Juve may be facing a transfer ban over Pogba. Time to squeeze them. Cough up if you really want Darmian. I prefer to keep him at United.
Matteo Darmian
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He slowly gained Mourinho's trust as the season wore on last season, being selected in most of the big games including the Europa League final. He can be a reliable player (albeit limited offensively) that can play multiple positions.
In today's hyper-inflated market I'd be looking to keep him for anything under £20 million. Otherwise I'd rather him be a solid squad player for us.
And Juve can feck themselves after how they played with us for Pogba. I would milk them for every last penny, and now with Jose in charge I'm more confident than ever that we won't be made mugs out of in the transfer market.
In today's hyper-inflated market I'd be looking to keep him for anything under £20 million. Otherwise I'd rather him be a solid squad player for us.
And Juve can feck themselves after how they played with us for Pogba. I would milk them for every last penny, and now with Jose in charge I'm more confident than ever that we won't be made mugs out of in the transfer market.
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I can't believe I will say this in 2017 after wanted him to leave before. But we will be very mad to sell our first choice left back and also Italy's left back for less than 20m pounds.
30m pounds should be the starting price for him in today's market. Hate it or no or whether we want to call him not United quality, but Darmian is likely going to be Jose's first choice left back next season that means he is in the manager's plan, if we lose him then the manager will need to find a replacement for him and there is no cheap players in today's market so to cover this we will need a big fees as well or at least closed to the Mendy's price (40m-50m pounds).
If Juve can't make 30m pounds or plus bid then we should tell them to go away and find another right back. We will keep him until Shaw is ready to take the LB spot.
30m pounds should be the starting price for him in today's market. Hate it or no or whether we want to call him not United quality, but Darmian is likely going to be Jose's first choice left back next season that means he is in the manager's plan, if we lose him then the manager will need to find a replacement for him and there is no cheap players in today's market so to cover this we will need a big fees as well or at least closed to the Mendy's price (40m-50m pounds).
If Juve can't make 30m pounds or plus bid then we should tell them to go away and find another right back. We will keep him until Shaw is ready to take the LB spot.
Honestly don't know where you guys are getting these valuations. United being rich doesn't mean we shouldn't try to recoup the fee we paid on him even though he hasn't worked out at United. Hoping to get £20-30m for him seems pie in the sky to me.
And the important thing here is if he wants to leave to return to Italy which i suspect he does. Then Jose won't stand in his way as he showed with Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger and Depay.
When did he become our first choice LB?
Because he played less games there than Blind and the same as Shaw.
Darmian out Semedo in...
Darmian played 16 times as a left back last season while Blind played 15 times as a left back last season so I don't know how did you get the fact that Blind played more as a LB. And also he even picked Darmian over any other options including Blind in big games such as Liverpool, Chelsea and etc.
He played the most in that spot than the others and so far we have yet shown any interest to sign a new left back so it's fair to say that Darmian is Jose's first choice left back until Shaw is ready to step up and take the spot.
So if Darmian is good enough for Juve, he isn't good enough for United in the eyes of many people. Makes a lot of sense.
I agree with you somewhat, we didn't get rich by just wasting money, however, this wouldn't be a waste, Darmian can be a good backup to RB and LB, giving him away for just 12-15m when that's how much a replacement will most likely cost and being lucky at that, there's no point unless they're paying 25m, and that's just because it'd be silly to not get rid of a player of Darmians calibre for such a high price, he isn't great, he's just decent and is probably worth around 10-15, but he still has a use.
I'd be happy enough to let him go.
Doesn't convince me on the ball at all, not much use going forward. He was okay defensively over the course of a season but it always sticks in my mind the absolute roasting Sissoko gave him, and he completely went hiding.
He can carry water but will never help us go up a level.
Doesn't convince me on the ball at all, not much use going forward. He was okay defensively over the course of a season but it always sticks in my mind the absolute roasting Sissoko gave him, and he completely went hiding.
He can carry water but will never help us go up a level.
I don't know where did you get that theory of yours from again. I even read the article twice to make sure if I don't miss anything and there is no quote saying that he wants to leave and return to Italy.
And also just to remind you even though players want to leave but Jose won't sell them if the price doesn't meet his own criteria which what happened to both Memphis and Schneiderlin in January windows. Everton had to increase their bid in order to get Schneiderlin and it took a while for us to get rid Memphis.
Please don't let a few very defensive matches at the very end of the season gloss over how utterly, utterly terrible he is in the attacking third of the pitch.
As others far wiser have said, full back is arguably the most important position in modern football. We're simply not going to get very far with him on the left, with his weaker foot, not crossing into the box.
As others far wiser have said, full back is arguably the most important position in modern football. We're simply not going to get very far with him on the left, with his weaker foot, not crossing into the box.
We can't let both young and darmian go without a replacement. So darmian must be kept.
This, I hope to see him move on.
Not without bringing someone in. Jose has already confirmed there will be no mass exodus in the club.
Never really rated Darmian but I don't see how Mourinho will sell the one who ended up as our first choice left back last season, surely Shaw and Blind must be higher on the list if we do sell any fullback.
Juve would be foolish to get Darmian as a LB. They need attacking fullbacks for their 3-5-2 system to work. Darmian at LB is useless for them. Maybe they can get him as a RB to replace Alves who seems to be wanting to leave, but then he is not that threatening at the right as well. If they are looking for a backup for both places, then maybe yes, but you can forget them coughing up 15-20 MP for a backup.
No way to let him go. He is the best player on Europa final and really good defender when the team need to sit back.
Rumour has it Alves is leaving....
With Lindelöf being expected to be the first choice Partner of Bailly in the centre Blind and Rojo might be seen as adequate back-ups for the left side if Shaw keeps struggling with form and injuries.
Jose has said he does not like Rojo as LB though and I would prefer to try Blind as DM more often in case None of our Targets is available for a reasonable Price.
Also Darmian is the only plausible back-up for Valencia on the right so I do not see the Point in selling him now.
Jose has said he does not like Rojo as LB though and I would prefer to try Blind as DM more often in case None of our Targets is available for a reasonable Price.
Also Darmian is the only plausible back-up for Valencia on the right so I do not see the Point in selling him now.
I too am a masochist.
It's interesting though that now we have been cleared of any wrong doing none of the press has mentioned it, but when we were mentioned the press blew up about it.
He's not the caliber of player we need, however, we don't have any real alternatives at the moment. Until we do, we need to keep him.
Let's keep him. None of our LBs are good enough yet so let's keep all of them and see who develops the best under Jose. I felt that all of them got better as the season went on so I have hopes for all of them. We shouldnt spend money on a LB just yet but if Juve want him badly, we should demand a big fee.
Overrated if anything. Average defensively and can't attack at all, people speak about him like he's Azpi.
He was class in the final to be fair, but he needs to show that form consistently for sure.
Played well in the last stage of the season, a solid defender. Italian international. Europa League winner. We shouldn't sell for less than £27-£30m in my opinion. Actually, we should be looking to keep him.
I agree but that's 1 of maybe less than 10 decent games in his whole time here and it was against a shite Ajax side. We need to be unloading players not up to the standard we're aiming for and he's one of the worst.
I think he's a solid rotation player, RB and LB, just need a first choice LB, question is whether Shaw is good enough for it.
I disagree, would rather see a youngster get a chance and a new forst choice come in. CBJ had more decent games there in 1 season than Darmian ever has and Mitchell embarrassed Darmians league performances in 1 game.
Fair enough man, I disagree, but I get where you're coming from! I always want to see the younger players getting a shot.
He will come in handy amongst our defensive line costisting of a 20-24 year olds. Keep him unless juve pays stupid money, its about time we leach them back the money they leached us off when they loaned pogba from us and then resold him back for 90Mil, feck em.
So Dani Alves, brilliant attacking right back whose defensive qualities aren't always immediately obvious, is supposedly being replaced by Matteo Darmian, conscientious defender, extremely limited going forwards.
Darmian performed well, but is really not what we need to be successful as a top team.
He's like Fellaini: would Jose have signed him? feck no. But he was able to follow instructions and got a chance. The next step should be to find better players to fill these roles. We have too many players in the team that "can do a job."
He's like Fellaini: would Jose have signed him? feck no. But he was able to follow instructions and got a chance. The next step should be to find better players to fill these roles. We have too many players in the team that "can do a job."
He's been really bad and I hope we sell him asap.
I honestly thought he won a competition to be a footballer for most of his tenure here. However, he actually looked ok during the last bit of the season and didn't look completely and utterly useless. I wouldn't mind keeping him around for a cover as he can play left and right back. I still wouldn't give a flying feck if he were to leave, mind.
I'd be gutted to see him go. However, I think it will be Darmian's choice if he leaves. He has proven to be a reliable utility player and I can't see Jose pushing him out. But if we do sell, there is no way we sell for £18m. Has to be at least £25m!
I'm exactly with this. I don't rate Darmian either but Jose is at the moment favour him over Shaw and Blind.
Shaw has yet shown if he's ready to take the first choice of his left back, and if Darmian goes that means we need a replacement for him, and obviously Darmian's replacement is likely going to cost between £30m to £50m. Right now, we should only sell Darmian if the bid is £30m or plus IMO.
If we're bringing another FB then yes, we could sell him. If not it would be a crazy decision.
Cant see why Jose would sell him considering he picks him for all the big games and is pretty much first choice left back now. His form towards then end of the season was pretty good as well. Selling him would create a hole that we then need to fill so why create problems for ourselves?
Shaw can't be relied on/trusted by Jose it seems and has constant injury issues (even excluding the leg break), Rojo is not a LB and shouldn't even play there as cover and does anyone see Blind as first choice left back? Selling Darmian will just create an issue.
And also feck Juve trying to low ball us. If they think he is good enough to join the Serie A winners and CL finalists then pay for him accordingly.
Shaw can't be relied on/trusted by Jose it seems and has constant injury issues (even excluding the leg break), Rojo is not a LB and shouldn't even play there as cover and does anyone see Blind as first choice left back? Selling Darmian will just create an issue.
And also feck Juve trying to low ball us. If they think he is good enough to join the Serie A winners and CL finalists then pay for him accordingly.
Darmian played there 18 times:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/matteo-darmian/leistungsdaten/spieler/54906
Blind 20 times:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/daley-blind/leistungsdaten/spieler/12282
We don't have a first choice Left back in my opinion.