hellhunter
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Preach, was a tough childhoodHe lives in Stuttgart while supporting Karlsruhe. Life is already tough enough for him.
Preach, was a tough childhoodHe lives in Stuttgart while supporting Karlsruhe. Life is already tough enough for him.
This is the most frustrating aspect of all for meWe better be in for a big summer if they are penny pinching to this extent.
Thank God it looks like we've learnt. I remember us paying like £5m for a 6 month loan for that random striker we signed under Ole and the crazy amount we spent on Amrabat.With no contractual option to buy him either, if true then the £8m loan fee makes a lot of sense why we pulled out of this one.
I do not struggle to understand the obligation stuff. But.It all very much happened exactly as I wrote. We preferred a sale or a loan with an obligation, which is no different from a sale. That didn’t materialise, because Tel was smart enough not to go to Spurs permanently. So we fell back on the second best option, a loan without an option or obligation to buy.
I really don’t get why people on here struggle so much with that concept. It’s very simple, really. A straight sale or a loan with an obligation guarantees us a nice and heavy fee. That’s cool.
A loan without any shenanigans involved makes sense for us, because we still control the players future.
A loan with an option to buy, however, sees us giving up all control and is a no go.
You think not agreeing to spend £8m on a 6 month loan for a player who's got 0 goals in 14 matches is penny pinching?We better be in for a big summer if they are penny pinching to this extent.
No obviously not.You think not agreeing to spend £8m on a 6 month loan for a player who's got 0 goals in 14 matches is penny pinching?
That still doesn’t explain “dodging a bullet” - that expression carries a negative connotation pertaining the player, no?
And still, the player is seemingly moving to Spurs on a straight loan - no obligation nor option. We’ve actually sanctioned exits and are quite thin upfront - one injury and a bad situation becomes worse - is this good squad planning? Not saying Tel would be the answer to all our problems but I don’t see how allowing for the season to continue to be a nightmare = dodging a bullet
They way I understand the situation, you wanted an option to buy. But even if you didn’t and a straight loan would have been ok with you, Tel might still have considered Spurs to be the better option in such a case. He only rejected a permanent move to them, not a loan.I do not struggle to understand the obligation stuff. But.
As I understand United offered loan without obligation. It got rejected as we wanted a simple loan which Bayern accepted from Spurs side.
This is the part I do not understand and is confusing. Especially Tel's previously rejecting Spurs.
Hahaha, I feel that! I was born in Hamburg but grew up supporting Bayern. And that at a time when HSV was actually the better team. You don't pick clubs, they pick you.Preach, was a tough childhood
Like with Kroos and Gravenberch.If he was a world class prospect Bayern wouldn’t be so desperate to sell him
You weren't exactly desperate to sell Kroos. But neither are you to sell Tel, just Spurs being absolute idiots with that 60m offerLike with Kroos and Gravenberch.
That's the impression I get. They are clearly worried that we won't trigger the option of were anyway.If he was a world class prospect Bayern wouldn’t be so desperate to sell him
This is the part where all the confusion stems from.I do not struggle to understand the obligation stuff. But.
As I understand United offered loan without obligation. It got rejected as we wanted a simple loan which Bayern accepted from Spurs side.
This is the part I do not understand and is confusing. Especially Tel's previously rejecting Spurs.
£8 million for not even 6 months is arguably worse (if true)You weren't exactly desperate to sell Kroos. But neither are you to sell Tel, just Spurs being absolute idiots with that 60m offer
I know. I just find this notion weird that we only sell players that immediately implode the second they arrive at their new clubs. We’ve been wrong as often as the next club.You weren't exactly desperate to sell Kroos. But neither are you to sell Tel, just Spurs being absolute idiots with that 60m offer
No doubt, it's a disaster of a deal. Spurs are proper clowns in this whole 'saga'£8 million for not even 6 months is arguably worse (if true)
You think not agreeing to spend £8m on a 6 month loan for a player who's got 0 goals in 14 matches is penny pinching?
Proper club would point and laugh at SpursProperly run club would try and hijack like Chelsea did famously with Willian
If he was a world class prospect Bayern wouldn’t be so desperate to sell him
Fair enough.This is the part where all the confusion stems from.
The German media reports that United offered to loan him with an option to buy. Which makes sense for United but not for Bayern.
Bayern wanted either a straight loan or a loan + obligation to buy. Spurs offered both of those.
Levy needed to be put in his place after the Kane negotiations. Good to see we accomplished that. Wannabe tough guy negotiater.No doubt, it's a disaster of a deal. Spurs are proper clowns in this whole 'saga'
Proper club would point and laugh at Spurs
Thanks for explaining this more in detail.They way I understand the situation, you wanted an option to buy. But even if you didn’t and a straight loan would have been ok with you, Tel might still have considered Spurs to be the better option in such a case. He only rejected a permanent move to them, not a loan.
Don't appreciate much Bayern does, but you've done the lord's work hereLevy needed to be put in his place after the Kane negotiations. Good to see we accomplished that. Wannabe tough guy negotiater.
Properly run club would try and hijack like Chelsea did famously with Willian. Nah INEOS happy to suffer until the summer just to save money.
I have not followed the development but why is he now joining the same club on loan that already made a concrete and pretty decent purchase proposal? Weird one
Last scored in MayYou're talking like this guy is going to come in and start knocking them in the back of the net.....have you seen his record? It's not better than Hojlund or Zirkzee. 12 goals in 60 games.
He wants to make it at Bayern. Therefore he doesn't want a permanent move to Spurs.I have not followed the development but why is he now joining the same club on loan that already made a concrete and pretty decent purchase proposal? Weird one
Earlier in the window Eintract Frankfurt were going to get him on loan with no option. There is absolutely zero chance that they were going to pony up 8m for the privilege of basically four months.When you put it like that is crazy we are even looking at this guy in the first place. I know, lets solve our problem of non scoring strikers by loaning another one who also can't score.
What's the definition of insanity again....
Last scored in May
It's crazy, I know. Loan with option would've been fine, but Bayern understandably weren't having itand there are people genuinely disappointed we aren't signing him?
Mate, as of now, Tel doesn't want a transfer to Spurs.Earlier in the window Eintract Frankfurt were going to get him on loan with no option. There is absolutely zero chance that they were going to pony up 8m for the privilege of basically four months.
Spurs changed everything by offering 60m. At that point Bayern saw dollar signs and thought lets double our money on a guy who we would prefer to be rid of anyway.
Levy isn't a mug. I'm assuming the reason it's 8m loan fee is that there is some sort of verbal agreement that they will buy him for 52m in the summer. As we saw in another thread, if there is an obligation to buy then from a PSR perspective that actually applies from the start of the loan.