Floyd landed 60 more punches than Manny. But Manny looked like he threw more so should have won or something !!!!
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Can we look at the win:loss ratio of those fighters againsy Floyd's as well?
Floyd just dismantled the best there is to offer and he did it easily.
I know it's not fashionable to appreciate defensive mastery but I do. In fact I think it's a harder art to master. We've seen plenty of punchers over the years. Only a handful of guys who have mastered defense like Floyd has.
Gone are the days of Tyson, where brutal force and intincts would smash any defense, gone are the days of Lewis and Tszyu when masterclass in attacking prevailed over defending. We now live in the era of Klitsckos and Floyds where longer reach and advantage in height allow you to defend perfectly, thus making fights less entertaining. At the end of the day, results and points count and Floyd got exactly what he wanted. Not sure about the spectators though.
Judging by Mayweather's performance I can kind of understand why they need guns in America, its because they wouldn't last 30 seconds in a real fight 
Would love for that to happen but no chance Floyd takes on that beast.
Also wouldn't weight be an issue?
This was the same problem last year, Khan apparently backed down from Floyd's offer to fight.
Maybe in a year's time, he'll fight Khan to get the 50-0.
I agree. Unless some boxing prodigy emerges, I think I'll rather watch UFC.
As I expected. Mayweather avoided Pacquiao when Pacquiao was at his best. GGG would likely destroy it, but then again I think that it would be a bot of an unfair advantage. It is something elsefighting a De La Hoya who was past it and something else fighting a boxer on his prime like GGG.
Incredibly good technically, boring for the masses but Mayweather knew what he was doing and did it impeccably.
His speed and reactions are natural I would have thought. He was born into a boxing family and has boxed since he could walk, it is like breathing for him. You can coach the techniques but then you need someone with the speed, reactions and most importantly the dedication to rehearse and perfect those techniques. Then you need a personality that is able to cope with the pressure of this level of event. So yeah, it takes a very rare kind of person.
Is ufc more aggressive?
Boxing really is a rotten sport - but that's what happens when you let business take over the sport. And nothing is going to change as long as fans lap up the hype and pay $100 to watch ordinary fights.
Yeah I think it is a lot of natural talent, he has amazing genetics and he puts in a lot of hard work. Never out of shape.
His father and uncle had the same style but we're obv not at Floyd's level. He's just an incredible fighter, he's so smart inside the ring and has the ability to adjust to any fighter.
His speed and reactions at 38 is incredible.
First part fair enough, but they are 39 and 36, no one wants to see them retire with a brain injury
If you want to be entertained, watch Canelo vs Kirkland next Saturday. And then GGG the Saturday after. Plenty of high level entertaining fighters out there.
Yes, I would say so.
GGG says he will go to 150 but Floyd won't take the fight I don't believe. It is the one fight out there that would really enhance his legacy though.
Yeah but Oscar was never a natural junior middleweight, while GGG has been at middleweight all his life. Having said that, GGG coming down to 154 could affect his performance. It'd be a great match-up, but no way Floyd takes that fight. And it's probably a bit unfair on Floyd to demand it too.
But that could happen if they was 29 and 26...
I can barely tolerate the amount of injuries in UFC. Guess we're only another year away from Velasquez' next fight.
He'll beat GGG at 154 and people will say he drained GGG. The guy can't win.
He didn't avoid Pacquiao either, both are to blame. Even Roach blamed Mannh recently for the fight not happening the first time around.
Also, if they did fight in 2010, do you really think it would have been any different?
RIP Boxing. When Mayweather and Pacquiao retire it's over. No stars left.
Long live the UFC.
Long live the UFC.
Can't blame mayweather for this not being an exciting fight. I'm extremely disappointed by how shit paquaoi was.
There are lots of boring UFC fights, especially when they go to the ground. Boxing like any sport is prone to dull affairs. It just so happens that this fight was hyped up to crazy expectations but all the evidence was there before hand that Mayweather would make this into a snore fest.
There are crazy action fights in boxing almost every week.
well 16-112 seemed about right, that post was around the 7th 8th round didn't agree with the 118 - 110 at all.
As i said, wasnt keeping score, will need to rewatch, but its was a nullifying performance rather than dominance.
I agree. However, it might be the only fight which may elevate him to top 3 or so best fighters of all time.
Do you think that he could win against GGG?
If the fight happened in 2010, it might have gone differently. May would have likely win (similar to tonight) but Pac was more explosive than he is now. I mean he thrown today less punches than May, does anyone think that this could have happened 5 years ago?
So GGG is the new flavour of the month.
I'm a big GGG fan, but he needs to step it up himself. Its not like he's tearing apart the top fighters in and around his division.
I'm a big GGG fan, but he needs to step it up himself. Its not like he's tearing apart the top fighters in and around his division.
No one will fight him in fairness. The 'undisputed' middleweight champ won't go near him him.
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Yes I do. Mayweather has a significant reach advantage over Paquiao that makes his style even more effective. I don't believe that Pac could ever have beaten him.
Yeah, pure legacy fight. People will respect him for taking that fight no matter what happened. But that's what all of the true TBEs did, they dared to be great.
Anyhow, I think GGG would cut of the ring and kill him with body shots most likely.
Because he is too good for other champions to want to fight him. Whydo you think Floyd doesn't fight him?
Aye, people immersed in a sport will naturally think theirs is more entertaining. It'd be weird if they didn't really. I'm sure a lot of boxing fans find UFC as tedious as some UFC fans find boxing.
Let's face it, if we were only interested in the most immediately exciting sports then we wouldn't be football fans either.
many of us disappointed and upset after the fight when actually a big % watched it for free online.Imagine the people in Las Vegas after paying 1000/15000 dollars,they should force them to fight to death
Have you thought maybe he threw less punches because of the way Floyd backed him up and countered him early? How many punches has Manny thrown in his last 2/3 fights, a lot is the answer. Pacquiao has always struggled with two types of fighters. 1. Counter punchers 2. Boxers with good movement. Mayweather is brilliant in both facets.
I think Mayweather beats GGG if they meet somewhere in the middle. Going up to 160 would be really tough. I mean he's hardly the biggest Welterweight, he'd probably have to eat himself to just get up to 154 lol.
Well that's rubbish. What about the 24 year old Mexican who did 2.2m PPVs in 2013? Don't see anyone in UFC doing that. Or even half of that...
He threw less punches because of mayweather rather than him aging. Everyone throws stupidly low amounts of punches at Floyd compared to normal. It's not a coincidence.
De La Hoya has been bitter about Mayweather since they fought. They always take shots at each other, I wouldnt be surprised to see Mayweather get the De La Hoya cross dressing picture back out soon.
Unfair to compare heavyweights to a welterweight, look at his knockout record compared to Pacquiao for example and it's quite similar.
I'm no UFC expert but hasn't it also been struggling recently? Boxing seems to "Die" every year and yet people will come back as soon as a big fight is announced.
No one wants to fight him which is why he's stuck fighting who he does. Listen to any interview with any boxer and they say he doesn't "sell fights" It may be true to an extent but he'd sell fights vs a big name, just none of them will go near him.
I thought Mayweather was the clear winner, people who criticise how he fought obviously haven't seen much of him in the past, I don't know how people are surprised.
It's funny how Pacquiao will get no criticism for this, he had no answer at all for Mayweather and got really shown up. I had it at 8-4 Mayweather. If Pacquiao and his corner really think that he won that fight then I'd suggest looking at replacing them all, he needed a knockout from Round 10 pretty much.
Mayweather will probably retire undefeated can't see anyone coming close. I don't know who he'll fight next, part of me thinks Brook might get a shot and Mayweather a comfortable win to unify the welterweight division before retiring.
UFC also has the advantage of being one promotion that dominates its respective sport, allowing it to make the fights that the fans want and giving its stars as much exposure as possible.
Boxing's riddled with politics, corruption, etc. and it's hard to know where to look for the action when you only have a passing interest. Shame that people consider fights like Pacquiao-Mayweather to be representative of boxing in terms of entertainment value.
Exactly. No-one gave a chance to Ali when he had to fght Foreman. Almost a decade older than Foreman while Foreman was on a fantastic form, destroying everyone. If Ali wouldn't fight that match, would he had been remembered as he is now? I doubt it.
Floyd should take that fight, get 200m. But before that, book a hospital.
I know GGG has gone on record to say he doesn't what to move up to Super Middleweight to fight Ward or even Froch, I think he could do that, of meet both in the middle.