Dribbling is a skill that can be learned like all others. You aren't born with a 98 dribbling metric.
Concerning Memphis it's only a matter of time and effort before his skillset that worked in Holland is modified for the Premier League.
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Dribbling is a skill that can be learned like all others. You aren't born with a 98 dribbling metric.
Concerning Memphis it's only a matter of time and effort before his skillset that worked in Holland is modified for the Premier League.
To an extent, it is. But I think it's more about natural ability than just 'learning it' like others. Depay won't learn to be faster. I can't really think of many top players who can run past their marker that weren't always able to do it to an extent? It's just that their decision making and end product when they do it is much better than it was when they were young*
*apart from Nani.
That's fair. Even with the cap on his raw physical attributes, I think he has plenty of stuff to add to his arsenal. He needs to learn to create space and use it effectively. The ball will always move faster than the quickest back line.
He's low on confidence. The dribbles don't work and it's affecting him. Firstly he needs to change his attitude when it comes to working for the team. Tracking back to make interceptions and pressing in attack; you'd think such things were obvious but he isn't putting in the work. Then he just needs to start playing simple instead of doing it all on his own. Play the simple passes and make runs to carve up the opposition. Simple things that helps the team. When the simple things work the confidence will come back and the harder dribbles/passes/shots will have a higher success-rate.
Given the size of his transfer fee, I find it really strange he's been bombed out so much. At this current time you'd find it hard to see him getting any football, he's literally that much of a liability when he's on the field. Constantly giving the ball away and wasting of play, it's like Di Maria all over again.
Think you're being a bit harsh mate. He has shown flashes of his talent with us already. I'm not looking forward to the thread comments on Martial when he runs into the inevitable inconsistency patch. Just go read Januzaj's thread and Lingard's before the goal he scored. They are young players and they are what we have on our books now. We have no other choice but to give them time to grow into their roles. Agreed that he hasn't done enough to warrant an automatic starting spot but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be patient with him. How many games did Nani play in the league in his first season? Obviously not comparing the two players but I am comparing their respective situation when they first came to United. The only issue here is that we don't have a Ronaldo to help us through the younger, inexperienced player's adaptation and growing period.
So having said that, think the club and Memphis would benefit from a pacy (preferably right) wing acquisition next summer to take some pressure off. It would cut into their game time but if Memphis, Januzaj and Lingard are good enough, they'd make it here. Would definitely not loan them out!
Had quite a good interview with the NOS yesterday/today. The lad is working hard to regain his form and unfortunately for him people are saying he isnt working hard enough or is too busy with fashion and stuff. He said he's on the right track in training at club so he expects to find his form soon.
He's been really bad for us recently but everyone could see how much promise he showed in the start of the season + pre season. Hope he can get to his standards soon enough and kick on, he's still a massive talent. Shame that he's almost written off already.
He's been really bad for us recently but everyone could see how much promise he showed in the start of the season + pre season. Hope he can get to his standards soon enough and kick on, he's still a massive talent. Shame that he's almost written off already.
How does someone 'lose' form by the way? When you're not injured or sick and you don't have any family issues (relative passed away) etc, what could possibly cause someone to do even the basics wrong match after match?
Handled that very well albeit it turned into an interview about a hat half way down the line. Hopefully he can back his words up.
Sometimes it's physical - you're just not in a great shape. You are not as fast, your stamina is not as good and, most importantly, you feet aren't as quicker. Happens to me often when I haven't been playing for a while. I doubt that's his problem, as he trains everyday.
Other times it's purely mental. This has also happened to me when I used to play regularly when I was younger. I'd have fantastic games and also really bad ones, in which nothing comes off. Every mistake you make just makes it worse and harder to concentrate which leads to more mistakes. It's hard to explain and I don't think confidence is the perfect word, because you fully realize then and there that you can play way better than you are right now.
He'll get over it.
Yeah I think you're right. I notice with myself that I sometimes just lose control over a situation because I can't concentrate well and then the basic things go wrong and I'm just like why is this happening. But those are more one-offs, just some moments while some players play like shit for several weeks/months long, is that also because of mental issues?
I presume this is a Dutch aphorism. What does walking next to your shoes mean? Getting too big for your boots?
Correct. That you're pretending to be more than you are.
Walking besides your boots (naast je schoenen gaan lopen) = thinking/acting like you've made it already, being too full of yourself (rating yourself too high?).
Memphis got alot of criticism for his fashion and clothes he wore, even in Holland and I like it that he finally responds to it. Such bollocks articles purely based on how he dresses, usually suggesting he has a bad attitude even though that's not true.
The faster we'll see Shaw on the pitch the better for everyone. Their understanding on the left side may be another future present for next manager to come.
I'm sure Memphis will sort it out. He already got through some difficult times in the past, this is just another step to take.
I'm sure Memphis will sort it out. He already got through some difficult times in the past, this is just another step to take.
Maybe he should wear his hat on the pitch
That hat is the final nail in the coffin for me, I want him out of the club.
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It’s true, and I guess we agree that he’s more of a striker than a winger. However, he is too limited currently to become an important player for us in the coming seasons IMO, that’s why I don’t think loaning him is such a bad idea.
I believe Januzaj, Pereira and Lingard have the tools to become good players. They need time to put it all together. At the same time I don’t think Memphis has those tools (movement and shooting is not enough)- he has to improve a lot of aspects of his game to become a regular for us. You’re right, he has the time. But I’d rather give more chances to the other young players I mentioned than him. It’s a question which player is worth investing in.
Only thing he showed is confidence if you ask me. He had a couple of good games against Brugge and PSV, but I struggle to see any other good contribution he had in the League.
It’s okey, because he’s young. I don’t see the “obvious talent” in him though, and I’ve been skeptical before we signed him. He should get some playing time but to me it seems we have better young players who should be getting playing time ahead of him.
What kind of hat was he wearing?
I remember when watching him in Holland I always thought he reminded me of Zaha with the way the ball never seemed to be under close control. He seemed to get past players with octupus limbs in all directions and miraculously emerge with the ball. He started ok and I thought well it works but now I'm just not sure how good he is once again.
I like Memphis. His answers had the right amounts of disgust and indifference. Why are the Dutch obsessed with hats ffs?
Nothing wrong with the hat. Footballers wear appalling clobber sometimes. It seems mad that it got so much attention at the time. There's been much, much worse outfits sported by players.
Nothing wrong with the hat. Footballers wear appalling clobber sometimes. It seems mad that it got so much attention at the time. There's been much, much worse outfits sported by players.
All Dench.
Looks likes he's on I'm A Celebrity...
Dateline: Manchester. The elusive Pie Baron continues to thumb his nose at the authorities. Swaggering about in a garish new hat, he seemed to say, "Look at me, Danny Blind! I have a new hat!"
Of course, it carries on. You have a poor game, really want to prove yourself in the next one and end up forcing a lot more things, which leads to worse results. That just continues to carry on until you can sit back, relax and take a normal approach to the game again. That's easier said than done though because if you're a competitor, you have a certain ego and that often stands in a way of taking a step back to get back into your rhythm.
Likewise the right hand side. When you look at bayern and barcelona; two teams that incorporates forward/wingers, part of the beauty is that you can attack from any angle with equal confidence. Mata drifts inwards much more without the ball than with and it makes the opposition defence lean towards the left hand side automatically.
He's been shocking lately but I still feel he's been slightly over criticised, he's still managed 4 goals and 4 assists from around 11 starts, this playing for a new team who aren't exactly scoring 3+ goals every week.
He's only 21 I have faith he will come good.
He's only 21 I have faith he will come good.
Of course he's being over criticised, it's what United fans do on a consistent basis.
Patience is crucial with Depay.
Yup. And, indeed, with all young players.
The problem in football nowadays is fans/people want instant results when it comes to everything. There's so little patience in the game nowadays.
He's 21 years old, already a very good football player and can potentially go on to be a great player. Some players hit the ground running, some don't. The key with Depay right now is patience and his attitude. If he has the right attitude then he'll eventually turn it around and find his footing at the club. Some fans are jumping on him within a few months of being at the club because he hasn't lit the league on fire.
In my view he's rightfully been dropped and there's nothing wrong with that. I think he's been poor for the most part but I'm not going to jump on him and shit all over the guy because he hasn't fit straight in right off the bat. As I mentioned above, being dropped will test his mentality and show us if he has the right attitude to now bounce back and work his way back into the team.
I remember a time not that long ago when even your average football fan basically accepted that most foreign players would take an entire season to adapt to the PL and start to show what they were actually capable of. Nowadays they barely get an entire match before people start drawing big conclusions.
Amen
over criticized yes... but at first he was over hyped, hopefully we will find a balance
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