DevilRed
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No Thanks.
Rare that a flop would get a second chance at our club. Never happens.
Rare that a flop would get a second chance at our club. Never happens.
In all honesty, who else do you think is attainable?Annoying to constantly see this thread at the top. He is not good enough. Not even as stop gap.
In all honesty, who else do you think is attainable?
They have got to be cheap and or free. We are allegedly interested in Felix but need the loan fee/overall fee to be reduced. Even Arsenal want the fee to be reduced.
Even in Jan on a regular season a decent striker would be hard to get, let alone in one where we are actively looking to sell within the next 4 months.
Depay is the best option we have for the money we have!
Are you attributing his younger flashy show off mentality, to him now, a much more mature, professional, experienced Memphis?Rather have nobody than him honestly. He's not the mentality monster type of player we need. The likes of Casemiro, Varane and Martinez.
Rather have nobody than him honestly. He's not the mentality monster type of player we need. The likes of Casemiro, Varane and Martinez.
Rather have nobody than him honestly. He's not the mentality monster type of player we need. The likes of Casemiro, Varane and Martinez.
Sign him, we need options other than Martial
I don't see how this happens until the last minute with Barca. We won't buy him and they won't want to loan him. They have nothing to lose holding onto him until then.
They can just wait until the last minute to loan him in that case, it doesn't make a difference doing it early for them and more time to hawk him out for a sale.Yes they do. They are not renewing him, he isnt starting and they should in principle offload his salary.
I’m curious people who are saying he isnt good enough have they watched Memphis play or is this basically thoughts on his first stint. He isnt going to win any scoring awards but beyond Martial we have Charlie Mcneil and nada. Based on career aNd stats he is easily on par with Martial is he not ?
The biggest problem with Memphis is that at a relatively high level he's only been successful as a false 9 for Lyon and Holland. At United, he's squad player material, but it's rather hard to accommodate a squad player in that way.
You could see this with Xavi where he tried playing off the left and in the no 10 role because Memphis didn't fit his idea of a CF and it just didn't work at that level.
He's a bit too injury prone for my liking as well. All things considering, he's not the right player.
He was injured the 2nd half of last season (and again coming into the world cup) He did quite alright in the first half of last season when Barca were terrible (not due to him) and became their top scorer (12 goals of which 4 were penalties, 2 assists in 28 matches) because of the many personnel changes. His overall game wasn't anything special. He plays very much like Bruno when he was really frustrating. Works hard off the ball and loses the ball a ton trying to create. He hasn't shown the ability to play differently from this.Interesting didn't know this, good to hear an actual argument for why not to get him in rather than just "avoid, he's shit".
I assumed he played traditional number 9 role and not false 9. He did well for Barca before they bought Lewandowski though did he not?
The biggest problem with Memphis is that at a relatively high level he's only been successful as a false 9 for Lyon and Holland. At United, he's squad player material, but it's rather hard to accommodate a squad player in that way.
You could see this with Xavi where he tried playing off the left and in the no 10 role because Memphis didn't fit his idea of a CF and it just didn't work at that level.
He's a bit too injury prone for my liking as well. All things considering, he's not the right player.
He was injured the 2nd half of last season (and again coming into the world cup) He did quite alright in the first half of last season when Barca were terrible (not due to him) and became their top scorer (12 goals of which 4 were penalties, 2 assists in 28 matches) because of the many personnel changes. His overall game wasn't anything special. He plays very much like Bruno when he was really frustrating. Works hard off the ball and loses the ball a ton trying to create. He hasn't shown the ability to play differently from this.
Long term his playstyle isn't ETH's (or Xavi's) preference in any position and it's clear why Barca have replaced him. He had no intention of leaving in the summer and he's 29y old. He probably wants a long term deal with a signing on fee. There's all sorts of reason why he's not a good fit.
He's transitioned into a different (and better) kind of player since his time at United. And if he could "hack it" in La Liga, I'm sure he could do a decent job in the EPL too in his preferred false 9/playmaker role for a team willing to accommodate him.
Fair enough then. Whilst I see what you are saying, as a last resort I would take him for the rest of the season though I see Xavi has said today he is going nowhere.
We would be taking him as squad player for Martial on a likely short term deal. He's likely backup to Joao Felix as an option. And in the summer we will likely go big, or if Martial and Memphis prove fine enough to give another season while we focus on CM then we go big in 2024.The biggest problem with Memphis is that at a relatively high level he's only been successful as a false 9 for Lyon and Holland. At United, he's squad player material, but it's rather hard to accommodate a squad player in that way.
You could see this with Xavi where he tried playing off the left and in the no 10 role because Memphis didn't fit his idea of a CF and it just didn't work at that level.
He's a bit too injury prone for my liking as well. All things considering, he's not the right player.
We would be taking him as squad player for Martial on a likely short term deal. He's likely backup to Joao Felix as an option. And in the summer we will likely go big, or if Martial and Memphis prove fine enough to give another season while we focus on CM then we go big in 2024.
But how good is he a short term option when he has barely played for over a year? Furthermore, what incentive does both the player and his parent club have? It's not appealing to either to make this move happen. I'm not in "he's utter shit" camp, but if we have anything resembling a scouting apparatus he should be pretty low on the list all things considered.Fair enough then. Whilst I see what you are saying, as a last resort I would take him for the rest of the season though I see Xavi has said today he is going nowhere.