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2015-16 Performances

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5.4 Season Average Rating
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45
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7
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5
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I honestly can't see what he's actually very good at. He's just so 'meh'.
 
Kopral Jono said:
Goals against a very poor team in Club Brugge riddled with injuries. There's a good player in him but I just don't think he's United quality. I'd love it if he proved me wrong in the future but I'll be surprised if he makes it here.
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They weren't as bad a side as some were making out and the technical level displaced was pretty impressive, I'm just that wasn't just a flash in the pan.
 
ivaldo said:
They weren't as bad a side as some were making out and the technical level displaced was pretty impressive, I'm just that wasn't just a flash in the pan.
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They were missing about half of their first team players if iirc.
 
He needs to be benched for a few games, too much too soon.
 
Sam said:
I honestly can't see what he's actually very good at. He's just so 'meh'.
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At the moment. There's a good chance this post will look daft in 12/18 months time.
 
No11 said:
He needs to be benched for a few games, too much too soon.
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I agree. He should earn his place with good performances from the bench and in the League Cup instead of arriving here and being gifted the 7 shirt and a starting place. Let him come on in some games when the opposition is tired and he can get more space.
 
He's clearly a very talented player, but he's young and naive in many respects. He needs time to settle and develop. Unfortunately, with our thin squad he's found himself in the starting 11 more frequently than his performances have merited. Don't lose sight of the fact that Van Gaal hauled him off at half time. That's important. Yes, he was very poor today, but some perspective is required.
 
He was awful but I think its because our Zombie play.
He will be asset in fast attacking play but slow Zombie play is not his style.
 
Pexbo said:
At the moment. There's a good chance this post will look daft in 12/18 months time.
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I bloody well hope so! I'm just struggling to see which are the standout areas of his game atm. As one of the posters above said, he doesn't seem particularity fast or skillful. Nor does he seem to be a very good dribbler, finisher, or crosser.
 
SATA said:
I thought he was pretty good at dribbling like Hazard is, it appears not to be. At least not yet
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A lot of people thought he will me similar player for us. Don’t know why to be honest, even if you’ve seen him on some YT clips you could see his strengths are totally different to him.
 
Performance has dropped quite a bit. Maybe he feels he'll get the left wing spot regardless of how he plays. I mean, despite Young being great when he come on against Liverpool, Depay still played the next game, and continues to do so. Think he needs a few games on the bench.
 
Sam said:
I bloody well hope so! I'm just struggling to see which are the standout areas of his game atm. As one of the posters above said, he doesn't seem particularity fast or skillful. Nor does he seem to be a very good dribbler, finisher, or crosser.
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To be fair to Memphis he does have a solid (at times hit-and-miss) shot and cross in him but that aside, unfortunately, he's close to being more or less a nothing player. I really can't see the reason why some on here keep on harping about his alleged high ceiling. There hasn't been evidence of that whatsoever.
 
we might as well have kept Nani.

He's much more effective than Memphis at least Nani could actually go past his man
 
He and Rooney need to play for their places instead of being guranteed a starting XI spot. Competition for places. If we'd signed Pedro maybe he and Mata wouldn't need to start every game.
 
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Sam said:
They were missing about half of their first team players if iirc.
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They aren't Scunthorpe or Doncaster though. It wasn't the goals he got that was impressive, it's how they got them, the finishing and technique.
 
ivaldo said:
They aren't Scunthorpe or Doncaster though. It wasn't the goals he got that was impressive, it's how they got them, the finishing and technique.
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One swallow does not a summer make. My point being, Macheda took his goal against Villa in 2009 incredibly well and at one point he went on loan to... Doncaster.
 
Slaughtered in here today then.

Stats:
0 shots
12/16 passes
75% completion
2/4 lost passes were through balls into the box
1/3 take ons
0/3 crosses
2 ball recoveries
1/1 tackles
1/1 clearances

That tells me he wasn't as bad as people are making out though I agree he didn't have a very good game. He needs to improve his tracking and defensive side but again, there is a caveat to this because it appears to be a clear instruction for him to remain high up the pitch as an outlet ball. That said, his failings today were also part of a unit failure across the attacking midfield zone. Rooney and Mata suffered today (Rooney in particular in that first half) and allowed Arsenal to over run us too easily.

There also needs to be respect shown to Arsenal themselves, they dominated us and sometimes you're just not going to get a good game in the face of that sort of opening spell and 45 minutes of action.

Also interesting to note that there was not 1 pass between Memphis and Martial. Whether that was a deliberate instruction, knowing that both players are likely to want to be on the end of a move rather than links within a chain.
 
He's a big talent but not ready yet, makes plenty of wrong decisions and it always feels that he's lazy or too causal on the pitch, he needs to be benched for a while.
 
What i see in every game is Memphis being doubled in every game. Everytime he get the bal the RB one more just press him and he have nowhere to go. What he can do is to watch the videos how teams are defending against him and watch where the space opens when they do that because everytime 2 players press him it must be the space to pass somewhere.
 
Kopral Jono said:
One swallow does not a summer make. My point being, Macheda took his goal against Villa in 2009 incredibly well and at one point he went on loan to... Doncaster.
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And that wasn't an exhaustive list of his accomplishments either, he's show us plenty of moments of genuine quality, he just needs to be a little more consistent with it.
 
was truly awlful today!!!

offered nothing up front, was selfish, didnt work hard enough, didnt track back at all, reminded me off Nani!

he cant keep giving performaces like that, he isnt good enough to be that much of a passenger!
 
FC Ronaldo said:
Slaughtered in here today then.

Stats:
0 shots
12/16 passes
75% completion
2/4 lost passes were through balls into the box
1/3 take ons
0/3 crosses
2 ball recoveries
1/1 tackles
1/1 clearances

That tells me he wasn't as bad as people are making out though I agree he didn't have a very good game. He needs to improve his tracking and defensive side but again, there is a caveat to this because it appears to be a clear instruction for him to remain high up the pitch as an outlet ball. That said, his failings today were also part of a unit failure across the attacking midfield zone. Rooney and Mata suffered today (Rooney in particular in that first half) and allowed Arsenal to over run us too easily.

There also needs to be respect shown to Arsenal themselves, they dominated us and sometimes you're just not going to get a good game in the face of that sort of opening spell and 45 minutes of action.

Also interesting to note that there was not 1 pass between Memphis and Martial. Whether that was a deliberate instruction, knowing that both players are likely to want to be on the end of a move rather than links within a chain.
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the most disappointing stat there is his one tackle....

we were slaughtered down that side in the first half and I didn't see him helping Ashley Young, who was clearly struggling....

I'm not overly bothered about goals and assists - they will come - but he needs to work much harder for the team
 
When he has the ball bellerin and cazorla double teamed him straight away, he was rarely ever free to take him on. The midfield or young never supported him very well either. Defensively though he could definitely do more, I think young should have perhaps started on the wing but because Valencia played badly he obviously wanted to give young a go in defence.

Either way we massively miss Shaw.
 
Some of the criticism is very over the top. These are growing pains, he has already shown enough glimpses of quality to get excited about. I do think Van Gaal should take him out for a spell, he needs to know that he has competition for his place.
 
He'd look far better in a 433 than this 4231.

He'd have less defensive work and could stay higher up the pitch.
 
Since joining he's had one good game against Brugge all other games he's been pretty poor.
 
He'll come good he just needs a break for a bit, but the Shaw injury is making that tough, maybe Rooney on the left for a bit when Herrera gets back .
 
Lawman said:
Since joining he's had one good game against Brugge all other games he's been pretty poor.
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Basically this. But apparently pointing that out makes you a 'hater'.

All in all, he's been massively massively disappointing, and hasn't shown even close the quality I was hoping for. Inconsistency is one thing, and we all expected it, its the fact that he's just now showing much basic qualities that is the real worry. In all honesty, he just doesn't look all that talented.
 
I will give him plenty of time, because he will work hard and he will become great, but you do wonder what the difference is between Martial and Memphis. Martial is 2 years younger, doesn't speak the language, didn't have a preseason but still looks far better than Memphis. Interesting to see how the two develop.
 
Surprised by the ridicilously low standards by some posters. Giving time is one thing but top 4 is no guarantee for United like in the Ronaldo days. And yes, Ronaldo was given time too but Ronaldo at 21 was much better than Memphis so let's stop using the 'Ronaldo was given time' excuse. It's not just that offensively he doesn't perform good enough, he also has a serious lack of motivation to track back and he looks annoyed all the time. Let's call a spade a spade.
 
Don't see the talent at all in this guy, what you would expect from a talented youngster is what Martial is doing now or at least what Januzaj was doing in his season with Moyes. Memphis basically reminds me of Nani except that Nani was actually good every now and again
 

This is ronaldo's debut @17, i think people are crazy if they think memphis is something special.

Memphis does not come close to that at all. He does not have the pace, the skill or the crossing ronaldo had. He has more strength but by the time ronaldo was 21 he had surpassed memphis in that too. Yes its an unfair comparison, but people asking for him not to be dropped and those who think he is an elite talent need to see this and smell the coffee. I think memphis right now does not have much going for him, he is average.
 
His decision making is virtually non existent in a lot of matches he's played in so far. He doesn't seem to be aware of what is around him, a lot of times today he allowed himself to get boxed in by Arsenal's defenders when the better option clearly would've been to lay the ball off to a team mate.

It's a bit premature of posters to compare him to Nani so early on in his United career, the lad clearly has talent but will take time to develop.
 
Phil said:
People are too harsh on him.
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Replace harsh with clueless. I guarantee in a new look side with no Rooney, Mata and Carrick. . He'd come good long term. He is definitely better than Nani but obviously no Ronaldo.

He needs freedom to play his game and needs a quick side around him so he can have more space to work with. I also think Martial taking the limelight must be a shock for him too. . He'll adjust to it and become the star we need him to be.

The focus should be on Rooney not Depay.
 
Maradona10 said:

This is ronaldo's debut @17, i think people are crazy if they think memphis is something special.

Memphis does not come close to that at all. He does not have the pace, the skill or the crossing ronaldo had. He has more strength but by the time ronaldo was 21 he had surpassed memphis in that too. Yes its an unfair comparison, but people asking for him not to be dropped and those who think he is an elite talent need to see this and smell the coffee. I think memphis right now does not have much going for him, he is average.
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Does he? He looks big but when actually forced into a physical battle, he's weak as piss.
 
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