They're different players and there aren't really a lot of things in which markovic stands out but kovacic is a complete package.
Lazar is an attacking midfielder/winger with speed and dribbling ability and there are lots of those at his age.
Mateo Kovacic
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Lazar is an attacking midfielder/winger with speed and dribbling ability and there are lots of those at his age.
You're basing this on maybes. He might, he could, develop his defensive game. Right now, it's missing.
It's far from as simple as saying "coutinho did it so why not Suso." That Coutinho could do it so convincingly was a massive surprise. We should see if Suso could emulate that but we'd be silly to just assume that will happen.
He is already more tenacious that Coutinho as when he came here, has had more midfield experience as well, pressing is something that can be learnt.
I will say again, I would take Kovacic ahead of any midfielder this summer. So long as we could get him on a 5-year deal (minimum), it would be worth not getting a more established player like Kroos or Gundogan even. I hope we don't go the route of tradition where we say 'we had a look at him but we decided because we have the boy Nick Powell...' and let Kovacic go to a rival without a fight.
Along with Thiago when he was coming through, who isn't as special a talent as Kovacic either I don't think, I don't think I've seen a young midfielder like him for many a year. We are certainly talking best player in the world sort of potential. If it meant us struggling more so than we would with a more 'proven' option next season just to secure Kovacic this summer, then I'd say do it. He could be the player to turn things back in our favour in the Premier League and make us the dominant team again.
Along with Thiago when he was coming through, who isn't as special a talent as Kovacic either I don't think, I don't think I've seen a young midfielder like him for many a year. We are certainly talking best player in the world sort of potential. If it meant us struggling more so than we would with a more 'proven' option next season just to secure Kovacic this summer, then I'd say do it. He could be the player to turn things back in our favour in the Premier League and make us the dominant team again.
I bet Kovacic will never be as good as Thiago, Kroos or Gundogan will probably be. I just don't think he's as talented in all honesty.
Fair enough, I suppose this isn't a debate that could be settled on a forum at this stage in his career anyway. That said, I'd find it hard to believe that anyone would have thought a 19 year old Gundogan was more talented than Kovacic today. It is hard to judge Mateo a bit I suppose due to the shambles at Inter and his manager not playing him much (although some may say that in itself is testimony to him not being that good).
I would rate him on par with Pogba as the best u21 CM around.
Indeed. He reminds me very much of Iniesta the way he moves with the ball.
I have only seen him on 2 occasions. He looked really classy and showed great composure for a 19 year old.
Would be nice to have done some business with Inter seeing as they are having Vidic off us
Having a great game so far against Lazio. Made some passes our central midfielders will only dream of this season. He is certainely one of the young players to watch out for in the world cup.
That pass.....
The central midfielder United needs!!Really starting to come around to him, really all action player. Stick him beside a good defensive player with good ball skills and passing and I reckon he'd shine in England. Can't be unattainable either as Inter aren't really a force right now and in a worse situation than us. Him next to a Javi Martinez type player would be my ideal midfield.
He would be as good purchase for us as Coutinho was for Pool.
Would a midfield of him and Carvalho be too risky a move to make in terms of experience?
What type of a midfielder is he? Does he work in a 2 man or 3 man midfield?
Wanted him for so long, but it's really too late now. He would have been a brilliant signing back when our midfield first started to look in need of some fresh blood, but now we need to get a couple of heavyweight additions, he wouldn't make much sense as a target.
I remember reading an article with him a week ago somewhere stating that he loves Inter and plans to stay there a long time...still we should offer them Nani and 20 million for him
Been brilliant tonight, two good assists. Seems Mazzarri's actually let him loose a bit and given him a more free roll than he usually does tonight, either that or Kovacic's given up on what he's normally told to do.
Yea, it would, which is why I can not really see him as a target this summer. However, he could play under a more experienced midfielder like Kroos/Strootman(natural leader despite his age) and be utilized in a sort of similiar manner that Arsene Wenger is developing Jack Wilshere.
Box to box midfielder. He plays very similiar to Jack Wilshere. He can work in a midfield two only if he has a defensive shield alongside him. He is not a complete passenger in regards to his defensive duty, so the midfield two will still be solid if a number #10 plays in front of him.
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He's the one for me. He has my heart.
They've been trying to take a lot of our players, so I think taking one of theirs in return is only fair.
Hes what Anderson was supposed to be.
markovic has ability, but its his intelligence and hard work that sets him aside from other talents in his age group. he might just be more than just a flash in the pan, at least his perfromances this season suggest that.
Kovacic on the other hand also has bags of talent but is not ready for united. we need accomplished, experienced players who would walk into our CM position. not a young player who still hasnt found a regular starting role at inter.
I dont agree with you there. kovacic would be a good signing. but not a better signing than established players like gundogan. kovacic is still finding his feet at inter and simply wont walk into our starting 11. he will need time to get used to english football which is very different from the italian league. we need established players not a young player. im ot saying we shouldnt buy kovacic, im saying he definitely should not be a priority signing (yet).
I would take the risk, such is his potential. I believe if he becomes the player I think he can, he will be a player that our domestic rivals at least will not be able to better pretty much who else they buy. Like hoe we can't just buy a Toure even if we wanted to.
well we did have pogba and he is better than toure was at the same age. so yes it is possible to get a player as good as toure. kovacic is a gifted player but hasnt even played regularly for inter yet. he needs more time as a first team player. again, united need established/world class players in the CM position to compete with city, chelsea and arsenal. mateo kovacic is not that player at the moment. before we start assuming that he will definitely be that player, we need to take a step back and see how well he has done at inter. hes made just 13 starts all seaason long, will you make such a player the lynchpin of your midfield. hes only 20. let him play, let him develop a a bit more before we start assuming he is the real deal.
He's better then coutinho, and the difference he would make for our team would be unmatched in recent history in terms of the Impact one player can make. Inter would be imbeciles to sell him, but like I've been saying, inter certainly have the history, and the idiotic manager in Mazzarrii to be capable of such stupidity.
This is only the type of nonsense someone who hasn't watched kovacic at all would say in my opinion. From day one as an 18 year old from another country, kovacic has shown such an ease and dominance of his role that to question his adaptability seems blatantly ignorant. He was an Amf from dinamo that converted to the holding playmaker under stramaccioni, becoming arguably the most offensively effective DMF in Europe In the latter half of last season, and has even under the extremely unfair circumstances he plays around in inter (inadequate supporting cast, lack of intelligent width, Freddy fecking guarin, and a real cnut of a coach in Mazzarri) completely excelled. Even this season having played sporadically due to Mazzarri's insistence on playing direct, quantifiable quality payers like taddeii and the brain dead guarin, kovacic has simply shined every chance he's got.
How can his youth be a deterrent anyways. How old is Januzaj? What kind of an impact has our adnan made this season? The biggest of all our wingers. Well kovacic has the talent to put Januzaj in the shade, he's just that gifted and I've been saying it all along. Kovacic is a rare rare talent, his technical talent on the ball matches the most prestigious players in the world, but at his young age, he is astonishingly intelligent and composed. He was given the nickname 'Il Professer' by the inter fans just weeks after his arrival at inter, and anyone who's regularly watched this kid fully understands why. He is a playmaker that can dribble like the wind, bursting into spaces and driving the ball, and or thread a 30 yard pass that few would see an opportunity for. He is defensively competent, strong, quick, and his decision making is excellent. I've said this many times, support kovacic properly and he'll even now at 19, perform as one of the best midfielders in Europe.
You don't need to tell me to take a step back, I've followed kovacic since he beginning. This is not form, this is not a fluke, he's been doing this since day one, and I've been saying this for months.
both his assists in gif
i hardly think its nonsense to say that a 20 year old who doesnt start enough games should be our priority signing for the summer or the most important midfield signing as you put it. dont you think what you are saying sounds more like nonsense?
it seems that you are obsessed with an idea that this player is the second coming of zidane and we just need to buy him even before he has established himself in the inter team. say whatever you like about guarin and mazzari, but one has carried inter while they were playing badly while the other has trusted kovacic in a some big games over more experienced players, so i dont know what youre complaining about. no one here is saying that kovacic shouldnt be a target, but to be the main midfield target just sounds foolish and a fan boy like statement. we need to scout him on a regular basis and for his sake he needs more game time. ive watched enough of him to know that hes talented but ive also seen enough of football to know that there are plenty of players, in more competitive leagues, that can walk into our starting lineup and our experienced enough and play week in and week out unlike kovacic. ifyou rate kovacic in this moment of time over gundogan, koke, pogba, vidal then maybe you need to watch other players and not just kovacic.
He is my boyfriend. I love him. Please do it Ed.
Guarin carried inter.. That has to be one of the funniest things I've heard. It's the opposite of the truth really, guarin scores 3/4 long range screamers a season and gets this reputation he doesn't deserve, he's one of the most brain dead players I've seen at the top level. He's got all the qualities to be a superb footballer, the strength, the amazing shooting power, decent enough technical skill, and passing when he chooses to, but he's one of the most immature and stupid players I've ever seen at the pro level. He's like the footballers Andrew Bynum. He looks great on highlights but looks like a complete retard over the course of 90 minutes.
Also, don't question which players i know, especially when I've not brought them up. You don't know how much football I watch and you wouldn't believe me if I told you any ways. I know all of those players thoroughly and remain ardent in my opinion, which hasn't changed one bit.
im not here to know you or how much football you watch. if you watch enough football you would know that guarin at porto and guarin at inter are two different things. he was brlliant at porto under villas boas. they changed his position at inter. and yes he carried inter in many games during last season. maybe you didnt watch those games because it doesnt seem you watch enough football to know that guarin isnt brainless or stupid, just played in the wrong position in a formation that forces him wide and forward. you say you watch enough football to know all the players ive mentioned and still think that kovacic is better option. i say, go watch them again, because you are wrong.
I think Kovacic should be bought before the world cup begins when he should be available on the cheap. He is going to have a cracking world cup. Rakitic-Modric-Kovacic is one formidable midfield for Croatia.
more chance that they will start with modric rakitic and vukojevic rather than kovacic
The midfield I mentioned does seem defensively weaker than the one with vukojevic in it. But there are chances that Rakitic might be played higher leaving a spot for Kovacic.
Guarins decision making at inter has been poor. I've watched enough to not need alternate views on it, he just doesn't have a very high intelligence for picking the right passes at the right moments. He's too selfish as well. He shoots every time he gets the ball from ridiculous spots. Maybe Porto guarin was different, I'm not talking about Porto guarin though, I'm just talking about when you say guarin carried inter... That's the opposite of the truth in my view.
yeah i thought so too..and it wouldnt be a bad idea considering rackitic has been played there before. but my guess would be they would go with rackitic behind mazdukic and eduardo with. perisic modric vuckojevic making up rest of the midfield. lets see what happens. i wont be surprised if they beat brazil. very good team with a solid experienced defense as well
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