But he doesn't. van Gaal loaned his competition away.
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Wasn't PSV mainly a counter-attacking side? Not making excuses for him, but it could be him adapting to how we play, although he did play under LvG for Holland.
my issue is no matter what formation we play, he isn't good enough to feel he never has to track back, today young was getting ripped apart and he didnt support him at all!
you need to be a very speical talent to get away with that, and Memphis isn't at the moment!
Even one of the best winger in the world "Eden Hazard" Has not done much more than Memphis this season and many here says Memphis is shit... What the hell is Hazard then?? He is supposed to be World Class player..
Thats not a certainty at all. In fact, I'd say its the complete opposite at this stage.
Nani looked like a much more talented player at Memphis' age. He just couldn't put it all together properly. Memphis, quite frankly, doesn't look like he's got many tools in his locker at all.
As for 'needing more space to work with', well if he needs that to do well, then he's not that good is he?
Not good today and a somewhat underwhelming start to his United career but opposition teams clearly see him as a threat otherwise they wouldn't bother to double up on him so consistently as already noted in this thread.
He looks short of ideas on how to deal with this at the minute and maybe this is only exacerbated by the teams slow build up and generally having to receive the ball whilst static and facing set defences sitting deep. Some time as an impact sub might give him a little time to reflect on this new challenge and adjust accordingly.
He is young so needs time but isn't putting in performances worthy of a starting role right now and should be used accordingly.
He looks short of ideas on how to deal with this at the minute and maybe this is only exacerbated by the teams slow build up and generally having to receive the ball whilst static and facing set defences sitting deep. Some time as an impact sub might give him a little time to reflect on this new challenge and adjust accordingly.
He is young so needs time but isn't putting in performances worthy of a starting role right now and should be used accordingly.
We shall see whose proven right in the end but I think people are way too premature with Depay. He has plenty of tools, he's getting double marked and that isn't the issue its the fact we don't have enough threats in the team other than Martial and we move the ball around too slowly. It makes him look poorer than he is.
Everyone needs to get a grip. Taking out one of the few quick braver players we have with some decent technical quality is brainless. . Lets get rid of the old men who have no future here and have no improvement in their game.
I think he's due a spell on the bench but I'm not sure if LvG will move Young out of LB just yet.
He should get a recording of Sanchez performance and see how it's done, talent doesn't exclude the need to work, even Hazard had to learn that.
Tbf you're arguing with a guy who's gone from this..
To this...
In just over a month. He doesn't seem to do shades of grey.
Yeah, we can always give Pereira some minutes as well.
That would be a good idea, at least for home games, Pereira has been brought up with the work ethic at the club.
Al those quotes are from pre-season, where he looked really exciting.
Yeah, I'm sure LvG will sort it out with Memphis. Rooney is a bigger problem atm.
I still believe he needs time to adjust to a new league, but at the same time, I am dissapointed, I thought hed have a much bigger impact in our team, very underwhelmed by him tbh, but as I said he has time on his side, some players improve when theyre 24-25, they hit their prime, but at the moment he is pretty shit
This is where lack of depth is hurting. He doesn't look anywhere near ready for the role he's being expected to play.
If only we had some young wide players on the books who could challenge for the place...
If only we had some young wide players on the books who could challenge for the place...
He's been pathetic bar 1-2 games. Extremely sluggish on the ball and thinks he has all the time in the world before being robbed time and time again by average opposition players.
It's quite concerning when all the tabloids on him are about his night club antics, hanging around celebrity females and not performances on the pitch.
It's quite concerning when all the tabloids on him are about his night club antics, hanging around celebrity females and not performances on the pitch.
Drives me up the wall that.
Drives me up the wall that.
Were killing him tbh. Were mentally burning him out and today was clearly a game he should not have started.
Not impressed, don't think he is STAR quality. He can go on to become a good level player. But he has a lot of work to do. Not the smartest, not tenacious enough. Can't really beat players 1 on 1. I think he's too big, too much muscle. I think it may be affecting his agility.
How many times has he been hooked off at half time now? Awful start for him so far. Maybe this proves the dutch league is as awful as everyone says it is?
@Raess point still stands though, there are far more worrying players in the team.
He's a young lad who needs time to develop his game. I think we probably won't see what he can offer us until next season, or perhaps even longer.
The real problem is that we basically bet the house on him hitting the ground running, which he hasn't been able to do. And he's not the type to keep it simply to get his confidence up.
The real problem is that we basically bet the house on him hitting the ground running, which he hasn't been able to do. And he's not the type to keep it simply to get his confidence up.
@Raess point still stands though, there are far more worrying players in the team.
but im not sure their was a more troubling performance then Memphis's today, lots of players where struggling today, but the lack of willingness by Memphis to track back and support young when he was getting torn apart, is very worrying, you have to be a very special player to get away with that, and Memphis isn't yet.
@Raees talks about the emphasis should be on Rooney, not Memphis, and thier is no doubt Rooney is way off form and probably on form also deserves to be dropped, but he is still trying and working for the team, and frankly did a better job both attackingly and defensively on the left wing then Memphis did today.
Im not saying those writing Memphis of at this early stage arn't daft, but it was a very troubling performance, and he needs a massive kick up the arse for that display and probably a spell on the bench.
@Raess point still stands though, there are far more worrying players in the team.,/QUOTE]
As I said, those 3 posts were all from pre-season where he looked really exciting.
He's been very poor since the real stuff has started though, and he's been very easy to nullify. Its been a massive disappointment so far.
A stint of a few matches to the bench for Memphis while Pereira gets the nod wouldn't hurt one bit.
And then if Pereira comes in, doesn't make too much of an impact he'll be shite too.
It's terrible management to let so many go and bring in only 2 attackers. To be relying so heavily on a young lad, who has just come from a poorer league and will need time to adjust has done absolutely nothing to help him settle and just puts much more pressure on him. There's no way she should've been starting every game but apart from Young, who is now covering at full back there isn't another option. Memphis should be doing better but he's been done no favours.
He's not at all ready. Step up from Eridivise to PL proved too much for him. I guess we'll see best of him in 12-18 months time.
As for this thread it's been a typical Caf with people hyping him up ten folds before the season to complete polar opposite right now.
As for this thread it's been a typical Caf with people hyping him up ten folds before the season to complete polar opposite right now.
I think he just needs a time out. A break. Drop him against Everton and CSKA and bring him back on for the City game. He is again going to play in the international break. He looks knackered.
There is potential but he isn't getting any help with Shaw out for the season. Shaw draws so much attention and that would have helped him immensely settle in and find his feet these first couple of months. Now with no proper fullback every team doesn't have to worry about Young overlapping him and just double team Memphis.
There is potential but he isn't getting any help with Shaw out for the season. Shaw draws so much attention and that would have helped him immensely settle in and find his feet these first couple of months. Now with no proper fullback every team doesn't have to worry about Young overlapping him and just double team Memphis.
So what? Memphis is stuck playing with Holland and he has been utter shite for a while now. We cannot afford to have a young and complacent player piling up shit performances in our squad.
You want to talk about man management, I don't think it would be bad man management if the manager creates the internal competition with someone of the same age bracket, especially someone who has been raised in the system. The truth is that Memphis hasn't felt a genuine threat for his spot as of yet since Ashley Young went back down to his "normal" levels. I read about the days when Giggs and Sharpe fought each other for that left wing spot, and I believe that avenue should be taken once again with our 2 young wide players, Memphis and Pereira, fighting for a spot down that left side until one of them takes a full grasp of it to be the regular guy.
He's like a bad version of Nani.
Depth is an issue. He would have competition if we still had Rafael and weren't forced to move Young back to fullback. He still could with Perreira hopefully. We are woefully thin and that's not beneficial to the younger players we have. Martial is going to play damn near every game this season at this rate. That is going to lead to burn out. Our only other option is Rooney and we have seen how he has looked this season. Memphis is suffering at the moment and needs to be dropped due to form alone. The bigger issue was his level of effort. Fergie would have been screaming at him after 5 minutes and hauled him off after 30. That type of display is how you get a boot kicked at your face. There was no tracking back today. I'd be curious to see a heat map because before Martial arrived he was routinely our furthest player forward. That type of display today is shambolic and not representative of Manchester United.
He genuinely needs to bulk down. He's not agile enough to be playing on the wing at the minute.
Would agree with this. He's too bulky and makes it harder for him to get around people quickly and change directions. Not worried about him long term, but he needs to improve his decision making if he'll be starting every game.
Again, he needs to lose some mass. He's clearly not got the flexibility to accommodate all of that mass. If he wants to be a winger he has to be agile
Everyone saw this coming. He is a player we need to get used to, extremely frustrating but we need to stick with him and hope. Don't see an issue with resting him for a bit but we're going to have to wait a while before Depay can shine.
He needs a break. Needs to train some other tricks. Needs to find out a way to deal with 2 opposition players.
He needs to go to bench.
He needs to go to bench.
Hazard being out of form, does not make Memphis any better. The whole Chelsea team is a mess. I dont know why we are even comparing our mess with theirs.
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