What's PL experience to do with it?
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Hahaha. Surely a wind-up.
From what I've seen of Darmian, he's a good player and certainly fills a massive weakness in your team at right back. He's on a similar level to Clyne but with greater international experience. He won't be as good as some people on here expect but that's because as with every signing he's being built to be 'the next Maldini/Zambrotta'. Lower your expectations a bit. He's a solid RB who fills a gap, not a world beater.
Wait so would you take him over Debuchy or not, just you edited that part out so fast I'm not sure.
PL experience isn't all that important but it'd obviously be a help in that it would make it easier for the new player to settle.
The PL might not be amazing defensively but it is probably a quite different league in terms of pace/physicality, no? Our manager certainly seemed to think it was. Hardly outrageous to suggest a player who has never played in the PL before has more adjusting to do than a player whose been here for years, or that different flaws in their game could be highlighted in a new league.
Plus there's quite a cultural difference between living in Italy and living in England. Someone who had played here before would be better able to adjust to that too.
I wouldn't sign a player just because they have PL experience but that doesn't mean it isn't a factor to consider either.
The PL might not be amazing defensively but it is probably a quite different league in terms of pace/physicality, no? Our manager certainly seemed to think it was. Hardly outrageous to suggest a player who has never played in the PL before has more adjusting to do than a player whose been here for years, or that different flaws in their game could be highlighted in a new league.
Plus there's quite a cultural difference between living in Italy and living in England. Someone who had played here before would be better able to adjust to that too.
I wouldn't sign a player just because they have PL experience but that doesn't mean it isn't a factor to consider either.
Wait so would you take him over Debuchy or not, just you edited that part out so fast I'm not sure.
No I wouldn't and have watched a decent amount of both. It is close though. Took it out because I didn't want to come across like a WUM. At the end of the day, you've got yourself a right back close to the quality of Debuchy/Sagna. RB is your weakest defensive position IMO, it's a good signing.
To be fair he has got what 4 years on Debuchy, I agree it's not gunna set our team alight but I was worried we were gunna neglect the right back spot so it's decent to bring someone in.
This just highlights how fickle fans are!
When we signed Kagawa people raved about him on here, think he was voted best player in the league by the German fans and we all grinned widely when it was suggested that he was a "Barcelona" style player - seems to be forgotten as he became more and more shite for us.
I haven't seen Darmian play but Italian league is nowhere near where it used to be so I am not going to get all giddy that he was voted to be in the team of the year, because, as it showed with Kagawa it means jack shit.
But im also arguing that Valencia's stats aren't better at all.
Better cross Ramos and Otamendi off the CB list
Yes. He fits Van Gaals system due to his attacking contributions which are definitely good for a full back. He will give you a little more potency in the 'easier' games which were your downfall this season and a little more solidity. Not a world beater though but I guess there's nothing better on the market at right back.
Yeah as people totally do not have selective memories and bias their opinions by multiple reasons.
Stats are facts. Its utterly stupid to call them "as useful as highlights".
The problem is most people judge a player on a minimum amount of obvious stats. But if you look at all the stats provided, then theres 0% to argue about.
Example:
Guy A: Valencia has 93% passing!
Guy B: Valencia has 93% passing, 800 backwards, 400 forward and with a forward succesion rate of 76%.
Do you see the difference? Guy A is your highlight guy and practically everyone who says stats are useless/biased/blablabla
I feel he has the potential to be a world beater working under LVG
Should be a good signing. Liked him during world cup. Not exorbitant price as well.
Can't say I know much about him. Hope he winds up one of those somewhat under the radar gems like Evra and Vidic.
If so, hopefully he becomes one within the next season or two so Barca can take him as a Dani Alves replacement before he does too much damage for United!
It does mean Valencia has 101.5% passing backwards, which is unique.
If so, hopefully he becomes one within the next season or two so Barca can take him as a Dani Alves replacement before he does too much damage for United!
Bellerin.
If so, hopefully he becomes one within the next season or two so Barca can take him as a Dani Alves replacement before he does too much damage for United!
They already have Alves replacement ready.
Bellerin.
Nice one.
Not going to happen though. He's already responded to those rumours. I genuinely don't think he likes Barcelona.
Without even getting into whether stats are as useful as highlights (was a throw away comment anyway) its ludicrous to say stats are more useful than "memory based opinions", by which, from what I can infer, you can only mean "actually watching someone play". I know Jones isnt the best U23 in Europe based on my extensive memories of watching him play, stats that say he is are clearly misleading. Even example B is far less useful than actually watching gams because there are so many other factors when determining a players worth, a lot of which are rather intangible. I've only seen Darmian play twice so I won't presume to pass any judgement on him.
That oft cited quote about stats being like miniskirts is perfect.
Things I know about him:
1. He's Italian
2. He's a defender.
I'm sold.
1. He's Italian
2. He's a defender.
I'm sold.
Your guy B isn't smarter than the A guy because, Valencia played a lot more passes in the opposition half which explain the backward passes, the style of the teams play a part in where the passes are made, also Valencia played more but shorter passes in less games.
Cheap and fills a hole that desperately needed plugging.
Next...
Next...
Give it a few years.Nice one.
Not going to happen though. He's already responded to those rumours. I genuinely don't think he likes Barcelona.
8 million + bonus, it would be a great deal considering the quality of the player, the age, the last season performances (47 games played)
I was giving a fictional example, those stats aren't accurate i simply gave an example lol.
Yep, and Darmian's probably an equally good player but we won't have to hand over the family jewels to get him.
He's 6ft, a versatile player that can practically play anywhere on the backline and he's Italian. I approve this deal.
Nice one.
Not going to happen though. He's already responded to those rumours. I genuinely don't think he likes Barcelona.
You keep telling yourself that. I fully expect him to be a Barca player within 3 years if he carries on progressing.
8 Mio? What kind of players would you get for that kind of money in nowadays market? Well beside Nani.
I think Darmian would be a good signing. I cannot see too many alternatives at the moment.
Nice one.
Not going to happen though. He's already responded to those rumours. I genuinely don't think he likes Barcelona.
Yeah, no I honestly don't attach any form of credence to those quotes. What was he supposed to say ? As soon as I'm Mr. Bigshot I'll be taking my talents to La Liga ? Provided Hector continues on his current trajectory and becomes one of the best right backs around, moving to Barcelona would be a matter of when, and not if. Supporters of a lot of other clubs think and hope that it won't happen, but it's inevitable. Especially when it comes to a Catalan to progressed through La Masia, and will be embraced like a prodigal son upon his return.
I am slightly put off by the fact that he looks like Shia Labeouf.
Darmian's a better actor.
Nice one.
Not going to happen though. He's already responded to those rumours. I genuinely don't think he likes Barcelona.
Your tears are going to be sweeeet.
No posts for the last 6 minutes? Come on I need updates!
Could imagine him on the phone to Woody:
DO IT!
JUST, DO IT!
PAY THE MONEY!
DO IT!
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