Even bottom teams try to play attacking football, which leaves a lot of space for attacking players to work with and improve their stats. PSV in particular does a lot of damage on counter attacks. Once he gets to England and faces 10 Burnley players in and around their own box, he'll need to adapt.
 
Superpolfcb said:
Those are a success indeed.
Same can't be said of other recent topscorers there like Vleminckx, El Hamdaoui, Dost, Alves. Last season's topscorer Finbogasson also having a difficult time in Spain so far.

Of course extremely talented players like Suarez will also excel in other leagues. Same probably will be the case for Depay, but just like Suarez he'll need some time to fully adapt after a move. In Holland, attacking players don't really learn how to deal with close marking and teams set up just to defend. Even bottom teams try to play attacking football, which leaves a lot of space for attacking players to work with and improve their stats. PSV in particular does a lot of damage on counter attacks. Once he gets to England and faces 10 Burnley players in and around their own box, he'll need to adapt.
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Fair point, but how do you explain Depay also being quite productive at the WC, in Europe where he has 3 goals in 4 this season, 2 goals and 2 assists in Europe last season? It's far to easy to write off topscorers simply because 2 or 3 have failed elsewhere. the assist king and 2 topscorers of the Eredivisie (Bony, Pelle, Tadic) are the most recent exaples and are doing great in the PL.
 
Sammyjunn said:
Fair point, but how do you explain Depay also being quite productive at the WC, in Europe where he has 3 goals in 4 this season, 2 goals and 2 assists in Europe last season? It's far to easy to write off topscorers simply because 2 or 3 have failed elsewhere. the assist king and 2 topscorers of the Eredivisie (Bony, Pelle, Tadic) are the most recent exaples and are doing great in the PL.
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I'm not writing him off, I think he's a fantastic talent. I'm just being cautious with players from the Dutch league.
It's a great league and their youth development is brilliant, but it's not a secret that their league's focus is on attacking football.
Depay's record in Europe indeed shows that he can score goals against other types of teams too, but he gets a lot of opportunities to do so too.

He's the star of PSV's team, he can try his individual dribble 10 times, fail 8 times and still score 2 great goals and be the hero. You don't always get that chance with the European top teams, as we experienced with Zaha for example.

To be clear, I have very high hopes for Depay and think that with the right mentality he could become a great player. I'm just saying that we shouldn't draw to many conclusions based on his stats.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Lucas Moura is still VERY rough. I think Depay has scored more goals this season alone than Moura has in all his seasons combined!
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I've seen quite a bit of PSG this season and I think Lucas has turned the corner, his decision making on when to dribble and when to pass has improved, he's stronger when protecting the ball and he's making better runs off the ball.
 
I personally think he will be a brilliant signing. He has great pace and shooting power, but also has a trick or 2 in him and seems to have good vision also.
Devil may care said:
I've seen quite a bit of PSG this season and I think Lucas has turned the corner, his decision making on when to dribble and when to pass has improved, he's stronger when protecting the ball and he's making better runs off the ball.
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Fair enough, but then Moura is what 23/24 now? he is at the stage he should be better. I think Depay in 3/4 more years would arguably be much more effective. Either way it's going to be easier to get Depay than Moura.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Fair enough, but then Moura is what 23/24 now? he is at the stage he should be better. I think Depay in 3/4 more years would arguably be much more effective. Either way it's going to be easier to get Depay than Moura.
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Lucas turned 22 in August, Depay is 21 in February, but as I said in my initial post, I think Depay could be a good option for us and maybe the best one available as he's not already at a big club, I just think there's still quite a bit of work do do on him.
 
Superpolfcb said:
Those are a success indeed.
Same can't be said of other recent topscorers there like Vleminckx, El Hamdaoui, Dost, Alves. Last season's topscorer Finbogasson also having a difficult time in Spain so far.

Of course extremely talented players like Suarez will also excel in other leagues. Same probably will be the case for Depay, but just like Suarez he'll need some time to fully adapt after a move. In Holland, attacking players don't really learn how to deal with close marking and teams set up just to defend. Even bottom teams try to play attacking football, which leaves a lot of space for attacking players to work with and improve their stats. PSV in particular does a lot of damage on counter attacks. Once he gets to England and faces 10 Burnley players in and around their own box, he'll need to adapt.
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Its too soon to writing him off yet. He has been injured a lot this season. Not helping that he plays for average team and manager. I always thought that Sigthorsson would be more goalscorer than Finnbogason but he has also been unlucky with injures and Ajax playing style doesn't suit him.
 
One to watch and make decision after a while but I think Van Gaal would already know how to properly use him in his systems. With sad heart I must say it would be a great upgrade to Zaha but there may be even bigger fish to fry on the market... Still great prospect with future ahead.
 
Have to say i have a bit of a hard on for this guy. Clearly very talented, and he along with RvP, Robben and LvG is the main reason i watched and rooted for Holland at the world cup. Him, Clyne, Strootman and a centre half in the summer please.
 
Bwuk said:
Sterling is over rated by the British media. Depay actually did well at the World Cup, Sterling was anonymous.
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The feck? Was England's best player against Italy. Revisionism.
 
Rykker_4united said:
You're right, by some months. Well that makes all the difference!
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I don't know, if that makes all the difference but he is 10 months older and play in a much weaker league. Now, he has the invaluable advantages of not playing for Liverpool.
 
What if he was to play the LVG's Robben role? That would add much needed pace up front and keep Di Maria in midfield.


--------Blind
Herrera-----Di Maria
---------Rooney
-----RVP----Depay


Fellaini, Carrick, Mata & Falcao for rotation is quality depth.
 
He's a no brainer if we want to move towards playing with wingers.
 
DWelbz19 said:
No chance.
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Based on this season so far there is nothing to suggest that Sterling is better, so no idea how you can just discount the notion that Depay is better. He is on another level so far this season during which Sterling has been average at best. His nationality is all that is helping people ignore his poor form and continue to hype him up.
 
Sterling has been the only Liverpool player this season so far who can hold his head high and say he has been consistently good to excellent. Not sure peoples dislike of Liverpool isn't blinding them to the facts here. He is far and away their best player.

As for Depay until he shows what he can do consistently on a bigger stage people are right to consider Sterling the better player currently.
 
Bwuk said:
Sterling is over rated by the British media. Depay actually did well at the World Cup, Sterling was anonymous.
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Sterling is performing very well in a top league. Depay cant be seen as same level until he does so.
 
Impressive video at the top of the page. Maybe if we can't get Reus, Robben or Bale and can get a great CM, the plan will be to play Di Maria out wide more and bring back Nani, and have this sort of rotation for the front 6:

--------RVP/Falcao/Wilson---
DiMaria/Januzaj--------Depay/Nani
------------Rooney/Mata-----
----Strootman/Herrera--------
----------Blind/Carrick--------

Normal Van Gaal 4-3-3 and the only signings it would require are Strootman and Depay, and it doesn't look half bad.

Personally, I'd make Rooney a 9, not spend on Falcao and just overpay for one of that trio above, since I think that's our best path to becoming truly great rather than just a good but inconsistent side, but the above seems like a reasonable possibility that's not too depressing.
 
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