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Mayweather v Pacquiao (2 May 2015) | NO requesting streams/rivers etc in this thread
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I knew I felt lazy this morning but I didnt realise I was that bad.
I always thought Mayweather was too good for Pacquiao and would have beaten him if they were to meet in the ring. The more I think about it though makes me change my opinion to a Pacquiao win. I think Mayweather may struggle against Pacs speed not to mention his southpaw stance. Them two factors make boxing against very awkward. Having said that Mayweather is also no slouch and has fought many speedy punchers in his time and dealt with them. As gay as it sounds my head says Floyd and my heart says Pac.
A few points regarding the event.
- This fight should have took place about 6 years ago when they were both better fighters. Everyone knew they would end up facing eachother as its too much money to let go. The farce that is current boxing is all about self promotion rather than the sport itself. The whole controversy over Floyd using xylocaine and Pac allegedly refusing to undertake Floyds drug test (why should he?) was embarrassing. Boxing is probably the only sport where the best don't always come against each other. Imagine Barcelona and Real Madrid not playing each other due to indifferences. I've lost time for mainstream boxing.
- Mayweather is a materialistic cnut but his ability as a boxer deserves nothing but admiration as he has mastered it imo
- I hope Pacquiao wins because I think he is a genuine humble person
- I hope Mayweather gets beat and has to admit he was outclassed without losing his dignity
- Regardless of the outcome both fighters can shake hands and respect one another after the fight ends. It would be scandalous if two of the best fighters over the past decade remain sour.
A few points regarding the event.
- This fight should have took place about 6 years ago when they were both better fighters. Everyone knew they would end up facing eachother as its too much money to let go. The farce that is current boxing is all about self promotion rather than the sport itself. The whole controversy over Floyd using xylocaine and Pac allegedly refusing to undertake Floyds drug test (why should he?) was embarrassing. Boxing is probably the only sport where the best don't always come against each other. Imagine Barcelona and Real Madrid not playing each other due to indifferences. I've lost time for mainstream boxing.
- Mayweather is a materialistic cnut but his ability as a boxer deserves nothing but admiration as he has mastered it imo
- I hope Pacquiao wins because I think he is a genuine humble person
- I hope Mayweather gets beat and has to admit he was outclassed without losing his dignity
- Regardless of the outcome both fighters can shake hands and respect one another after the fight ends. It would be scandalous if two of the best fighters over the past decade remain sour.
When was the last time Mayweather fought a southpaw?
Guerrero in 2013 was the last, before that it was Victor Ortiz. He knocked Ortiz out early but Guerrero went 12 rounds and he pretty much won every one.
I don't know if they're sour towards each other. They seem to respect each other really, there's not been any bad words from either of them about the other fighter in the build up to the fight. They'd never met until a couple of months ago. It's nothing like Mayweather was vs De La Hoya for example.
I have spent the last few years thinking about this fight and if it would ever happen.
I think if this fight was to happen 10 times the money would win 8 of them. Pacquaio is quick and more explosive than most boxers that Mayweather has fought but he leaves himself open too much. Mayweather is far too clever and defensively adapt for him..
Mayweather never wastes a punch which is why as rounds go on he gets stronger. When he does fight someone with much explosiveness he goes for the body early to help tone it down - watch on saturday i expect the same..
People say mayweather picks his fights name me a boxer he has fought in recent times who can't be considered a very good boxer?? He has fought everyone pacquaio has too..
I think if this fight was to happen 10 times the money would win 8 of them. Pacquaio is quick and more explosive than most boxers that Mayweather has fought but he leaves himself open too much. Mayweather is far too clever and defensively adapt for him..
Mayweather never wastes a punch which is why as rounds go on he gets stronger. When he does fight someone with much explosiveness he goes for the body early to help tone it down - watch on saturday i expect the same..
People say mayweather picks his fights name me a boxer he has fought in recent times who can't be considered a very good boxer?? He has fought everyone pacquaio has too..
i've fancied Mayweather to win this from the moment it was annouced and i was sure he'd have beat him 5 years ago too.
but for some reason the past few days have seen a swelling in my pac-balls. I've no idea why, but all of a sudden i can envision him winning, and knocking feck out of him too.
every rational bone in my body says its crazy but i can't shake the feeling. pacman is gonna be on fire and will blast him out within 6 rounds.
it must just be big-fight giddyness. I am sooo freakin' pumped for this
but for some reason the past few days have seen a swelling in my pac-balls. I've no idea why, but all of a sudden i can envision him winning, and knocking feck out of him too.
every rational bone in my body says its crazy but i can't shake the feeling. pacman is gonna be on fire and will blast him out within 6 rounds.
it must just be big-fight giddyness. I am sooo freakin' pumped for this
Part 3.
As @Oggmonster said he fought southpaws Ortiz and Guerrero most recently, both these fighters bizarrely got their shots by beating Andre Berto who had somehow briefly become an unjustified gatekeeper in the Mayweather challenge.
Guerrero was a B level fighter at Lightweight and Ortiz a B- level fighter at Welterweight. Neither were seen as genuinely credible opponents for Mayweather.
A lot of fans look further back to his fights against DeMarcus Corley and Zab Judah, both southpaws, where he took some serious shots, he actually touched down in the Judah fight but the ref failed to call it.
He struggled with Judah especially for six rounds but Mayweather is famed for making the right adjustments in fights while Judah was also notorious for having poor stamina.
There was rumours Judah knocked him down in sparring a few weeks ago as well wasn't there? Was all denied though. Also according to Hatton Mayweather Sr doesn't train well for southpaws. Not sure if that's the case for Roger as well. Although Mayweather is a much better fighter than Hatton so I'd imagine it's not as much as a problem for him as it was for Hatton.
There was also a rumour about a year ago that Floyd had been knocked down in sparring. Perhaps he is getting more vulnerable. Judah has great hand speed too, similar to Manny. Manny is outstanding in foot speed and hand speed actually. I must stop I am starting to think that Manny will win!
Thought that was the best of the 3. All 3 of them do seem to talk about the age quite a bit, still thought all 3 were interesting though.
I keep going back and forth who I think will win, I always sway towards Mayweather on points though.
Just watched those 'inside' shows; Mayweather seems a totally different person to how he's been when I've seen him in previous fights.
I think Roach has talked more smack than Mayweather so far.
I think Roach has talked more smack than Mayweather so far.
I think he's genuinely uneasy about the fight and the prospect of losing the record and status he has built over his entire career. This one fight can undo everything for him.
Nah, he'll still be regarded as one of the best even if he loses. And I'm sure the $200m will ease his pain should the worst happen.
I've heard a few people say his legacy will be ruined, don't buy into it myself. If he was to lose 47-1 is hardly a bad record. The 47 still has names like De La Hoya, Hatton, Mosley, Alvarez, Gatti, Castillo, Judah etc. It's not a poor list. Sure he'd probably want to retire unbeaten but I'm not sure if he thinks its as big of a deal as people make it out, it seems to be a marketing ploy as much as anything. The money does seem to matter to him more, these next 2 fights (his last 2 according to himself) will be for huge money for him....obviously if he bests Pacquiao he can command more money in his last fight but even then Floyd Mayweather's retirement fight is going to generate a lot of money.
It is a bit of a lose-lose-lose situation for him to an extent! IF he loses the fight people will say his legacy is ruined, if he wins the fight people will say it should of happened years ago and if he never took the fight he'd of retired with people saying he ducked Pacquiao.
It is a bit of a lose-lose-lose situation for him to an extent! IF he loses the fight people will say his legacy is ruined, if he wins the fight people will say it should of happened years ago and if he never took the fight he'd of retired with people saying he ducked Pacquiao.
Very surprised to see Floyd look nervous in that video, looks afraid too.
Hope Pacquiao wins, I hate Mayweather.
Hope Pacquiao wins, I hate Mayweather.
Mayweather's 47-0 record is an enormous part of why people think he is great. He is not known for being an exciting fighter and his record (in terms of the fights he has been in) is not particularly great. Without his perfect record of wins, there won't be a lot to set him apart from the other top fighters of his generation, e.g. De la Hoya, Roy Jones Jr, Morales and of course Manny Pacquaio. I think the difference that the two possible outcomes of this fight will have on his legacy is massive. If he wins and retires, he will undoubtedly be seen as the greatest of his generation and some will call him the GOAT. If he loses, he's looking at being regarded alongside half a dozen of the top fighters of his generation, but will in no way ever be talked about as the GOAT.
I believe Pacquiao has the potential to gain a lot of respect if he manages to beat Mayweather.
There's an asterisk next to every great name on Floyd's record. He's also never been in a classic fight, partly because he's so damn good, and partly because he's never really wanted to entertain the crowd. Obviously winning is more important than entertaining, but the greatest always understood the theatre-aspect of the sport.
Was really looking forward to this but saw the price just today. Don't think I'll be trying to stay up and pay 499DKK
I'm convinced Manny will win.
Jah!
Jah!
Floyd is not considered in the GOAT conversation by any intelligent boxing journalist/name that I've read/heard of. Winning or losing won't change that.
Really good read that.
I'd struggle to put him over RJJ, even if he does win this (and his final) fight. RJJ was just a freak.
I've haven't seen much of RJJ, my first experience of watching him was seeing Joe Calzaghe giving him an absolute beating. It's impressive the way he moved through the weight divisions though...assuming he did it naturally...
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I think perceptions of him will change a lot if he does manage to beat Manny.
Most people would agree that he is the greatest of his generation if he goes on to win, and I don't think it would be that far fetched to put the best p4p fighter of what has been a generation packed with boxing talent into the GOAT discussion.
Honestly, that was actually my first fight seeing him live, too. But afterwards, I went and watched all his 90s/preDQ fights I could, and seriously, from 160-175, I don't give any modern boxer a chance against him in his prime. His Fighter of the Decade award was well earned, and if the Calzaghe fight had happened a few years earlier, Super Joe would've been destroyed... And I'm a JC fan.
Circa 2000 Roy Jones Jr. vs Gennady Golovkin, though
What a fight that would've been.Honestly, that was actually my first fight seeing him live, too. But afterwards, I went and watched all his 90s/preDQ fights I could, and seriously, from 160-175, I don't give any modern boxer a chance against him in his prime. His Fighter of the Decade award was well earned, and if the Calzaghe fight had happened a few years earlier, Super Joe would've been destroyed... And I'm a JC fan.
Circa 2000 Roy Jones Jr. vs Gennady Golovkin, though
I don't understand why boxers risk damaging their reputations to continue fighting. I mean, Roy Jones has clocked up 3 defeats since the Calzaghe loss is still fighting at 46!
Well, he was a proven doper, he failed a dope test in 2000.
Fascinating read, really enjoyed that.
I love the knocked down in sparring rumour.....it's a classic rumour that seemingly existed forever for every big time boxer. Though I wouldn't be surprised, since you've got to test your chin out at some point in training.
Floyd has shown a great chin in actual fights. The famous sparring rumour involving Floyd was that he got his ass handed to him in a session with Paul Spadafora and it was seemingly true. Though for Mayweather it was one of his first sessions back in the ring whilst Spadafora had been working for a while. Floyd probably just had a bad day too. Any fighter can get dropped in sparring, especially with body shots, anyone can get caught. You can't read too much into it.
Well I actually did it. I spent 24€ on single card fight.
Great article. Would recommend all interested in this fight to scan it. Thanks for sharing.
Mayweather looks more zoned in than ever, expect a masterclass from him on Saturday.
Heading out on Saturday morning to get on the lash, gonna be smashed come 4am the next morning
Heading out on Saturday morning to get on the lash, gonna be smashed come 4am the next morning
Snap!