[Jerch]

I thought he was good, he made beautiful cross to Martial who should make better pass to Fellaini. It could be a winning goal.

Other than that he tried to do the same 2-3 times but he was doubled all the time and when he managed to get himself in good position a fecking referee decided that he want to play also.

We all saw with beloved Martial that it is not easy to play on the wing especially yesterday when CSKA was very good in defense and they constantly doubled our wingers.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Tosic and Fernandes were doing a very good job closing off the wing and not giving us any space, so you have to give them credit really, Memphis wasn't really on the pitch long enough to properly effect the game, but as the post above says he could easily have created a goal with the cross to the back post.

 

[Question234]

I know he was brought on with only 10 minutes to play but his body language was atrocious.

He didn't even look interested tonight and should be nowhere near the first eleven right now.

Both of you know feck all about body language.

They doubled up on our wingers and he only had 10 mins, he put in a cross that could of lead to a goal had martial got a better touch, if it did his job would of been done.

 

[Maradona10]

Every one is making excuses for him, the thing is he is shit right now, if he was playing this way for city/liverpool we would be laughing our ass off. I was sure he would come good, right now i am not even sure he will be an important player here. Lingard had a better game than him, which speaks volumes about him. I think the problem here might not be talent but attitude. Adel taraabt comes to mind, he looks moody devoid of any idea or skill to beat a man, even tosic looked better than him.

 

[2mufc0]

Lot slower than i expected, maybe carrying an injury? or maybe he wan't that fast in the first place?

 

[Bwuk]

Every one is making excuses for him, the thing is he is shit right now, if he was playing this way for city/liverpool we would be laughing our ass off. I was sure he would come good, right now i am not even sure he will be an important player here. Lingard had a better game than him, which speaks volumes about him. I think the problem here might not be talent but attitude. Adel taraabt comes to mind, he looks moody devoid of any idea or skill to beat a man, even tosic looked better than him.

Memphis played for 10 minutes...

F*ck me. He put in the cross that probably should of lead to a goal.

 

[VorZakone]

Every one is making excuses for him, the thing is he is shit right now, if he was playing this way for city/liverpool we would be laughing our ass off. I was sure he would come good, right now i am not even sure he will be an important player here. Lingard had a better game than him, which speaks volumes about him. I think the problem here might not be talent but attitude. Adel taraabt comes to mind, he looks moody devoid of any idea or skill to beat a man, even tosic looked better than him.

Basically this. He is shit at the moment but I still think he is too talented not to make it here, time will tell though!

 

[Maradona10]

Memphis played for 10 minutes...

F*ck me. He put in the cross that probably should of lead to a goal.

Why "Should" it have led to a goal? martial made it look like a chance, a player of shorter height wont have got there. Yes he played for 10 mins but he also has played 5 other games where he has looked equally shit. Calling shit a shit in these parts seem to be out of fashion.

Here is his 10 mins performance. 2 bad touches, one cross, looses the ball 3 times and thats it.

 

[Jerch]

Why "Should" it have led to a goal? martial made it look like a chance, a player of shorter height wont have got there. Yes he played for 10 mins but he also has played 5 other games where he has looked equally shit. Calling shit a shit in these parts seem to be out of fashion.

Here is his 10 mins performance. 2 bad touches, one cross, looses the ball 3 times and thats it.

He made 1 mistake (at 1:10 when he should pass to Blind) Again 1 mistake. FFS people.

 

[Maradona10]

He made 1 mistake (at 1:10 when he should pass to Blind) Again 1 mistake. FFS people.

Do you Completely ignore 3 bad touches and fecking always cutting back in when he should try and take one man on the outside? He did one good thing in that video. Are you blind? cause if you were you would probably give memphis a mouthful for ignoring him 2 times.

 

[Brophs]

This situation isn't exactly new. A player comes in from a weaker league, finds it difficult and loses confidence. It'll take time to adapt. Tearing it up in Holland means next to feck all.

 

[Jerch]

Do you Completely ignore 3 bad touches and fecking always cutting back in when he should try and take one man on the outside? He did one good thing in that video. Are you blind? cause if you were you would probably give memphis a mouthful for ignoring him 2 times.

There is 1 bad touch when he was pushed and i think one when a defender kicked a ball in out and the ball was again ours. When he cut back he would have a great chance if the fecking ref wouldn't decided that he want to defend also.

It is becoming laughable how some of you criticize Memphis for every little mistake.

 

[Cassidy]

There is 1 bad touch when he was pushed and i think one when a defender kicked a ball in out and the ball was again ours. When he cut back he would have a great chance if the fecking ref wouldn't decided that he want to defend also.

It is becoming laughable how some of you criticize Memphis for every little mistake.

I kind of agree but I will say this. It makes it awfully easy to defend against you when EVERYONE knows you are going to just cut back onto your right foot and come inside. Why does he not add some more varieaty to him game, its really baffling.

 

[2mufc0]

Agree with the sentiment he cuts back to often, he needs to take on the full back more , that's why i have questioned his pace maybe he's not that quick.

 

[Amar__]

He doesn't really deserve to start games any time soon. I would move Lingard ahead of him in pecking order and see what he has to offer. Lingard uses the ball much better, and I think he can be goal threat when played on the left.

 

[Cassidy]

Agree with the sentiment he cuts back to often, he needs to take on the full back more , that's why i have questioned his pace maybe he's not that quick.

You don't even need to be that quick, and the silly thing is the couple of times I have seen him do it, he has suceeded in beating his man.
Problem is that he seems hell bent on coming inside and getting a goal for himself

 

[2mufc0]

He doesn't really deserve to start games any time soon. I would move Lingard ahead of him in pecking order and see what he has to offer. Lingard uses the ball much better, and I think he can be goal threat when played on the left.

Agree with this esp with Young out. Ideally Mata would come back into the right, Lingard on the left and Martial upfront.

 

[Jerch]

I kind of agree but I will say this. It makes it awfully easy to defend against you when EVERYONE knows you are going to just cut back onto your right foot and come inside. Why does he not add some more varieaty to him game, its really baffling.

I agree with this but don't forget, he cut back 2 times and was succesfull 2 times. But yes defenders know what he will do and in next game maybe he will lose the ball everytime he will try to cut back.

I think he "can only cut back" because he didn't really play at PSV like a natural winger the way he is playing at United. He usually played like a wide forward in a free role like Mata have in our team and he was usually running at defenders with speed. He must improve on the wing but i think he is strugling because he is adapting to new role which is kind of alien to him and he must develop tools to be successful in that role.
Our setup it pretty clear, left winger is always on the wing and try to make pitch wide and right winger has a free role. Not only because Mata is playing on the right side but also yesterday Lingard had a really free role when Martial was very disciplined in staying wide and he also often strugled when he was doubled and lacked ideas what to do.

 

[2mufc0]

You don't even need to be that quick, and the silly thing is the couple of times I have seen him do it, he has suceeded in beating his man.
Problem is that he seems hell bent on coming inside and getting a goal for himself

Good point, i think he may struggle against the quicker full backs. Maybe he is instructed to cut in by the manager?

 

[Cassidy]

Good point, i think he may struggle against the quicker full backs. Maybe he is instructed to cut in by the manager?

Hes been doing it his whole career.

 

[Revan]

I think LvG made him a key player and gave him the #7 too early. A false sense of security and let his cockiness shine through a little.

He'll come good, just not as fast as we hoped he would.

We can hope so, and I am not a big fan of judging a player in his first season. Saying that, I think that he has been shocking (not average) for us bar in a couple of games. Looks completely dumb in the pitch by trying to dribble every time he has the ball and failing always at it, doesn't offer much threat and doesn't contribute defensively. I haven't watched much of him before he came here, so cannot comment how talented is him, but really Januzaj in Moyes season was twice the player Memphis has been for us so far.

 

[Adisa]

Lot slower than i expected, maybe carrying an injury? or maybe he wan't that fast in the first place?

He's not really a quick player but he's a powerful runner which could be deceptive.

 

[caid]

I kind of agree but I will say this. It makes it awfully easy to defend against you when EVERYONE knows you are going to just cut back onto your right foot and come inside. Why does he not add some more varieaty to him game, its really baffling.

I think this would be my biggest criticism of him.
He's kind of predictable atm.

Theres a good player in there though imo. 4 goals is a great start

 

[Cassidy]

I think this would be my biggest criticism of him.
He's kind of predictable atm.

Theres a good player in there though imo. 4 goals is a great start

Plus 4 assists... he was righly dropped after his lack of effort vs Arsenal though

 

[Adisa]

He needs to step it up because he's looking at long spells on the bench when Young gets back. Rooney isn't going to be dropped. That leaves him behind both Martial and Young in that position.

 

[caid]

Plus 4 assists... he was righly dropped after his lack of effort vs Arsenal though

He hasn't been playing well, its hard to argue that he deserves to start atm.
But start bringing him on later in the game maybe?

 

[Cassidy]

He hasn't been playing well, its hard to argue that he deserves to start atm.
But start bringing him on later in the game maybe?

The funny thing is, he is having exactly the same issues as ADM

 

[mu77]

There is 1 bad touch when he was pushed and i think one when a defender kicked a ball in out and the ball was again ours. When he cut back he would have a great chance if the fecking ref wouldn't decided that he want to defend also.

It is becoming laughable how some of you criticize Memphis for every little mistake.

he would have seen him if he had his head up. 10 mins or 90 mins the performances look the same. not saying he won't come good but for now the bench looks the place for him.

 

[Jerch]

he would have seen him if he had his head up. 10 mins or 90 mins the performances look the same. not saying he won't come good but for now the bench looks the place for him.

Do you want to say that Memphis should try to avoid the ref. I always thought that it is other way around, probably Memphis thought the ref will move from his path but he just didn't do it.

 

[Cassidy]

Its a bit odd to critisise him for the ref getting in his way. He is playing poorly, but that is just being silly

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

The funny thing is, he is having exactly the same issues as ADM

I don't agree, ADM showed moments of brilliance and it at this stage looked generally good. Memphis hasn't looked good at all apart from 2 games in truth.

 

[Cassidy]

I don't agree, ADM showed moments of brilliance and it at this stage looked generally good. Memphis hasn't looked good at all apart from 2 games in truth.

I'm talking about in they way they struggled, not in the amount of games they were good.

 

[Red_Beans]

Hope he will come good. He's a talented player but something just dosnt look right at the moment.

@NL Max, whats your take on whats going on?

 

[GloryHunter07]

This situation isn't exactly new. A player comes in from a weaker league, finds it difficult and loses confidence. It'll take time to adapt. Tearing it up in Holland means next to feck all.

Yep. I think Dirk Kuyt scored a Hatrick this weekend for Feyenord!

He is young, give him time.

 

[Adisa]

Some Dutch journo said he's the kind of character that could sulk if he wasn't starting games. That might exhaust the patience of LVG and his staff faster than any poor performances.

 

[Krits]

Obviously ten minutes isn't enough to really say much, but keeping in mind the rest of his recent performances and just the "look" of him on the pitch. I don't feel confident at all with him in the team right now. I'm not asking him to be sold, he just needs to improve a lot more before I can trust him as a united player. Should be starting the CC games to gain match experience but nothing more right now.

 

[pseudo_canadian]

He's never going to play well or have an impact in games where teams sit behind the ball and stay compact.

Though he still made some braindead decisions and passes on a couple of occasions, so there's really no excuse for that.

 

[Adisa]

He's never going to play well or have an impact in games where teams sit behind the ball and stay compact.

Though he still made some braindead decisions and passes on a couple of occasions, so there's really no excuse for that.

If that's the case, we might as well sell him in January. 90% of the teams we face fall into that category.

 

[hbgreg]

PSV is his level

 

[LeftyBlaster]

PSV is his level

We don't know that yet. It's quite silly to write him off this early.

I agree that the recent benching was needed to give him a wake up call. I do think, however, that with so much football still to be played, Louis needs to play him through long periods of frustration and not drop him for spells at a time every time he doesn't deliver. He's a very raw talent who needs consistency in game time in order to reach maturity. If we play him inconsistently we'rr most likely going to end up with another Nani on our hands because we stymied his development.

We need to show patience and belief that he will improve because he will once he matures like Ronny did. He clearly has a lot of growing up still to do, and it helps that we brought in a player like Bastian who's a leader with plenty of experience.