Yep definitely mate, he can be a good defender when in form if he could add some attacking to his game he could be a real option for us on the right even over Valencia at times. But he just continues to play within himself. I actually suspect Mourinho while appreciating his defensive capabilities is not happy with his attacking effort either, which is probably why Young has started more matches than Darmian this year at fullback.
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Yep definitely mate, he can be a good defender when in form if he could add some attacking to his game he could be a real option for us on the right even over Valencia at times. But he just continues to play within himself. I actually suspect Mourinho while appreciating his defensive capabilities is not happy with his attacking effort either, which is probably why Young has started more matches than Darmian this year at fullback.
See on this bit here, he was more of an attacking threat on the left last year than Valencia on the right. I’m pretty convinced our fullbacks have instructions because as soon as they hit the 18yard box they very rarely go any further. They either cross or recirculate the ball.
Personally I’d rather play Darmian over Valencia as he is just a better footballer and can actually deliver a cross. He seems a lot better as a RWB and to be honest if you watch him he gets in the positions that I would class as better than most of our other fullback options he just never seems to get the ball.
Mourinho's definition of a attacking fullback seem to be to just give the fullback the ball, have a midfielder to cover, and then let the FB do something on their own. In which usually ends up with a terrible cross from a non-dangerous position. With Young and Valencia being former wingers it's only natural that they do this task better than our other FB's, but they are still far from being attacking fullbacks. If we actually had an attacking pattern and FB's on overlap from time to time like every other top side out there we would look way better, but that's too risky...
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Yep, Valencia is considered an attacking fullback on here but compare him to top teams' fullbacks and he is anything but. He is just a standard two way fullback, not an attacking one. Our fullbacks are a massive problem and things won't get better until its solved. I don't see it happening under Mourinho though.
Posts like this are hilarious. You have no idea on what attacking patterns Jose and the team work on during training. What do you think they do? Just work on shape and defending? How deluded can you be?
I remember certain Sergio Ramos' comments on how Mou trained Real Madrid, particularly regarding the attacking part. Not really happy he was.
Yeah, we work on attacking patterns with overlapping fullbacks every fecking day, we just don't ever do it in games. Who's deluded...
Sorry mate who was more of an attacking threat than Valencia? Darmian?
I should put this better when he was in position and was actually asked to deliver his quality on the left was better than Valencia on the right as in the balls he put in were actually decent and on his weaker foot. He posed more of a threat.
I would partly agree that they are certainly not the most productive fullbacks in an attacking sense. But both are way better at attacking than Darmian by default simply due to the fact that they both at least get up the pitch and get involved in the attack.
A lot of the time Darmian can't even be arsed to make an overlapping run to take a marker off whoever is playing in front of him. I mean thats the bare minimum a fullback should offer his team.
I get you now mate yeah Darmian is a decent crosser of the ball from what i've seen, but again we don't see it nearly often enough. For me he just doesn't make enough effort to get up the pitch and help the team attack.
This is why I think he is best at RWB he just seems to be constantly involved. Winning the ball back then automatically turning it in to an attack. He also in an attacking third is more positive with his play, working angles and making runs.
To be honest I’m frustrated with all our fullbacks and I’m sure it has to be a Jose tactic as they visibly stop at the 18yarder. One point last year Martial is running across the width of the box and you can see him waiting for Valencia to make the run and give him the option. There are 2-3 opertunities for him to slip the ball in to the channel if only Valencia would make the run and he never does. Instead he’s back about another 10 yards and they all do this. All of them can’t have come down with this fear of anything past the 18 yarder unless it’s by instruction.
He might be better as a right wing back but i don't think 352 is the answer for United right now. And i certainly don't see Mourinho changing our formation to accommodate Darmian in a more attacking role.
I agree on our fullbacks in general though we really need to upgrade on both, we need top fullbacks who can provide genuine width and attacking threat.
Anyone looking for a souvenir needs to check outside of the San Siro quickly as possible. Think a few of Darmian's deliveries from that first half are still bouncing down the street.
Dreadful on the ball.
Why play him on the left when he is so clearly wank there ?
Basel 1:0 Man Utd
He is not very good at this whole football thing is he?
Defensively suspect today, and offering absolutely nothing going forwards. It saddens me that others have to miss minutes to give him any.
Defensively suspect today, and offering absolutely nothing going forwards. It saddens me that others have to miss minutes to give him any.
Has only ever had a handful of good games with us, had that one good spell of games when everyone thought he was world class but other than that is pretty mediocre. These positions are crucial in football now and the sooner we fix them the better.
Never again. Please.
Another very mediocre player who needs replacing.
This guy eh.
Those who complain about Valencia should always keep in mind just how worse it can get.
His legs have gone unfortunately
My new working theory is that his sideburns are so horrendous, coaches are subconsciously incapable of watching him play, so never notice how abhorrent at football he is.
shit player
What legs?
Has to go absolutely no point in him being in the squad.
Abysmal.
Horrible performance, nearly every pass was backwards! Couldn't cope with the basel left winger either.
As a player he literally has zero redeeming qualities.
Useless.
If Pep was here, there is no simply no chance the likes of Darmian(and others) would be playing.
Jose needs to get rid of this deadwood instead of embracing them like he has. It'll cost him.
If Pep was here, there is no simply no chance the likes of Darmian(and others) would be playing.
Jose needs to get rid of this deadwood instead of embracing them like he has. It'll cost him.
TFM on loan, Axel nowhere to be seen, Darmian gets his minutes regardless of form, guess its experience thing, then again why i am surprised ( Ivanovic case ).
Blasphemy. They're one of the wonders of the world.
This. I have been saying for long time , jose has to be more ruthless. He has to sell these average spineless players that lvg have given us. Useless player darmian
I don't how many times this guy has to prove he's a shambles of a footballer before Mourinho stops playing him.
As a football club our size it is unacceptable to be playing a player of his calibre.
As a football club our size it is unacceptable to be playing a player of his calibre.
Decent defender but he offers nothing in attack. He was shocking in the Italy Sweden game as well, wasting countless opportunities from the wing.
Why is he still at Utd?
It was clear halfway through his first season he was fecking shit.
It was clear halfway through his first season he was fecking shit.
How Tuanzebe isn't in the squad ahead of this wage thief is amazing. Utterly appalling.
Painfully average. He's very painful to watch.
Should be top of our transfer listed players next summer.
Should be top of our transfer listed players next summer.
Fecking garbage today. Another bit of LVG deadwood that needs scrapping.
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