Mayweather v Pacquiao (2 May 2015) | NO requesting streams/rivers etc in this thread

Who will win ?

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Jippy said:
He'd get knocked out and would it really fly as PPV? Feck, it's 6am and I'm not that sleepy:(
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I don't see Khan winning that fight, but I can't see Mayweather knocking him out either. It's quite hard to knock somebody out when you don't throw a punch.

The only way I can see Khan winning is staying outside trying to just pin Mayweather with his longer reach and force Mayweather to chase the fight.

Would be boring as feck, Khan probably wouldn't have the discipline for it, and Mayweather would only take the fight in LV where the judges would score it to him anyway.
 
The reason Mayweather isn't one of the top 5 boxers of all time is that he fights for decisions, not knockouts. The last time he knocked someone out and it wasn't A) a woman or B) a cheap shot was 8 years ago.

Look at the knockout:win ratio of Ali, Robinson, Johnson, Leonard, Louis, Tyson, Marciano, Foreman, etc. compared to Mayweather.
 
VanGaalEra said:
That's what people said when Tyson/Lewis heavyweight era passed. It's what people said when Oscar De La Hoya left the sport and especially after that Mayweather fight everyone said boxing would not get a bigger fight. Here we are, just a few years down the road for the biggest fight ever.
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Well lets see, there were still big fighters left in both of those era's you mentioned, im really struggling to name but a handful spread across different weights at the moment. Id go so far to say 95% of boxers aren't even household names at the moment and thats worrying for the sport.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Is this guy actually better than Mohammed Ali? Was Ali a wimp or did he actually come out to play?
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My father still talks for Ali matches versus Fraizer and Foreman. I won't talk after 50 years for this match. Or any other Mayweather match.

He has probably the best record ever, but he is a very dull boxer to be remembered like Robinson or Ali.
 
VanGaalEra said:
I'm not sure about that mate, huge risk and what's the most Floyd has ever weighed for a fight? It was 151 for the Cotto fight I believe. He couldn't even get to the light middleweight limit let alone Middleweight.
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I'm sure he's (GGG) said he could make 152.
 
NM said:
No, but he wasn't a complete fighter, and got shown up for it eventually.
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I agree with that, but you have to admit if it wasn't for his troubles outside the ring and the ones in his own head, it would have taken a lot more than Buster Douglas to knock him off his perch. Tyson could have easily gone undefeated for a few more years at least.
 
Mayweather is not an incredible fighter but he is an incredible boxer. People seem to be unable to distinguish between the two and think throwing misses and getting hit is the aim of boxing.
 
sullydnl said:
Think the Mayweather/Chelsea comparison are unfair, it kind of underplays Mayweather's brilliant technique and intelligence. If anything he's like a vintage Italian side.

People were paying that money for the occasion, not the actual fight. Pac was always going to need to be in special form to stop Mayweather shutting him (and the fight) down.
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I'd agree with this. I'm not a massive boxing fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't get all this 'running away' stuff. The way he avoids shots is incredible, its an art form in its own right.
 
Sir Matt said:
The reason Mayweather isn't one of the top 5 boxers of all time is that he fights for decisions, not knockouts. The last time he knocked someone out and it wasn't A) a woman or B) a cheap shot was 8 years ago.

Look at the knockout:win ratio of Ali, Robinson, Johnson, Leonard, Louis, Tyson, Marciano, Foreman, etc. compared to Mayweather.
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:lol::nervous:
 
Pronewbie said:
In that case shouldn't points be deducted from Mayweather for doing almost absolutely feck-all from an offensive point of view?
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Why? He's standing there to be hit, not running. Defense is as much a part of boxing as offense, and it isn't Floyd's fault if Manny hasn't got the ability to break down a skill that he's worked on for years. It's also not Floyd's fault that people tuned in and expected something completely different when his record suggested that we were in for nothing of the sort.

Besides, Manny's offense wasn't even good. He needs to look at himself on that one i.e. he needed to throw way more, whereas he tentatively approached the fight.
 
Castia said:
Well lets see, there were still big fighters left in both of those era's you mentioned, im really struggling to name but a handful spread across different weights at the moment. Id go so far to say 95% of boxers aren't even household names at the moment and thats worrying for the sport.
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Alvarez is already massive and he's only 24. Andre Ward can go down the Floyd route, he's an amazing fighter.

There's always someone to step up.
 
NinjaFletch said:
Would be boring as feck
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Certainly wouldn't be!

Khan can have a few legitimate criticisms levelled at him but he's a wonderful boxer to watch. He's quicker than Floyd and has as good a chance as anyone at out boxing Floyd on the outside.
 
You can tell in this thread who has never seen Floyd box before. Masterclass from him. Manny goes home and rolls in a bed of one dollar bills ...

This was never going to be a fight, it was always going to be a boxing match playing into Moneys hands. Great technique and so elusive. Not exciting of course, but hes also nearly 40 too.
 
It was predictable I guess but that was pretty dull. I'd rather watch Floyd fight a more inferior opponent tbh and let things go a bit. It was a good performance to nullify such a good fighter but it's an entertainment business and that really wasn't entertaining. More hugs than punches thrown. Didn't look like either fighter took any damage.
 
I can't claim to be a huge boxing fan, but I've seen quite a few Mayweather fights and not sure what people were expecting really. People calling him boring, fair enough, but this wasn't some unusual Mayweather performance
 
Well that was pretty boring...
Can see the Mayweather - Mourinho comparison. Defensive, counters well, good at dodging, very unlikable, very intelligent and always plays it safe. All about the tactics though, and he has the unbeaten record so there you go.
 
@amolbhatia100 you should watch Ali's fights against foreman and Frazier for yourself. He's the opposite of a wimp.

Pretty boring fight, mayweather far too good for paquaoi. Regret staying up for it. First live match I watch like ever and its a snooze fest
 
Sam said:
I'd agree with this. I'm not a massive boxing fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't get all this 'running away' stuff. The way he avoids shots is incredible, its an art form in its own right.
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The "running away" comments strike me as an indication of a lack of knowledge of the sport. Since when is being more accurate and not getting punched yourself running away? They're not supposed to just stand there pounding on each other....
 
Summit said:
I'm sure he's (GGG) said he could make 152.
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He said 154, but Floyd Sr said he doesn't want his son to go near him.

It'll most probably be Khan. Thurman is possible too, as is Danny Garcia. Doubt Floyd will give Manny the rematch.
 
Sam said:
:lol::nervous:
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That's such a terrible post because he mentioned a lot of heavyweights, heavyweight action is about KO's. Bigger guys, bigger punchers.

I enjoy Mayweather fights, his skill is amazing to watch. His defense is brilliant.
 
bosnian_red said:
Well that was pretty boring...
Can see the Mayweather - Mourinho comparison. Defensive, counters well, good at dodging, very unlikable, very intelligent and always plays it safe. All about the tactics though, and he has the unbeaten record so there you go.
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But people so say his competition has been weak.
 
Theafonis said:
Mayweather will fight either some no-name kid from Michigan or Khan. Why can't Khan fight though?
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Ramadan runs through to the end of July. He can't really get ready for a fight in 6 weeks, that too against Floyd.
 
bosnian_red said:
Well that was pretty boring...
Can see the Mayweather - Mourinho comparison. Defensive, counters well, good at dodging, very unlikable, very intelligent and always plays it safe. All about the tactics though, and he has the unbeaten record so there you go.
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It's not though. If it was just about the tactics then other fighters could do what Mayweather does but they can't. The level of technique that takes is insane, even if it isn't particularly attractive.
 
sullydnl said:
The "running away" comments strike me as an indication of a lack of knowledge of the sport. Since when is being more accurate and not getting punched yourself running away? They're not supposed to just stand there pounding on each other....
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You're right and they won't be running back to watch another boxing match for a long time.

I've watched a few heavyweight fights that were exiting. This was just a snore fest.
 
VanGaalEra said:
That's such a terrible post because he mentioned a lot of heavyweights, heavyweight action is about KO's. Bigger guys, bigger punchers.

I enjoy Mayweather fights, his skill is amazing to watch. His defense is brilliant.
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Agreed. Its like he sees the punches before the opponent throws them. Its incredible.

Surely that kind of skill is something he was just born with? As opposed to something that can be coached?
 
The funny thing is Khan, while being a pretty mediocre fighter will probably give him a good fight. He's fast and while his chin is questionable I just don't see Mayweather throwing many knockout punches. Mayweather will win but I think he'd put up a better fight that Pacquiao did tonight.
 
Sam said:
Agreed. Its like he sees the punches before the opponent throws them. Its incredible.

Surely that kind of skill is something he was just born with? As opposed to something that can be coached?
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Coached by his dad from an early age with some good genetics to throw in.
 
sullydnl said:
The "running away" comments strike me as an indication of a lack of knowledge of the sport. Since when is being more accurate and not getting punched yourself running away? They're not supposed to just stand there pounding on each other....
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People who don't appreciate it should just go down to their local pubs and bars and hope for a brawl. That's what their hoping for.
 
sullydnl said:
The "running away" comments strike me as an indication of a lack of knowledge of the sport. Since when is being more accurate and not getting punched yourself running away? They're not supposed to just stand there pounding on each other....
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If anybody suggests he runs, that's a load of shit. He likes to keep opponents at a distance, but it's not like he's a pushover if they want to get close e.g. when he's on the ropes. He always punishes his opponents with amazing precision, and, as they appropriately summed it up during the fight, "nobody likes being punched on the nose." He doesn't have amazing power, but it's enough to punish.
 
Castia said:
The funny thing is Khan, while being a pretty mediocre fighter will probably give him a good fight. He's fast and while his chin is questionable I just don't see Mayweather throwing many knockout punches. Mayweather will win but I think he'd put up a better fight that Pacquiao did tonight.
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I agree, I think Khan May would actually be an exciting fight.
 
carvajal said:
If someone watches a football game for the first time and it's Chelsea or some another team parking the bus probably will think that is a boring sport.You can explain him that was a masterclass,brilliant at profesional level,etc .Today they had a chance to get many fans for the sport and I think they got the opposite.If they reward that defensive style I guess that the rest of boxers will copy and adapt to it even more
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Football has an objective - scoring more goals than the opponent. Not sure what boxing's is tbh.
 
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