Yeah other clubs have not scouted him yet so we better act fast before they do! Though his club supposedly have said others have already contacted them so we are too late!
Matteo Darmian | LVG confirms he's on his way here for a medical
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I wouldn't be surprised if we were to hear rumours regarding City's interest. Then, there was Bayern who were ready to make a bid (or were showing quite a bit of interest).
In glad that the torino fan said that darmian is an adaptable individual. Though he is a RB/LB; theres nothing to say that he is going to be anymore defensively capable than valencia or rafael. Anyone who says so has got 'new signing tinted glasses'.
It would be great if he settled in straight away, but if he doesn't his adaptability may lead to him playing just in front of the defence as a DM.
That way not only could he cover both sides of a narrow defence; but he also has the freedom to push forward and cross from both sides too.
Its interesting, can anyone imagine a narrow defence consisting of 4 ball playing defenders (ie Mcnair, Smalling, CB, Blind), circulated by darmian both defensively & offensively?
It would be great if he settled in straight away, but if he doesn't his adaptability may lead to him playing just in front of the defence as a DM.
That way not only could he cover both sides of a narrow defence; but he also has the freedom to push forward and cross from both sides too.
Its interesting, can anyone imagine a narrow defence consisting of 4 ball playing defenders (ie Mcnair, Smalling, CB, Blind), circulated by darmian both defensively & offensively?
I remember him tearing England apart down that right hand side. Seemed solid defensively too, so if this happens then I'm happy.
Edit: And 12 million for an Italian international is a feckin bargain too
Edit: And 12 million for an Italian international is a feckin bargain too
McNair is not ready regularly yet, it's still either Valencia or Darmian, or any new signing. if we continue with a single holding guy, it's Carrick as long as he's fit in front
I have never seen Darmian play (or I didn't pay attention to him at all if he played for his NT) so I can't say anything about him.
I'm not 100% sure what van Gaal wants from his fullbacks either. There are 2 types of fullbacks: converted centrebacks (better defensively) or converted wingers (better offensively), now ofcourse at a club like Manchester United ideally you want a fullback that's good at both, but I think van Gaal prefers a converted winger. I think he rather gives up a bit of defence for a good attacking fullback - problem is that there aren't many available rightbacks who fit this profile.
If Darmian is very good defensively but also has potential going forward he could be a target. If he is a good passer (everyone under van Gaal including keeper and striker must be good at this) and can retain possesion like Valencia and is tactically adaptable to van Gaal's style to go forward (not just bombing forward, but going forward per instruction) he would fit the profile enough. The fullbacks are supporting the defence and attack, he must be able to do both and never lose possesion unless it's with a cross towards goal. In this market drought of rightbacks he would tick most of the boxes (going by what I've read of him) except that he's not as good going forward, but he could be a good cog like Blind is on the left even though he lacks certain aspects.
Darmian is an outright defender, Valencia isn't.
Darmian is also a regular right back for Italy.
I think the issue here is that not many have seen him play enough to have an opinion regarding his talents, skills etc. However, those who have seen a bit of the guy seem to say quite good things about him. I've seen him play a few times, and he's been very good everytime. Especially, at the World Cup where he was easily one of Italy's best players.
Im surprised there hasnt been because its standard clickbait "journo" protocol to throw MCFC into the mix for all our rumoured targets.
I really don't think it's like that, there's nothing glamorous about signing Darmian, or most fullbacks in truth. Coleman was my first choice once Alves re-signed, but I can see the logic in paying half as much for a very highly rated Italian international fullback who can cover 3 positions and still has his peak ahead of him, hopefully.
You lost me at 'Smalling' and 'ball playing centre back'. Well you lost me before then actually.
I don't think that could work at all.
Do you also reckon Puncheon, Glen Johnson and Shawcross would be better targets than Depay, Darmian and Ramos because of their immense PL experience? Where does it stop?
PL experience is of very little importance. Fellaini had 5 years in England and took longer to settle than Herrera.
Sky Sports are reporting that we have agreed a £12.7m fee with Torino.
according to Sky Italia or?
They're now saying "According to Sky Sources in Italy" on TV.
It is not click bait it is proof of us dragging our feet giving other clubs a chance to find out who this player they never heard of is. Fahct!
From what I've seen via the dubious source that is YouTube videos I really like what I see. Hope we get this deal done before we leave on tour and I get to see him play here in Chicago.
Consider mcnair and blind at RB & LB albeit so narrow that they act almost as RDM, and LDM. Having two defensively orientated but creative capable players MIGHT take the pressure off relying on carrick's passing game.
Now, im not saying darmian cant play at RB, he almost definitely will; but theres a strong possibility that his athletiscm and his ability to play on both flanks can be utilised all at once. For that he would have to start centrally.
Example:
Hazard attacks us on the left, if he beats darmian at RB, then we end up with 3 defenders against their attack because darmian has been taken out of the game.
However, if darmian starts centrally, tracking the attacker to the wide positions ( since he is completely flexible between RB/LB), then even if the attacker surpasses him; we will be left with 4 defenders who are all centrally orientated.
Sorry if its confusing!
Its because you arent looking at relevant stats for a defender. Who made the most defensive mistakes out of Valencia and Clyne? Probably Valencia as he made a lot, but none of the sites have a proper stat for it so you get things like Phil Jones having the highest rating in the league.
Yes, but in the meantime Schneiderlin has covered his spot.
It's not confusing, it makes no sense, he is a fullback not a DM.
He has issues in accepting the fact that we could be replacing Valencia as our RB when he has spent half his time over here telling everyone that Valencia is the type of player LVG wants and how we don't understand that Valencia is important to how we play.
If you dont think valencia was important to us last season; thats delusion. No one is saying he is going to be important this season. Im mereley thinking of an alternative to use darmians flexibility as a plan b.
For those who watch him regularly, how good exactly is he going forward? Quite a few times I've read that he's 'technically sound', 'a confident offensive presence', ' good on the overlap' but there doesn't seem to be much end product to show for this. Not expecting any ridiculously inflated numbers of course, because this is Torino we're talking about. Is he a lot better defensively? And if that's the case how much is due to tactical understanding or ball-winning talent or even athleticism. Are we generally confident he could step up from Serie A's slow-paced game as a flank in a 5-defender system?
Urbano Cairo has reportedly said that the deadline for any Torino departure is next Sunday. Shouldn't be too long before we discover if we've signed him or not. 
It is you who are the delusional one here. Valencia was average last season and RB has been one of our weakest spots precisely because we have an out of sorts converted winger playing there. If Valencia was as important or as good as you are trying to make him out to be, it would not have been a priority area for us to recruit.
We need to get this done. Like the sound of him and most importantly as per the Torino fan's post above - he's apparently a very good professional. Attitude goes a long way. I'd rather get someone like this for less money than go for the Coleman's and Clyne's after the raping both Everton and Southampton have done with regards to fees for both Fellaini and Luke Shaw. Sick and tired of the unreal costs for British 'PL' players.
Valencia was average last season. Did a good solid job sometimes, poor other times.
Last season we had one opportunity to replace him. He was the best RB at the club until presently and darmian is an improvement no doubt. Calling Valencia rubbish is unfair; i assume you think rafael would have done just as good obeying van gaals philosophy injury or not. He was picked for a reason; rubbish to you or not.
I agree but Coleman is being compared to the likes Puncheon by the blue balls brigade and its ridiculous. If Everton are asking too much money then so be it all I said was I thought Coleman to be better target in my opinion.
I quite like the fact we're negotiating to bring fees down, as opposed to just paying what teams want or over the odds.
Yes and the reason was LVG didn't have the chance to assess all our options properly before the season started. Hence he got stuck between using a player who is injured half the time or a player who is average at best but can remain fit. He chose the latter and is looking to replace him at the first possible opportunity. If he was as good or important to our plans or how we play as you are making him out to be, we would not be scouting to get a first choice RB as a replacement.
Know nothing about this fella, but he must be doing something right if he's an Italian international.
Will be pleased with this one if it goes through. I'd rather take a chance here than pay double the money to coax Everton into a protracted sale of Coleman.
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