Mats Hummels

"We have had the situation in Dortmund recently that we have lost one of our top performers every year," Watzke told German daily newspaper Bild.
I think it's his year...
 
If he scores as many as Koeman, I'll be happy. It has to be said that Koeman wasn't a traditional CH
I'd just be happy seeing more of the traditional CB goal, like at 1:00 where he brushes Varane out the way and 1:30:
 
if we get Hummels and Chelsea buy Varane I'll be pretty pissed.
Why? Varane would be doing well to reach Hummels level.
Varane hasn't had the best of season when hes been called upon for Madrid. They've looked very shaky when Pepe / Ramos have been out.
 
His lack of pace is the only worrying thing about him, he needs a partner to be able to cover the space behind him.
 
Why? Varane would be doing well to reach Hummels level.
Varane hasn't had the best of season when hes been called upon for Madrid. They've looked very shaky when Pepe / Ramos have been out.

Varane has pace and I'm with Mourinho on this one...he's nailed on to be the best CB in the world. Hummels was part of a relegation bound club for the first half of their campaign.......
 
Varane has pace and I'm with Mourinho on this one...he's nailed on to be the best CB in the world. Hummels was part of a relegation bound club for the first half of their campaign.......
Maybe so but there's been a bit of hyperbole about him while sitting on Madrids subs bench. He's been a bit exposed when starting this season
 
Maybe so but there's been a bit of hyperbole about him while sitting on Madrids subs bench. He's been a bit exposed when starting this season

Hummels is overrated and he'll be with us for 5 mins before the caf are saying he's too slow and he's getting skinned for fun.
 
Hes not been good for about 18 months now. Don't want him anywhere near us tbh.
 
And with United he would have Smalling.

Agree, Smalling is rapid. He's becoming a very good CB and as long as he can stay fit, he'll be a mainstay of our defence. Between the two of them, we'd have a very balanced defence.
 
And with United he would have Smalling.
Smalling wouldn't be able to cover for Hummels with our current rightback. Our right CB is already covering for our lack of a real right fullback when we're playing. He can't cover for 2 players. A top right back and Hummels would make our back 4. :drool:
 
It would be like having Larent Blanc all over again... Scratching grass as Abonglahar type forwards run past him. The Hummel's caf thread will be quit entertaining.
 
Smalling wouldn't be able to cover for Hummels with our current rightback. Our right CB is already covering for our lack of a real right fullback when we're playing. He can't cover for 2 players. A top right back and Hummels would make our back 4. :drool:

How about buying w defender we don't need to cover for.
 
How about buying w defender we don't need to cover for.
Every player has his weaknesses and strengths, that's why its called a partnership. A good back 4 complements each others strengths and weaknesses. You don't just suddenly fit in Nesta or Maldini and your back 4 is world class
 
Every player has his weaknesses and strengths, that's why its called a partnership. A good back 4 complements each others strengths and weaknesses. You don't just suddenly fit in Nesta or Maldini and your back 4 is world class

Very true. But His lack of pace is too much of a weakness for top level in the EPL. He is just too slow, Terry Vidic slow is not a problem.

One thing i do like about him that we would benefit from is that he is a leader.
 
Every player has his weaknesses and strengths, that's why its called a partnership. A good back 4 complements each others strengths and weaknesses. You don't just suddenly fit in Nesta or Maldini and your back 4 is world class

To be honest it doesn't matter who are your fullbacks, if you have Nesta and Maldini, your back four is world class.
 
Hummels in a tv-interview after the match against Bayern: "Yes, I am thinking about leaving Dortmund." In times of meaningless diplomacy... clear words. However, he also said he has no tendency where to go.
 
Hummels in a tv-interview after the match against Bayern: "Yes, I am thinking about leaving Dortmund." In times of meaningless diplomacy... clear words. However, he also said he has no tendency where to go.

Considering he was at fault today. He should have kept his mouth shut.
 
Is he constantly getting skinned by pacy strikers in the Bundesliga?

How many constantly criticising him have seen him play 5 games? 10 games? Over a whole season?

Is every defender in the Premiership super fast and strong? Do we have no defenders in this league who aren't speedy?

If we did sign Hummels, which defenders in the premiership would be better than him?
 
It's obvious, his head is in Manchester and he is trying his best to reduce the fee we have to pay for him.
 
He'd drive me nuts if he played for my club. Captain of the team, shit season, at fault for the goal and then gives an interview after the loss that he thinks about leaving. What a leader he is.
 
He'd drive me nuts if he played for my club. Captain of the team, shit season, at fault for the goal and then gives an interview after the loss that he thinks about leaving. What a leader he is.
Yeah he's talk far too much this season.
 
He'd drive me nuts if he played for my club. Captain of the team, shit season, at fault for the goal and then gives an interview after the loss that he thinks about leaving. What a leader he is.

As opposed to two guys who sign pre-deals during the season to join the only club who challenge for the title.. Mats is well bad.
 
As opposed to two guys who sign pre-deals during the season to join the only club who challenge for the title.. Mats is well bad.
I called both repeatedly cnuts for doing that. I'm pretty sure that gives me the right to call Hummels a cnut without being a hypocrit. Neither of them was captain of their team and performed below par for such a long time though.
 
I called both repeatedly cnuts for doing that. I'm pretty sure that allows me to call Hummels a cnut as well without being a hypocrit. Neither of them was captain of their team and performed below par for such a long time though.

I wasn't aware of that but the notion still stands. Mats is no worse than either Mario or Robert, there is very little loyalty in football these days and in fact maybe it's time us as fans should stop expecting such a thing from players who 99.9% see this as a job rather than a love thing.
 
As opposed to two guys who sign pre-deals during the season to join the only club who challenge for the title.. Mats is well bad.
Yup, he's been constantly asked about this, after a while I suppose you get bored muttering diplomatic bullshit.
 
That'd feck me off if it was our player. In fact it did when Vidic announced he was buggering off.
 
I wasn't aware of that but the notion still stands. Mats is no worse than either Mario or Robert, there is very little loyalty in football these days and in fact maybe it's time us as fans should stop expecting such a thing from players who 99.9% see this as a job rather than a love thing.
I don't care about loyality actually. I don't criticise him for leaving at all, that's his right and maybe even what he needs because he clearly lacks determination at the moment and isn't fully focused. He's much better than what he showed in the past 18 months.

His interviews are beyond ridiculous though. If you take over the responsibility of the captaincy and act and talk like he does at the moment, he deserves to be criticised for it. The season isn't over for Dortmund, the loss today sucked if they still want to reach an Europa League spot and his performances need to improve if he wants to leave with a cup win. He really should shut up and focus on his own performances and the team and nothing else.
 
Bit of a cnut thing to do, keep it indoors don't say it in the media but he's clearly off. And I know he's been off form and all that but a good defence is never about the individuals, it's the system you put them in. Dortmund as a whole has been a shambles this season. Every player would look better in a functioning team and hopefully if we get him he finds his form. Regardless, we'll be replacing Jonny Evans for Mats Hummels so that's not too bad.
 
Not impressed by him tonight, he looked like a player going through the motions, he is definitly better, but I am not sure just how much better ?