He could have experienced a growth spurt maybe? he is 21 after all so it's not that improbable. He needs to do whatever Shaw did during summer. Once he sorts his physique out, he'll be good again IMO. I knew he was a bit too big but 85kgs is heavy.
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He could have experienced a growth spurt maybe? he is 21 after all so it's not that improbable. He needs to do whatever Shaw did during summer. Once he sorts his physique out, he'll be good again IMO. I knew he was a bit too big but 85kgs is heavy.
Who ate all depay? Fat Memphis.
5 kg in 4 months? fecking hell, even if that's not all muscle it's still a lot. He needs to stop going to build muscle, he has too much if anything. Was thinking he definitely looked thinner, quicker and more agile in pre season then he has recently, and that backs it up. Could do with losing all that he gained and a bit more really. Maybe he thought about the needing to bulk up for the premier league thing too much and just over did it.
LOL. Yes I was about to say that, too.
When you first start out bodybuilding, you add muscle fast, then it slows down dramatically.
If you want to add 5KG of lean muscle tissue in 4 months, you will need to take heavy doses of anabolic steroids. Even then, gaining that much muscle would not be straight forward.
My guess is that after arriving in the EPL and being benched, he now realises that he isn't as good as he previously thought. It hasn't helped that he is playing genuinely badly. This guy has gone to be being the player of the year to being benched.
This has mentally depressed him a little and perhaps he is turning to food. Amongst non athletes, this is quite normal.
Can't disagree with this post to be honest.
Zlatan looks like a brick wall to me how does he compare?
Zlatan is 1.95m and weights 95kg.
Well Zlatan is very tall, which kinda makes up for his mass, he is also a taekwondo specialist so he is extremely agile. It is difficult to compare Zlatan to Memphis because of their difference in leg length. A better comparison to Memphis would be Rooney, or perhaps Drogba as you say (even if he is pretty tall at 187cm, but weights 91kg).
They are both much taller than Memphis. Just look at their bodies, they look strong but still quite lean. Memphis looks noticeably bulging, it's totally different
Rooney in his prime was "bulging" and I dont look at Memphis and see anything but a muscle unit. Bulk up slim down is in vogue right now but a skinny Di Maria did ok for Real and a bulging Rooney had a good career as well. Memphis losing 5kg or whatevs wont be the panacea to a form recovery.
The Media circus surrounding the club is leading afew on I think. Next it will be Martials Missus has said the forward "would only like to play striker" from now on.
I don't mean he looks fat, I mean his muscles are bulging because they're really big, much bigger than Zlatan's or Drogba's or indeed Rooney's
Maybe this 5 kg weight increase helps explain his erratic form, and recent exclusion from the team.
5 kg is quite alot for anyone yet alone an elite athlete, and seems a bit of an odd one to me.
Didn't Luke Shaw have similar issues with his weight last season and his form was all over the place, yet once he got it sorted over the summer he was fantastic, a similar scenario hopefully awaits Depay.
5 kg is quite alot for anyone yet alone an elite athlete, and seems a bit of an odd one to me.
Didn't Luke Shaw have similar issues with his weight last season and his form was all over the place, yet once he got it sorted over the summer he was fantastic, a similar scenario hopefully awaits Depay.
Shaw started off the season simply unfit apparentley. Memphis is different in that he is already built like a tank, and still young.
His extra weight is doing him no favours at all when it comes to football. It looks good for the cameras and the ladies but he has serious trouble beating a man in the PL with pace/skill.
There builds are not too dissimilar, I find it hard to believe Shaw was unfit after the season he had just had at Southampton where he played most games and was up and down the wing all the time, he maybe just bulked up too much and lost his edge, which is maybe what is bothering Depay, he just needs to get the balance right between been muscle bound as he seems to want to be, and agile and fit enough to find his form again.
No one thinks not playing every week and playing every week could account for 5kg over 5 months say........Average player loses half a stone over 90mins I recall reading in summer months I know its cold but still.
People arguing over 5 kg, you would think this is some kind of women's forum 
I understand him, i am some kind of freak when it comes to weight, i am 188cm tall and usually around 82kg, but i can easily put 8 kilos in 4-5 months and i am looking a lot less "fat" when i start excercising but when i have 2-3 months off (don't have time or i just want some time off to get back motivation) i can lose up to 10+ kg in that time without much of visual effect
I understand him, i am some kind of freak when it comes to weight, i am 188cm tall and usually around 82kg, but i can easily put 8 kilos in 4-5 months and i am looking a lot less "fat" when i start excercising but when i have 2-3 months off (don't have time or i just want some time off to get back motivation) i can lose up to 10+ kg in that time without much of visual effect
it wasn't bulking up with Shaw, even though he had come back from the World Cup. LVG himself said he returned way off the pace, so he must have been really enjoying himself for a few weeks pigging out. Shaw and Memphis are similar stocky builds, with Shaw being a bit soft and on the tubby side. He still gets shit now for being fat. Memphis is built like a ox though, muscle is heavier than fat so while Memphis has the body to die for its having an effect on what he can do
Way off the pace but thanks to him we are still in the CL? His form has dropped and everyone is looking for reasons.
Has been directly involved in as many goals as Rooney this season with less starts, playing wide left, in a debut campaign and still just 21.
Context and patience.
Context and patience.
85kg for such a midget is simply 20 pounds too much.
surprised to see Ronaldo is just 80kg, he looks heavier.
surprised to see Ronaldo is just 80kg, he looks heavier.
Aye, context. Shouldn't Rooney's form be mentioned if you want context?
Rooney is hardly the yardstick to compare players with this season
If Depay was playing at a high level Rooney would be on the bench. Forget what LVG said, Depay hasn't made him have to make a decision in any way shape or form. LVG doesn't go by reputations this is a manager who benched Rivaldo when he was World Player Of The Year. Martial has taken Depay's position because Depay can't do what is required of him. if he was doing that and it was a choice between Martial and Rooney I think we all know who LVG would play. But then I guess Rooney would just play in the 10. position.
Does this weight gain coincide with Shaw being injured? 
Thats a lie, the benching was years later in his second stint as manager.
My observations based on his games for us:
Pereira and Januzaj both have much superior technique, especially close touch. Lingard is ahead of him in that department too, although not so much. Depay is the most one footed of the 4 (Januzaj 2nd). Neither of them is particularly great dribbler, although Depay seems to struggle the most at beating his man (maybe because his pace is ordinary and he always seems to go inside).
My biggest worry is something I noticed very early- his link up play is poor. He very rarely cooperates with the fullback (that was my observation when Shaw was playing), and when pressed he rarely looks for a way to get out of trouble and move forward, he rather passes the ball to the back and stay in the same place.
Depay is used to running with the ball when defenders are backing too, but he rarely gets that opportunity because of our style of play. He is definitely the best option for counter attacking team, but unfortunately he struggles in our setup because his skillset isn't suited to possession game.
He also has some tricks in him, but it seems it doesn't work in England (tbh worked only against Brugge and PSV so far).
Why do you think Depay is the most well rounded? I think people say that because of his record in Holland. Fair enough, he has achieved the most of them all but I've seen very little of his class since he moved here.
How much does his hat weigh?
Add gold teeth aswell
Wish I could put on 5 kilos of muscle in 4 months.
Man the United canteen must be addictive. Depay, Shaw, Anderson... those dinner ladies need to get fired
Boom
Looks like we replaced Ando and not Ronaldo. Oh well.
I don't have much knowledge about all this weight, muscle, fat etc. I can only judge on what i am seeing on the pitch and I can"t see how putting on weight, even if its' muscle is going to help him. He already looks slow and heavy. I hope our medical department are't taking the default position that a foreigner must put on weight and bulk up.
How do we know player weights? Surely someone just made them up?
In memphis' case he came out and told us how much he weighs and how much he put on.
High intensity training every day of the week and you gain 5 kilos in less than 4 months? Starting at 80, no less. That's a lot of eating. Either his diet is off or he's forcing himself to get that amount of calories in. Nobody has that kind of appetite, surely?
I'm the same height and have a pretty similar build to him. Currently weigh 78 kilos and I feel a bit heavy when playing football, already.
I'm the same height and have a pretty similar build to him. Currently weigh 78 kilos and I feel a bit heavy when playing football, already.
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I think it will be mostly the club dictating his eating and training to get him to get stronger.
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